Current Trial Russell Hill & Carol Clay - Wonnangatta *Pilot Greg Lynn Pleads Not Guilty to Murder

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On the Greg Lynn committal proceedings Crown Prosecutor Mr Dickie said 'It is clear hopefully from the document, and if it's not clear from the document it's clear hopefully from the charges put before the court, that it is alleged of course that the accused acted with murderous intent when he allegedly killed the two victims.'

 

[InagoRaida]

Wasn’t Lynn’s son who fainted was it?

No, someone unconnected who was starving like the rest of us..it was a bit stuffy, but the description of the condition of the bodies being spoken by the Prs. at the time was less than pleasant to hear as well...

 

[Angry_Crow]

Spoken to two...a long time mate(in his opinion, will be G on at least one count), and a rando barrister I met getting a coffee this morning. He also believe Prs. has made enough of a convincing case...he also had a fair idea that Mr Dann as counsel would set you back $18-20K / day for such a matter, plus support costs.....he is definitely earning his money..
BTW..very convincing, logical summation by Prs. this morning, with a number of rest breaks for the jury to take it all in, in a very eventful day thus far! A fainting public gallery member, and an errant mobile going off in the public gallery at a very poignant debate about Mr Dann's concerns that the Prs. Is flying very close to the sun regarding the rules (using Dunn& Brown as precedent).
We left for early lunch, with bombshell of Mr Dann taking some time to review the transcript, and intimating he make as a result of that review, make an application to discharge the jury..
This is the case that keeps giving..

What are the chances the fainting individual and the mobile going off (at poignant moment) are plants by defence?!

 

[Angry_Crow]

Spoken to two...a long time mate(in his opinion, will be G on at least one count), and a rando barrister I met getting a coffee this morning. He also believe Prs. has made enough of a convincing case...he also had a fair idea that Mr Dann as counsel would set you back $18-20K / day for such a matter, plus support costs.....he is definitely earning his money..
BTW..very convincing, logical summation by Prs. this morning, with a number of rest breaks for the jury to take it all in, in a very eventful day thus far! A fainting public gallery member, and an errant mobile going off in the public gallery at a very poignant debate about Mr Dann's concerns that the Prs. Is flying very close to the sun regarding the rules (using Dunn& Brown as precedent).
We left for early lunch, with bombshell of Mr Dann taking some time to review the transcript, and intimating he make as a result of that review, make an application to discharge the jury..
This is the case that keeps giving..

Thanks for the update!! Discharge the jury? He’s good, that demolition Dermie.

 

[taz01]

once we hear the prosecution's closing arguments and we then hear from the defence, can the prosecution say anything further or is that it?

 

[InagoRaida]

I’m not sure but it’s a tough gig for his sons.

Maybe, but one in court is making light of whole affair, not much empathy to deceased, and Mrs spoke VERY loudly proclaiming that "anyone coming here withOUT a connection to the trail is just sick!".
Not my peeps

Edit: corecct important typo

 

[InagoRaida]

Thanks for the update!! Discharge the jury? He’s good, that demolition Dermie.

I love that, we are witnessing our own Demo Dermi!

 

[InagoRaida]

once we hear the prosecution's closing arguments and we then hear from the defence, can the prosecution say anything further or is that it?

I dont believe so....only legal procedural disputes (in absence of jury) but @GreyRanga will be a better explainer of that.

 

[Paul Kersey]

I’m not sure but it’s a tough gig for his sons.

Yeah one of them was struggling when I was in there last.

 

[Poppy Penny]

I’m not sure but it’s a tough gig for his sons.

Feel devastated for them. Will certainly shape their lives moving forward and I wish them well.

 

[taz01]

I dont believe so....only legal procedural disputes (in absence of jury) but @GreyRanga will be a better explainer of that.

Thankyou

 

[Lady O]

Spoken to two...a long time mate(in his opinion, will be G on at least one count), and a rando barrister I met getting a coffee this morning. He also believe Prs. has made enough of a convincing case...he also had a fair idea that Mr Dann as counsel would set you back $18-20K / day for such a matter, plus support costs.....he is definitely earning his money..
BTW..very convincing, logical summation by Prs. this morning, with a number of rest breaks for the jury to take it all in, in a very eventful day thus far! A fainting public gallery member, and an errant mobile going off in the public gallery at a very poignant debate about Mr Dann's concerns that the Prs. Is flying very close to the sun regarding the rules (using Dunn& Brown as precedent).
We left for early lunch, with bombshell of Mr Dann taking some time to review the transcript, and intimating he make as a result of that review, make an application to discharge the jury..
This is the case that keeps giving..

"The rule established by Browne v Dunn is that when a witness is giving evidence and you intend to call evidence that contradicts them, you must put the substance of that contradictory evidence to the witness during cross-examination and give them the opportunity to comment on it.


The rule is based on the principle that it is unfair to deny a witness the opportunity of explaining a point that will later be used to invite criticism or disbelief in their evidence. It is also in the interests of justice to put contrary evidence to a witness in order for any possible explanation of the contradiction to be put before the court."

I wonder what evidence this was that he is suggesting the Pros didn't give Lynn an opportunity to comment on?

 

[striker3]

What are the chances the fainting individual and the mobile going off (at poignant moment) are plants by defence?!

Last Monday an old blokes phone went off and he couldn’t switch it to mute so he scurried out of the gallery while tip staff stood to attention.

 

[striker3]

Yeah one of them was struggling when I was in there last.

Last week his son was sobbing, hands in head while the ROI was being played.

 

[Paul Kersey]

Last week his son was sobbing, hands in head while the ROI was being played.

Yep I saw that.

 

[Pamcake1]

Jurors urged to reject accused murderer Greg Lynn’s account of camper deaths as 'elaborate fiction'

Prosecuting lawyers are making their final arguments in the murder trial of former Jetstar pilot Greg Lynn, who is charged with the murder of Carol Clay and Russell Hill.

www.abc.net.au

 

[MrsBlueSky]

Mr Dann's concerns that the Prs. Is flying very close to the sun regarding the rules (using Dunn& Brown as precedent).
We left for early lunch, with bombshell of Mr Dann taking some time to review the transcript, and intimating he make as a result of that review, make an application to discharge the jury..

That's reminiscent of someone bullying or threatening, especially if the prosecution hasn't finished their summation.
It's like saying if you say that again I'll sue you for defamation.
I don't think the prosecution has to clutch at straws or exaggerate.
I hope the prosecution returns the favour accuses Dann of doing the same thing when he gets up to talk.
If you didn't pick up on anything outlandish then I highly doubt the jury would be discharged.
Good work from you...it's better than trying to read non-existent news reports.

 

[FrankGrimes]

Spoken to two...a long time mate(in his opinion, will be G on at least one count), and a rando barrister I met getting a coffee this morning. He also believe Prs. has made enough of a convincing case...he also had a fair idea that Mr Dann as counsel would set you back $18-20K / day for such a matter, plus support costs.....he is definitely earning his money..
BTW..very convincing, logical summation by Prs. this morning, with a number of rest breaks for the jury to take it all in, in a very eventful day thus far! A fainting public gallery member, and an errant mobile going off in the public gallery at a very poignant debate about Mr Dann's concerns that the Prs. Is flying very close to the sun regarding the rules (using Dunn& Brown as precedent).
We left for early lunch, with bombshell of Mr Dann taking some time to review the transcript, and intimating he make as a result of that review, make an application to discharge the jury..
This is the case that keeps giving..

Wow discharge the Jury would be massive...
Reading the paper seems the PRs. summed up quite well..

 

[Lady O]

Haha- yeah I was there for that.

You guys will have to get a secret sign so you can identify each other!

 

[Kurve]

This is why he told the cops there was nothing left, because he thought he'd done such a good job of it.

Despite Lynn leading police to the Union Spur Track site, the Crown said Lynn had continued to conceal the remains and failed to tell police that when he moved the ash and bone fragments with a dustpan, he placed most of them at the base of a fallen tree.

Lynn answered 1200 police questions, told no lies: defence

The prosecutor has asked the jury to reject as “fiction” accused killer Gregory Lynn’s claim the deaths were accidental.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Pamcake1]

I love that, we are witnessing our own Demo Dermi!

IMO
Obviously DD trying to get an end to it via a point of law at every turn, as the Prs has dismantled the confession as being a fiction.
It will be very interesting tomorrow with DD's response in explaining away the guy rope and the other iffy bits of the 'confession'.
I wonder whether DD will even go there, as by combatting the effect of the Prs pointing to these anomalies would in fact yet again be underlining them. Tricky!
I expect for DD to lay on an extra thick coating of the 'misguided panic merchant, oh woe is he' emphasis.

 

[MiguelM]

I reckon Lynn is cooked and Defence knows it.

Just distraction tactics by defence re Jury. Would have to be a very good reason to discharge.

 

[independant witness]

Getting stuck into the summation of prs.. bumbling, ridiculous & thinks he is clousea.

 

[LeChatNoir]

Found GL’s quote from his testimony that I was referring to - "I don't know if he intended to shoot me or not. Probably not. I think he was trying to keep the shotgun for himself and scare me off."

Not the first time Lynn's changed the details of his story, IMO

 

[ken]

So clearly put.....Prosecution repeating what you said almost verbatim.

Thank heavens for that!

 

[thumbs_up]

The most interesting question now is how long it will take the jury to come to their decision?