Certified Legendary Thread Sack Hinkley 13 - Another Crack At This (Stepping down end of 2025)

[Addy23]

Quite amazing Ralph has framed it that way.

Houston first approached Ken before anyone else about wanting to go home (said approach happened mid last year). And Ken, thinking he controls everything, essentially promised Houston that he would be traded at the end of the season.

If Ken had kept his mouth shut and simply referred Dan to the list management team to discuss, Port would have had far more bargaining power at the trade table.

Ken didn't open his mouth out of selflessness - he did it out of stupidity and ignorance.

This is also what I heard and it makes me very nervous regarding Bergman and Butters for the same reason.

This guy would genuinely blow up this list before he left so that later it looks like his tenure was actually better than people gave credit for. He's extremely good at controlling the narrative around him regardless of how bad it is.

 

[Chewy316]

This is also what I heard and it makes me very nervous regarding Bergman and Butters for the same reason.

This guy would genuinely blow up this list before he left so that later it looks like his tenure was actually better than people gave credit for. He's extremely good at controlling the narrative around him regardless of how bad it is.

Well the big difference now is that Ken has an official end date, and all list management decisions going forward are being run through Cripps, CD and Carr.

 

[Bump Bailey]

Quite amazing Ralph has framed it that way.

Houston first approached Ken before anyone else about wanting to go home (said approach happened mid last year). And Ken, thinking he controls everything, essentially promised Houston that he would be traded at the end of the season.

If Ken had kept his mouth shut and simply referred Dan to the list management team to discuss, Port would have had far more bargaining power at the trade table.

Ken didn't open his mouth out of selflessness - he did it out of stupidity and ignorance.

Just proving what many feared - within the Port Adelaide Football Club, there is a splinter faction called the Ken Hinkley Football Club.

Horrifying that this has been allowed to happen.

 

[tribey]

Well the big difference now is that Ken has an official end date, and all list management decisions going forward are being run through Cripps, CD and Carr.

That at least explains why we didn’t even try to pull a Carlton with Gibbs, who put their foot down over a vastly inferior player, held firm, and made the Crows come back 12 months later with 2 first rounders.

 

[RangaInTeal]

What benefits do these media people get for sucking up to Ken?

A hot tip at Dapto from time to time…

 

[Chewy316]

That at least explains why we didn’t even try to pull a Carlton with Gibbs, who put their foot down over a vastly inferior player, held firm, and made the Crows come back 12 months later with 2 first rounders.

It's also clear the list management team viewed the package they got for Houston as a better overall package than what they could have gotten if they delayed it by a year, specifically in terms of the value of future picks because of the nature of these upcoming drafts (severely compromised due to F/S, NGA and Tassie).

I'm sure this trade will be talked about for the next 5 years but I really don't think it's going to be the difference either way in terms of the fortunes of Collingwood or Port during that period.

 

[Addy23]

It's also clear the list management team viewed the package they got for Houston as a better overall package than what they could have gotten if they delayed it by a year, specifically in terms of the value of future picks because of the nature of these upcoming drafts (severely compromised due to F/S, NGA and Tassie).

I'm sure this trade will be talked about for the next 5 years but I really don't think it's going to be the difference either way in terms of the fortunes of Collingwood or Port during that period.

My only disappointment with this deal was that we gave up a future first. That, this year, is a genuine chance of being a top 10 pick, top 12 at the very least. The whole thing about this draft being compromised is strange because there's still 10-20 prospects in this pool that are open and would suit our needs. To give the future first away cheaply and take on Atkins is an absolute embarrassment.

Collingwood have a clear plan and arent in denial that their future is in jeopardy with the age of list. They are also a Victorian powerhouse that can always land targets. They are all chips in to win it this year.

We have been in denial for a decade about who we realistically are and there is currently no plan or direction. Are we moving towards a premiership? Are we rebuilding on the run? Are we changing our gameplan next year? And if so, how long do we expect that to take before we become genuine contenders again? This club has had more questions than answers in the past decade.

 

[PowerLil]

184 days to go.

 

[philreich]

Did he actually admit that publicly? I don't recall him doing it, was a few years back now though.

To think the Prelim humiliation and Russell Ebert game disgrace came within three (competitive) games of each other, yet the club and players seemed to bristle at the criticism as if it was unjustified and over the top. **** me.

"What are you worried about - we still made finals, so we had a successful year. Geez you Port fans are negative nancies."

 

[Us against the rest]

Such a wasted season, I wish it was over already so we can see what Carr has.

 

[Rozee2Butters]

Would love to see Ken coach a big Vic club and just observe how radically different the media treat him then

 

[philreich]

We need to step up

Definitely premature. Voss hasn't been with Carlton for anywhere near 13 years - he's got at least 8 years to go yet .

 

[Us against the rest]

Definitely premature. Voss hasn't been with Carlton for anywhere near 13 years - he's got at least 8 years to go yet .

Wow those Carlton fans must be fickle white noise supporters, unappreciative mob. They need to treat Voss with respect, he can't kick it for them.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

For me the most selfless thing Ken has ever done was the plane dance after the Hawks game last year. He would have known at that stage he would be handing over to Josh Carr, yet he wanted to make sure Port Adelaide would remember to soar after he leaves. He also selflessly coached like shit the week after to let Josh be able to savour the taste of breaking our grand final drought. What a man.

 

[RonnieRaven]

What benefits do these media people get for sucking up to Ken?

No late night stalker phone calls from Kenny

 

[Bump Bailey]

For me the most selfless thing Ken has ever done was the plane dance after the Hawks game last year. He would have known at that stage he would be handing over to Josh Carr, yet he wanted to make sure Port Adelaide would remember to soar after he leaves. He also selflessly coached like shit the week after to let Josh be able to savour the taste of breaking our grand final drought. What a man.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

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Still makes more sense than the average post-match Kenny presser

 

[philreich]

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George W. Bush also said, "If we fail to succeed, we run the risk of failure." Maybe he was thinking of Hinkley when he said it .

 

[EskimoPAFC]

"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again!"

Meanwhile at Port Adelaide where we get fooled 13 times in a row...

 

[simba_]

did that sack voss graffiti even get a single mention on any media channel??

 

[Scholz Supremacy]

lol, but he’s not Kenny Hinkley

 

[simba_]

zak is taking the piss

 

[Doctor Feel]

100 CONSEVEHREHTY

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Omg so father figure is officially a running joke at the club? Thats actually pretty funny lol

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Ill bet they all just say it to troll us