He wouldn't get away with it if he was coaching in Victoria.
Opinion Sack Hinkley 4 - Show Him The Door
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So what would you prefer instead.
We continue on as an AFL controlled club?
Genuinely curious.
You are dead right, I posted a few days ago about this.
If the "10%" want to be heard we nead to post our grievances on bigger social media platforms like FB. I don't do FB myself but i'm sure many others do.
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They can think whatever they like, the facts speak for themselves.
11 of the other 17 teams have made grand finals since Ken Hinkley was hired. Next year is the 10th year of his reign and as has been well recounted he is about to pass a historical marker at which point unsuccessful coaches are discarded. The facts behind his failure are becoming overwhelming.
The wolves are not at the door yet but they're on the way. If we were a Melbourne club, the media would've been on his back in about 2016. Because we're so irrelevant, we have to wait for the blowtorch. But it will come. Soon.
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Didn't the club hold a focus group (or 2?) with many members of this platform. I'd imagine that they are well aware of the feeling around many of the more "core" supporters of the club.
It's either the case where they think most of the people here are complete idiots and Hinkley is "on the path" or they are completely content with aggravating the diehards because they know that most people here will buy their memberships anyway. My money would be on the latter.
They are fighting for the casual supporter dollar and they know if they stick with Hinkley who for the most part gives you a stable club that makes finals and "challenges" then the casual supporter will be satisfied.
It's either the case where they think most of the people here are complete idiots and Hinkley is "on the path" or they are completely content with aggravating the diehards because they know that most people here will buy their memberships anyway. My money would be on the latter.
They are fighting for the casual supporter dollar and they know if they stick with Hinkley who for the most part gives you a stable club that makes finals and "challenges" then the casual supporter will be satisfied.
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Oh, I don’t disagree as you know. I’m just saying, you can at least see the pathway of their delusion that the vast majority of people are on board with Uncle Ken as he rides his gopher into the abyss. They’d believe it.
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I think the worm has absolutely turned on the general Port community being pro Hinkley.
I've certainly started engaging harder with Facebook boomer happyclappers since the prelim to make them defend their arguments, purely because I don't want the club to be able to argue he's popular.
The imminent breaking of the most games coached at 1 club without a GF record can't really be explained away. He's historically mediocre. That prelim loss was also record breaking.
I've certainly started engaging harder with Facebook boomer happyclappers since the prelim to make them defend their arguments, purely because I don't want the club to be able to argue he's popular.
The imminent breaking of the most games coached at 1 club without a GF record can't really be explained away. He's historically mediocre. That prelim loss was also record breaking.
They are counting on the natural attrition of the die hards that have expectations of winning a premiership, they have plenty of happy clappers to replace us and they know it.
When I emailed Richo expressing my views, he was quick to say I will make sure that your membership doesn't get renewed for the 2022 season, after asking membership to take it off auto renewal. He never tried to convince me otherwise.
I think they do their number crunching and feel confident that for every lost membership there will be a new happy clapper come on board, so this is why I think they don't seem to listen to us.
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What the best teams in the comp have is a few players who have the size, speed and strength to win the contested ball 1 on 1 and then burst through stoppages with ball in hand to win the clearance. Melbourne have Oliver and Petracca who can do that. The Dogs have Bont, Treloar and Smith. When Geelong were more of a threat a few years ago Selwood and Danger were the problem. Richmond had Cotchin and Dusty.
If you then look at the supporting midfield groups, Melbourne have Viney and Brayshaw. The Dogs have Macrae and Libba. Geelong had Guthrie and Duncan. Richmond had Prestia and Edwards.
You contrast that to our midfield of Wines and Boak, then zilch. I like Drew but he doesn't get anywhere near enough of the footy for a guy who is meant to be the 3rd on-baller. Robbie Gray's peak has well and truly come and gone. Has his moments but can't be relied on as a midfield regular. The club seemed to give up on SPP as a mid and have him playing across half forward. Amon is an elite winger who can pinch hit but you never want him regularly in the guts of it.
To me it's clear that we lack a 3rd A-grade on-baller to pair with Wines and Boak. I love Boak but his disposal is average at best, and he wouldn't hold a candle to most of the dominant A-grade mids in the other top sides. He'd be an ideal 3rd on-baller imo.
Our other midfield problem stems from Hinkley's stubbornness tactically. Always defensive minded, going as far back as 2017 Hinkley has preferred to allow the opposition to have a +1 at the stoppage with our +1 sitting behind the ball. Against shit teams with weaker mids, our A-graders can still work harder for longer (the Hinkley special) to ensure we can play our game of front half footy. But against the top midfields of the competition, leaving a +1 at the stoppage consistently leads to our midfield getting overrun.
We have the best intercept defender in the league in AA, so we shouldn't need a +1 defensively. We should be able to scheme up a defense that allows us to have the +1 at the stoppage whilst maintaining defensive integrity and allowing AA to be the all important intercept sweeper across half back.
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I wouldn't take what Richo says in his email replies as gospel. After my strongly worded letter to him a week and a half ago, he replied by saying he would cancel my membership as per request - yet no where in the e-mail I sent him spoke of any request to cancel my membership.
When I followed up by telling him I didn't believe he actually read my e-mail in full, he apologised and said he was overwhelmed with the amount of emails he had received at the club and asked for my understanding.
I'm all for having a line of communication open with supporters and the CEO. I actually think it is one of the things that is really good about our club. However, if you're going to get such a piss weak response that is beyond generic, the club would actually be better off signing it as being sent by the CEO's secretary.
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They will rue the day they turn their backs on the die hards.
Come the inevitable down turn and the happy clappers will find somewhere else to spend their filthy lucre and there will be no one to take their place.
The die hards that stuck fat and sat with the tarps in the dark years, to be called white noise Ken haters is disgusting on any count.
This shows the level of care that our president has for it's core group of supporters, yes the same supporters that will be there when Hinkley is gone and the happy clappers lose all the pre game bullshit that they attend for.
This shows the level of care that our president has for it's core group of supporters, yes the same supporters that will be there when Hinkley is gone and the happy clappers lose all the pre game bullshit that they attend for.
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Head over and have a look at the port reddit.
I just went and had a look and lots of sack hinkley comments and blaming the failure on ken/voss.
Honestly the prelim I think is the straw thats broken the camels back for lots of people. Even I who was ok with Ken having 2021 as his absolute final chance of a flag have clearly seen he just isnt up to it now.
Yeah my reply was similar, I asked to be taken off auto renewal, he said he will make sure it is cancelled for the 2022 season.
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The day on which Hinkley passes Brad Scott’s record for VFL/AFL coaching infamy can be calculated.
Not by me, I am too prejudiced, too old and too lazy. But it’s 275 days, give or take.
Mods - could we install a countdown meter that recurs at the top of each page of this thread … designed to catch the eye and stir into prose or comment every media wallah who dares to visit ?
Kane still talking highly of Ken
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Not a fan of Kane Korner but imagine being questioned about your job performance by this hick.
Heading into the 2022 season, there are only 5 players who were on our list in 2013 when Ken first arrived:
1 - Jonas (turns 31 in January 2022)
2 - Boak (32)
3 - Gray (turns 34 in March 2022)
4 - Clurey (drafted 2013)
5 - Wines (drafted 2013)
Ken has turned over all other players. He has had 9 years to build a list and yet in his post-prelim presser he still talks about having a “young team”. We still talk about lacking midfield depth.
Chances are, by the end of 2022 only Wines will remain. Boak maybe.
How can he just keep going on without an ounce of scrutiny from the club?
This is a joke
1 - Jonas (turns 31 in January 2022)
2 - Boak (32)
3 - Gray (turns 34 in March 2022)
4 - Clurey (drafted 2013)
5 - Wines (drafted 2013)
Ken has turned over all other players. He has had 9 years to build a list and yet in his post-prelim presser he still talks about having a “young team”. We still talk about lacking midfield depth.
Chances are, by the end of 2022 only Wines will remain. Boak maybe.
How can he just keep going on without an ounce of scrutiny from the club?
This is a joke
To add to this, our team has lost the same big games in the same manner over the past 9 years notwithstanding the turnover of players. Notwithstanding the turnover of assistant coaches, board members and the CEO.
What has been the 1 constant over the past 9 years?
“What’s he supposed to do, kick the ball for them?!”
Can you please edit to When Ken gets sacked. Even though it's doubtful it still feels better to read.
Im doubtful that he ever will, 12mil in debt so no way the AFL let us sack him even if Koch was smart enough to realise the guys is a no hoper.
Reality is he's is probably here until at least mid 2023. We could miss finals and we will be told its an aberration and we'd made prelims the last 2 years and that we need to back Ken in.
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