Current Trial Russell Hill & Carol Clay - Wonnangatta *Pilot Greg Lynn Pleads Not Guilty to Murder

[Kurve]

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On the Greg Lynn committal proceedings Crown Prosecutor Mr Dickie said 'It is clear hopefully from the document, and if it's not clear from the document it's clear hopefully from the charges put before the court, that it is alleged of course that the accused acted with murderous intent when he allegedly killed the two victims.'

 

[independant witness]

Haven't seen it reported anywhere. Do you have a link?

No, sorry, but it was mentioned quite a lot in court by one of the police experts.

 

[Badd0g]

No, sorry, but it was mentioned quite a lot in court by one of the police experts.

I've followed every day and I've not seen anything about the exact locations of where the fragments were found. I know they report a minute amount of what is actually tabled as evidence, but you'd think that kind of detail would warrant inclusion by the journos

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Never heard of older campers having sleeping bags when sleeping together. They would have had a doona

We have a sleeping bag each, much warmer and more comfortable, if either are restless sleepers. If we fulfill the “older” criterion

 

[Lady O]

We have a sleeping bag each, much warmer and more comfortable, if either are restless sleepers. If we fulfill the “older” criterion

When we camped, quite a few years back, we had two sleeping bags that zipped together and had a double mattress. Not sure Mrs H wouldn't have become a little sus if RH took a mattress for two and I don't think two camp stretchers and one doona would be very comfortable.

 

[independant witness]

When we camped, quite a few years back, we had two sleeping bags that zipped together and had a double mattress. Not sure Mrs H wouldn't have become a little sus if RH took a mattress for two and I don't think two camp stretchers and one doona would be very comfortable.

Hard to know what they may have had due to the secrecy involved. For example the viagra script was found at Carol Clay's house. Perhaps bedding was stored at her house too.

 

[GardenGnome]

In the recording, Mr Lynn referenced his profession, saying as a pilot he was used to making “quick decisions to come to the best outcome”.

If he considers that his actions provided the “best outcome” then holy hell I sure don’t want him in charge of any flight.

 

[GardenGnome]

If Hill had evidence of Lynn breaking a gun related law, that could lead to a criminal conviction, Lynn would lose his ability to hold an ASIC card, and he’d lose his job.

Based on GL’s comments in ROI which give some insight into his warped reality… right there is his motive.

 

[Lady O]

Based on GL’s comments in ROI which give some insight into his warped reality… right there is his motive.

You know, after all the talk about the drone being what led to the deaths of Hill and Clay, I've just realised something isn't right.

In his ROI, he mentioned that when he was returning to camp, he heard the drone buzzing overhead. He said something like, I scratched my head, well not really as I had a hat on. So how would Hill have been able to capture him with enough detail for him to be identified as someone doing the wrong thing, in order to report him to the Police and for Lynn to be worried about it causing him "trouble"? It's pretty difficult to see facial features from directly above.

 

[independant witness]

You know, after all the talk about the drone being what led to the deaths of Hill and Clay, I've just realised something isn't right.

In his ROI, he mentioned that when he was returning to camp, he heard the drone buzzing overhead. He said something like, I scratched my head, well not really as I had a hat on. So how would Hill have been able to capture him with enough detail for him to be identified as someone doing the wrong thing, in order to report him to the Police and for Lynn to be worried about it causing him "trouble"? It's pretty difficult to see facial features from directly above.

Don't quote me, but think he said that Hillpurposely brought the drone down in front of him.

 

[Underarrest_]

In the recording, Mr Lynn referenced his profession, saying as a pilot he was used to making “quick decisions to come to the best outcome”.

If he considers that his actions provided the “best outcome” then holy hell I sure don’t want him in charge of any flight.

You’d be pretty safe, he’d be making sure he landed safely so he could go back to his life.

 

[independant witness]

You know, after all the talk about the drone being what led to the deaths of Hill and Clay, I've just realised something isn't right.

In his ROI, he mentioned that when he was returning to camp, he heard the drone buzzing overhead. He said something like, I scratched my head, well not really as I had a hat on. So how would Hill have been able to capture him with enough detail for him to be identified as someone doing the wrong thing, in order to report him to the Police and for Lynn to be worried about it causing him "trouble"? It's pretty difficult to see facial features from directly abov

I recall Lynn saying that Hill brought the drone down to ground level and then it quickly flew off.

 

[MiguelM]

If Hill had evidence of Lynn breaking a gun related law, that could lead to a criminal conviction, Lynn would lose his ability to hold an ASIC card, and he’d lose his job.

So murder 2 elderly campers wow (Allegedly)

If he is not charged with murder he will probably go for Manslaugher anyway.

Will never fly again IMO.

 

[MiguelM]

You’d be pretty safe, he’d be making sure he landed safely so he could go back to his life.

^^in spades.

Such a victim, woe is me. Doesn't cut it.

 

[nut]

The radio in the Hills vehicle is a is a key IMO..
Was Hill or Clay trying to call for help? Was the car locked? Were they trying to get into the car?

Lynn destroyed the drone because he and his camp would have been on its footage?

He probably kept Hills phone that was linked to the drone to check the footage and delete it, then Destroy the phone.

Lynn was pissed off..he played loud music because he was there first and wanted Hill to leave?
Maybe Hill did go to Lynn’s camp to tell him to turn the music off and they had a fight and Hill did see the gun unsecured .. and grabbed it and was going to radio in to police? Lynn follows… they wrestle over the gun at the car.. break the mirror and Clay gets out of tent and tries to help and is shot.
Shocked they both stop fighting. hill tried to help Clay…. Lynn knows he screwed and Kills Hill.

 

[Kurve]

Do we know where Lynn went to school, where he grew up?

 

[GrayRanga]

It is going to be his inconsistenties that will trip him up.

He's spent months rehearsing his story, polishing every dot and jittle until it shines in his gaze;he's forgotten the mundane things that add backgound (some of which have been highlighted here)

Hearing the rustling with the sound system turned up 11, loading the shotty by Hill, Hill walking in the dark in bare feet under the trees that he hung the antenna over, the dodgy time frames, etc.

The prosecution may be keeping a tally of these inconsistencies and will elaborate on them in great detail in their summing up to undermine the narrative of the ROI to that of a self serving narcissist justifying his actions at the camp and his subsequent actions as well.

This may create reasonable doubt in the jury's mind of the truthfulness of his narrative.

This may out weigh the jury's natural caution to look towards consideration of reasonable doubt of the prosecution's charges.

 

[Eaglette01]

Two 80 year olds in their PJ's !

Barefooted !

No !

GL is toast - he's going down for this horrific, callous, shocking crime and no jury will buy his B-grade fight story.

I'm flat out astounded wife Melanie is still sitting through his police video recording (?).

I'd cut and run - Divorce immediately.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Do we know where Lynn went to school, where he grew up?

Doesn’t matter surely

 

[Kurve]

Doesn’t matter surely

It might help to get a better read on him

 

[revo333]

You’ve been looking for the motive and it’s been on him the whole time.

IMO of course

Ok Greg

 

[revo333]

I'm the same. If anything the case actually supports GLs view.
At a minimum it's involuntary manslaughter for CC but not guilty for RH.
Prosecution needs to.tie the threads together but hasn't been able to

I'll understand if he gets away with double murder but he needs to be punished for what he did to the bodies.

 

[revo333]

True, a wrestle and not to mention then take a knife out of a body.
I’m sure it was unforgettable.

I'm also sure people have said Hill was starting to move very slow thanks to old age.

Just doesn't seem like you'd be too threatened by him coming at you with a knife.

 

[GladdyDee]

Recent podcast by Loose Units - an ex cop and his son about the trial evidence has a few moments, though sometimes a bit sketchy on the details.I think theres a couple of episodes dedicated to it. Some good insights amongst the jocularity.

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[champagnegirl]

I'm also sure people have said Hill was starting to move very slow thanks to old age.

Just doesn't seem like you'd be too threatened by him coming at you with a knife.

If I recall correctly, it was his wife during the court proceedings, who said hubby seemed to be slowing down.

From reported prior recent conversations between Hill and some of the casual meet ups with random weedsprayers, workers etc, while he was in the area, Hill expressed discontent with his home life and said he might as well stay out camping. Perhaps he wasn’t motivated at home whereas once he was out and about, his physical demeanour probably changed along with his energy levels.

He was driving a well set up decent sized rig, he had spent his working life in a very physically demanding environment as a forestry worker clearing trails etc, driving heavy machinery. That sort of work makes very tough and physically hardened individuals. He looked sturdy and capable in all of the photos.

Mid 70’s doesn’t need to herald physical decline if a person keeps their mind and body active and engaged. From looking at his
full length photos, I reckon he was quite robust and not anywhere near a physical slow down.

I doubt though whether he would have been a physical match for the younger Lynn who it seems enjoyed stalking and slaughtering large wild creatures, hauling their lifeless carcasses onto his trailer, transporting them and probably butchering them.

 

[MiguelM]

Lyn shown far more remorse at the fear of losing his "normal life" than the fate of campers.

The fact he continuously takes notes and his actions post deaths with little remorse points to a complete narcissistic personality IMO.