Saints will win the GF because they can win Finals

[oak79]

2004: Played 3, won 1, lost 2
2003: played 0
2002: played 0
2001: played 0
2000: played 0
1999: played 0

Saints are no more proven come finals times than then any contender.

Does that mean they cant win? No, they can still win - but so can other finals teams.

 

[Wildman]

Alrighty then.

 

[Truetiger]

Stkilda will not make a Grand final while Grant Thomas is there coach!

 

[arrowman]

2004: Played 3, won 1, lost 2
2003: played 0
2002: played 0
2001: played 0
2000: played 0
1999: played 0

Saints are no more proven come finals times than then any contender.

Does that mean they cant win? No, they can still win - but so can other finals teams.

Hmmm.. another WCE vs Saints thread. Cool.

While we're stirring the pot, I'd just like to point out that when it comes to finals epxerience (in the current team) - we win

 

[nicky]

2004: Played 3, won 1, lost 2
2003: played 0
2002: played 0
2001: played 0
2000: played 0
1999: played 0

Saints are no more proven come finals times than then any contender.

Does that mean they cant win? No, they can still win - but so can other finals teams.

and the more you say it the truer it becomes

 

[fearlessone77]

Thankyou for significantly reducing the collective intelligence of planet earth by opening your mouth.

 

[oak79]

and the more you say it the truer it becomes

Just trying to understand they whole "saints can win finals, so they gonna win the grand final" mentallity.

WC, Adelaide, Sydney & Saints are all possible winners, but WC/ Adelaide shoud be equal flag favourites because of home finals. Not an unproven St Kilda. Winning on the G is only 1/2 the job (which the Saints do have a huge advantage) - you have to get there first.

 

[MarkT]

Alternatively, a lack of final experience last year was a factor in a 1 from 3 record and now they have experienced winning and losing finals they are better placed. Personally I reckon the best team wins most finals and whether or not St. Kilda are the best team depends more on how many of their best 22 they fit than it does on any other factor or any other team.

 

[nicky]

Just trying to understand they whole "saints can win finals, so they gonna win the grand final" mentallity.

WC, Adelaide, Sydney & Saints are all possible winners, but WC/ Adelaide shoud be equal flag favourites because of home finals. Not an unproven St Kilda. Winning on the G is only 1/2 the job (which the Saints do have a huge advantage) - you have to get there first.

does being the favourite to win increase your chances? no it doesn't... it cracks me up that some crow and wce supporters (on BF) think by attacking st kilda's credibility in a stupid forum it is going to somehow increase their chances in september... and another thing who gives a ***** about other peoples opinions anyway - how does it enhance your teams performance???

 

[Pav for AA]

Thankyou for significantly reducing the collective intelligence of planet earth by opening your mouth.

Tankyou also, not only did you open you mouth but you go for carlton, so tankyou, tankyou very much

 

[fryingpan]

Hmmm.. another WCE vs Saints thread. Cool.

While we're stirring the pot, I'd just like to point out that when it comes to finals epxerience (in the current team) - we win

Haha isn't it funny? 2nd on the ladder and still somehow flying under the radar. I don't think people realise, Edwards, Roo, Goodwin, Welsh, Hart and McLeod (2 time Norm Smith Medallist I might add) have all played in finals and some in a Grand Final. WCE have Banfield.. thats it. Saints have a few of course but no real Grand Final experience. Still we receive no respect. Doesn't exactly disadvantage the team I don't think because the look on everyones face if Crows win the premiership would be absolutely priceless.

 

[Kid A]

Just trying to understand they whole "saints can win finals, so they gonna win the grand final" mentallity.

WC, Adelaide, Sydney & Saints are all possible winners, but WC/ Adelaide shoud be equal flag favourites because of home finals. Not an unproven St Kilda. Winning on the G is only 1/2 the job (which the Saints do have a huge advantage) - you have to get there first.

Don't worry about the idiot punters--just back your team at the long odds they're at. WCE are 3.10 at most agencies and those are VERY VERY good odds. Put some money on them. I would, and I'm not even an Eagles supporter!

 

[oak79]

does being the favourite to win increase your chances? no it doesn't... it cracks me up that some crow and wce supporters (on BF) think by attacking st kilda's credibility in a stupid forum it is going to somehow increase their chances in september... and another thing who gives a ***** about other peoples opinions anyway - how does it enhance your teams performance???

Thats what a forum is - just a bunch of opinions.

No-ones opinions increases anyones chances of winning.

 

[arrowman]

does being the favourite to win increase your chances? no it doesn't... it cracks me up that some crow and wce supporters (on BF) think by attacking st kilda's credibility in a stupid forum it is going to somehow increase their chances in september...

Yep, that's right, we're arguing the point because we believe that if we can win an internet debate our team will win in the finals and not because we're just footy fans who enjoy a good footy debate.

and another thing who gives a ***** about other peoples opinions anyway - how does it enhance your teams performance???

Whereas you, of course, have never expressed an opinion on BigFooty, or voiced disagreement with anyone else's opinion. Why are you here again?

 

[The Schammerman #3]

Haha isn't it funny? 2nd on the ladder and still somehow flying under the radar. I don't think people realise, Edwards, Roo, Goodwin, Welsh, Hart and McLeod (2 time Norm Smith Medallist I might add) have all played in finals and some in a Grand Final. WCE have Banfield.. thats it. Saints have a few of course but no real Grand Final experience. Still we receive no respect. Doesn't exactly disadvantage the team I don't think because the look on everyones face if Crows win the premiership would be absolutely priceless.

Its because St.Kilda,Swans and the Coasters have a much better team than adelaide's.

 

[oak79]

Haha isn't it funny? 2nd on the ladder and still somehow flying under the radar. I don't think people realise, Edwards, Roo, Goodwin, Welsh, Hart and McLeod (2 time Norm Smith Medallist I might add) have all played in finals and some in a Grand Final. WCE have Banfield.. thats it. Saints have a few of course but no real Grand Final experience. Still we receive no respect. Doesn't exactly disadvantage the team I don't think because the look on everyones face if Crows win the premiership would be absolutely priceless.

Exactly my points - I rate the Crows as a much better chance this year than the Saints because of there home finals...

I still think the Saints are a great side, but premiership favourites? Based on What? The fact that they come from Victoria ..?

 

[fearlessone77]

Tankyou also, not only did you open you mouth but you go for carlton, so tankyou, tankyou very much

A fremantle supporter having a go at another club. I think I have now officially seen it all.

 

[mob]

Haha isn't it funny? 2nd on the ladder and still somehow flying under the radar. I don't think people realise, Edwards, Roo, Goodwin, Welsh, Hart and McLeod (2 time Norm Smith Medallist I might add) have all played in finals and some in a Grand Final. WCE have Banfield.. thats it. Saints have a few of course but no real Grand Final experience. Still we receive no respect. Doesn't exactly disadvantage the team I don't think because the look on everyones face if Crows win the premiership would be absolutely priceless.

As usual, uninformed and miopic view from you.

Try Jones, Pickett, Thompson, Hamill off the top of my head.

You don't get any respect being a one eyed kn0b

 

[Portia]

Bookmark this: St Kilda will not finish higher on the ladder after finals, than they were on the ladder before finals.

 

[fryingpan]

Its because St.Kilda,Swans and the Coasters have a much better team than adelaide's.

My point is proven.

 

[m.diddy]

BWHAHAHAHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

West Coast supporters are ******** scared.

 

[MarkT]

My point is proven.

Not yet it isn't.

 

[fryingpan]

As usual, uninformed and miopic view from you.

Try Jones, Pickett, Thompson, Hamill off the top of my head.

You don't get any respect being a one eyed kn0b

You have played in 1 Grand Final in 40 odd years or whatever it is. Yes Jones, Peckett, Thompson have played in 1 Losing Grand Final, the Crows have played in 2 Winning Grand Finals. The thing is we actually don't get respect. It is easy for you to say all this because you live in Victoria and your team gets all the attention because of their "superstar" and overrated lineup.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

I've said it before, but I'll say it again.

St. Kilda's biggest challenge will be winning at AAMI or Subiaco (or the SCG). They won't make the GF if they can't do that, so the line that St. Kilda will smash everyone at the MCG on GF Day is entirely short-sighted.

Since R1 2003, St. Kilda is 2-10 at AAMI, GABBA, SCG and Subiaco. I haven't included York Park as that is a neutral venue.

In those 10 losses, St. Kilda's average losing margin has been 44.5 points.

In those 12 road-trips, St. Kilda has managed to kicked 16 goals only once. That was against Adelaide in R4 last year when they knocked off the Crows, who were a rabble.

These are not the numbers of a side that has played well on the road, and confidence in the Saints' flag credentials completely overlooks this worrying trend.

 

[fryingpan]

Exactly my points - I rate the Crows as a much better chance this year than the Saints because of there home finals...

I still think the Saints are a great side, but premiership favourites? Based on What? The fact that they come from Victoria ..?

Yeah I don't know how they are premiership favourites. Obviously just basing it on their recent form (in Victoria mind you) They haven't played outside Victoria and won this year (apart from a boring 1 point come-from-behind low-scoring victory over a hapless Dockers) It is obviously not based on how well the team performs consistently throughout a whole season, because then the Eagles and Crows would easily take the cake, closely followed by the Swans.