Recommitted Shai Bolton [Re-signed to 2023]

[THE_GUN]

RCD and CCJ is not that impressive compare to Graham , Baker , short , broad . This range Richmond not really good at it .

We also have drafted
Dow , Balta and even Bolton at #29
Im extremely excited about both CJ & RCD i think we have done pretty well in that range

In this years draft i would rather have 3 x late 1st rounders than pick 3-6
think its going to be some really really nice players between 10-30/35 this year and we have 4 picks in this range

 

[Prochard123]

This bloke is actually one of the most impressive and influential center bounce midfielders in the comp.

Able to rack up clearances despite playing forward (where he is equally dangerous) for large portions of the game.

Biggest point of difference is that, not dissimilar to Tim Kelly, his clearances are actually meaningful with his run and carry. The ball is usually delivered deep forward as well, and is converted into scoring opportunities frequently. I think he is definitely a top 20 midfielder in the comp if not borderline top 10 in effectivity.

 

[THE_GUN]

The beauty about Shai Bolton is
He can do it on the inside
He can do it on the outside
He can do it on the ground
He can do it in the air

and still just 22 years old , what he going to be like at 24-30 years of age
if he was 7/8cm taller prople would be talking about him in the Dusty/Bont/Danger conversations


He is a beauty

 

[fnerd]

Thats the reason why i really dont want to trade our picks
VanRooyen , Williams,Bazzo,Erasmus,Long all fall into the range of our top 3 picks and we could have a draft period like Port did with Rozee/butters/Duursma
these types of drafting set you up for a decade

Van rooyans a massive freo fan ,already with one of his best mates at the club(western)
says it would be a dream come true to play for the team he’s grown up supporting , so would be very risky drafting by the tiges if they do pick him.
Could well see him come back home after his first contract and the tiggies having to accept unders in return

 

[THE_GUN]

Van rooyans a massive freo fan ,already with one of his best mates at the club(western)
says it would be a dream come true to play for the team he’s grown up supporting , so would be very risky drafting by the tiges if they do pick him.
Could well see him come back home after his first contract and the tiggies having to accept unders in return

Then freo should draft him with the 1st pick they have but more likely will go for a Mid

You do know that Nat Fyfe was a mad Tigers supporter and called the club to ask them to draft them and slept with Richo poster above his bed
Cotch was Geelong / Lids was Carlton and Lynch the entire family are Pie supporters.


Ohh and Cerra Richmond apparently
looking like we are going to have the pick required for JVR

 

[juss]

Van rooyans a massive freo fan ,already with one of his best mates at the club(western)
says it would be a dream come true to play for the team he’s grown up supporting , so would be very risky drafting by the tiges if they do pick him.
Could well see him come back home after his first contract and the tiggies having to accept unders in return

A lot of under-age players feel like that, a lot changes once they get drafted. Not saying he will/won't, but that sort of sentiment isn't uncommon for a lot of teens growing up as elite juniors.

Fyfe was no different as a huge Tigers fan, where is he now?

 

[fnerd]

A lot of under-age players feel like that, a lot changes once they get drafted. Not saying he will/won't, but that sort of sentiment isn't uncommon for a lot of teens growing up as elite juniors.

Fyfe was no different as a huge Tigers fan, where is he now?

Fyfes not from Victoria tho so once he stayed in his home state that was it
Big difference

 

[juss]

Fyfes not from Victoria tho so once he stayed in his home state that was it
Big difference

Yes fair point, but it still wouldn't be uncommon.

 

[nurries]

I would prefer to keep Cerra, he is consistent, averages about 23d per game this year , outside of the game he was injured and still plays ok when the team doesn’t. Bolton is the icing on the cake, last night showed when the cake isn’t there, no icing.

 

[tiger_tough]

I would prefer to keep Cerra, he is consistent, averages about 23d per game this year , outside of the game he was injured and still plays ok when the team doesn’t. Bolton is the icing on the cake, last night showed when the cake isn’t there, no icing.

Thats rubbish. The whole team played like shit. He's stepped up plenty of times when we're off. Most recently against Essendon when we needed something

 

[H00t]

I think the best comparison for Shai as a player is Wingard as a midfielder. Freakish talent able to move through traffic, great kick. They always seem to be able to get out of trouble.

I feel Shai’s forward craft is a couple of rungs below Wingards though. Which is no shame as wingard 2013-2016 work as an offensive small forward is as good as you will ever see.

Wingard’s first 4 years are significantly better than Shai’s career up to this point. Though Shai is building his career very nicely the last year. Though wings has stagnated while Shai might push through to have the better career.

I feel Shai might have similar struggles to Wingard in a lesser team where he is unable to show his talent fully. Like Wingard plays better in an all out attack game plan where he is able to use his speed and sidestep to find space.

 

[THE_GUN]

I would prefer to keep Cerra, he is consistent, averages about 23d per game this year , outside of the game he was injured and still plays ok when the team doesn’t. Bolton is the icing on the cake, last night showed when the cake isn’t there, no icing.

LOL last night showed what the entire team was cooked

Watching the Freo / Pies game at the moment and Cerra has 9 kicks 8 handballs 1 tackle
the game in the balance and he has had just 1 kick in nearly a quarter and unsighted.
Bolton has shown how good he is in losing sides this year and you take the worst game of the year to point as an example

not stock market shares mate where they go up and down every game

 

[nurries]

LOL last night showed what the entire team was cooked

Watching the Freo / Pies game at the moment and Cerra has 9 kicks 8 handballs 1 tackle
the game in the balance and he has had just 1 kick in nearly a quarter and unsighted.
Bolton has shown how good he is in losing sides this year and you take the worst game of the year to point as an example

not stock market shares mate where they go up and down every game

Bolton is not worth Cez plus pick 8.

 

[THE_GUN]

Bolton is not worth Cez plus pick 8.

Have not seen 'Cez' tear dominate a game he is always that 'nice player ' that gets the ball going
he is not a game changer . Bolton is on another level to Cerra

In todays game Goal kicking mids that can play multiple positions is what wins games
69 games 13 goals compared to Bolton 59 games 49 goals

2021 Both Cerra & Bolton averages are almost identical but Cerra averaging 0.2 goals a game and Bolton 1.2 goals a game

i dont think you will find many neutral that would rather cerra to bolton


But im not the one that mentioned that value it was the freo mod

 

[WilloTree]

The beauty about Shai Bolton is
He can do it on the inside
He can do it on the outside
He can do it on the ground
He can do it in the air

and still just 22 years old , what he going to be like at 24-30 years of age
if he was 7/8cm taller prople would be talking about him in the Dusty/Bont/Danger conversations


He is a beauty

He doesn't tackle
He doesn't defend
His player is free

Horrid game yesterday.

He'd Des Hedland 2.0. There's a reason West Coast walked a mile out of his way.

More at 6

 

[The 747]

LOL last night showed what the entire team was cooked

Watching the Freo / Pies game at the moment and Cerra has 9 kicks 8 handballs 1 tackle
the game in the balance and he has had just 1 kick in nearly a quarter and unsighted.
Bolton has shown how good he is in losing sides this year and you take the worst game of the year to point as an example

not stock market shares mate where they go up and down every game

Most recent game was poor, on BF that means a 3rd round pick*

*Value may change next week

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Most recent game was poor, on BF that means a 3rd round pick*

*Value may change next week

He is a funny one though because his value has probably nearly doubled from the beginning of the year so it would be interesting to see if he does have a run of bad games.

 

[THE_GUN]

Buy low
Sell high

 

[Prochard123]

Really funny game on Friday...

Richmond looked to be on top in the midfield whenever Bolton plays there, and gets absolutely destroyed when Bolton is up forward/on the bench.

Yet for some reason the coach refused to play Bolton in the midfield until the 3rd quarter... Bolton is twice the player as Prestia/Cotchin/Edwards

 

[Toadvine]

Really funny game on Friday...

Richmond looked to be on top in the midfield whenever Bolton plays there, and gets absolutely destroyed when Bolton is up forward/on the bench.

Yet for some reason the coach refused to play Bolton in the midfield until the 3rd quarter... Bolton is twice the player as Prestia/Cotchin/Edwards

Bolton played less than 70% game time on Friday compared to 90% against the Eagles. He might have got injured at some point and then had to be managed to get through the game.

 

[Prochard123]

Bolton played less than 70% game time on Friday compared to 90% against the Eagles. He might have got injured at some point and then had to be managed to get through the game.

Perhaps, but anyways my point is, the reason why Bolton is elite is similar to the case for Dusty/Tim Kelly. Their clearances are actually meaningful and frequently converted to scoring opportunities.

Patrick Cripps can have 29 clearances in 1 game which result in 29 direct turnovers and scores for the opposition team.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Perhaps, but anyways my point is, the reason why Bolton is elite is similar to the case for Dusty/Tim Kelly. Their clearances are actually meaningful and frequently converted to scoring opportunities.

Patrick Cripps can have 29 clearances in 1 game which result in 29 direct turnovers and scores for the opposition team.

Funny you mention Cripps because I was reading this somewhere else. Cripps averages something like only 3 touches more and only .2 less Score involvements then Bolton. I’m not sure if that was before this round but if it was then it will be even more in Cripps favour now. I think the actual impact per possession is probably exaggerated a little because of the flash Bolton has.

 

[Prochard123]

Funny you mention Cripps because I was reading this somewhere else. Cripps averages something like only 3 touches more and only .2 less Score involvements then Bolton. I’m not sure if that was before this round but if it was then it will be even more in Cripps favour now. I think the actual impact per possession is probably exaggerated a little because of the flash Bolton has.

If you receive a handball, dish it off to someone 5 metres away from you, who then delivers the ball inside 50 and results in a score, that's a score involvement.

The difference is that, Bolton is often the one immediately CAUSING the score, which is extremely valuable because he both starts the scoring chain and ends it after winning the ball in the middle.

 

[Wild Bill]

Will be interesting to see how Bolton reacts to Reiwoldt stealing his car.

He can now find it at O’Briens house.

Bolton needs to get the howlers out of his game. No good being Bog 1 week and then Wog the next.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

If you receive a handball, dish it off to someone 5 metres away from you, who then delivers the ball inside 50 and results in a score, that's a score involvement.

The difference is that, Bolton is often the one immediately CAUSING the score, which is extremely valuable because he both starts the scoring chain and ends it after winning the ball in the middle.

I totally agree but if your touches end up equaling about the same amount of scoring shots then does it even make a difference? I mean both would be having the same amount of touches that there side don’t end up scoring from. Considering Bolton is a lot more forward of centre too you would expect a lot more score involvements yet his touches don’t actually end up with scores at noticeably a better rate. Fair enough if Cripps was in a good side dishing off to good link up players to good forwards but that is far from the fact.
It really just shows they both have a similar rate of touches that end up with nothing coming from them despite the perceptions people have.