Player Watch Shane McAdam

[jenny61_99]

I think it’s well past the danger phase. It’s disappeared and emerged out the other end

I don't often agree with you... but on this, there is absolutely no doubt!

 

[SugarShane]

Just going through their explanations.

It was careless McAdam chose to bump at considerable speed, where a reasonably prudent player would have realised there was a considerable risk of injury to the player with the ball.
We found it was high contact.

Hard to argue McAdam's case, but you can use this exact description for Buddy and Kozi. The only change being the player DIDN'T have the ball in their cases.

Was it at least low actual impact to the head? We find that it was. We do not accept the submission that Where's chin rested on McAdam's back shoulder. Impact was greater than that, it was not negligible.

He passed a concussion test. His doctor confirmed it and actual medical experts provided that submission. But we do not accept it as it doesn't suit our planned outcome.

Impact in the Lance Franklin case was more glancing in nature than occurred here.

As for the Pickett example, there appeared to be a slightly more glancing aspect to the impact that occurred here.

Correct. But the POTENTIAL was still there. Which is what we're crucifying McAdam for. Their excuse for Franklin and Pickett is "oh but it was glancing so there was no damage", while completely ignoring that McAdam did no actual damage either. Also completely ignoring that Pickett launched himself at somebody's head ffs.

Their entire justification of Pickett and Franklin's penalties is "well it was glancing so it didn't actually do that much damage".
Yet the thing they can't get over with Shane is "but it COULD HAVE hurt him!"

If we are wrong about that, we note that the guidelines say that we are not bound by the examples, it ought not be assumed we would necessarily grade
impact in the Pickett matter as high impact and not severe.

You can't assume that Pickett would get graded as high, despite the fact that Pickett got graded as high.

 

[Cap]

Right move IMO, it's good to see we are finally growing a backbone as a club. First Mackay and now this.

 

[Jarman3]

Excellent discussion on the Back page...Fitzy not happy...Even the NRL, Soccer guys agree Pickett's was the worse one of all.

MRO calls ‘vindicated’ or ‘confusion reigns’? Ban lengths polarise hosts after ‘watershed’ moment

‘Got to stop this’: Fitzy fumes over bump bans, AFL’s missed chance to ‘send message’

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"Those that are pleading for bigger penalties on this front, now within the framework – and as much as some decry the framework, you actually have to deliver within the framework because you’ll get rolled every time at the tribunal – Michael’s got the capacity to go two categories up to get to something more appropriate where it just doesn’t instinctively feel right"

Is that actually what the rules say? He can upgrade the category when "it just doesn't instinctively feel right"? So it the rule is literally just "the vibe" of it?

 

[Punchy Bassett]

And he won the Brownlow.....

 

[Mutineer]

Pair of paid employees....of course they'd say that. Don't like using the word morons but these 2 fit the bill.

 

[Mutineer]

Rubbing the shit in...

 

[Mutineer]

Rubbing the shit in ..

 

[PoholkMe10]

Rubbing the s**t in...

"It's all bias and conspiracy over the border"

Proceeds to agree that in comparison to Pickett the ruling is contentious

What an imbecile, mocking the claim then justifying the claim within seconds without a hint of irony.

 

[Burtonsgottago]

You'd think so but AFL mouth pieces (Whateley) have said one action was a football action and the other was not.

I'll leave it up to you to "guess" which one is which.

He knows where his bread is buttered.

The Crows are not an AFL baby that needs propping up. They know that they can continually make an example of us and we’ll keep turning up and contributing $$$$$ to the league because football is a way of life here.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

He knows where his bread is buttered.

The Crows are not an AFL baby that needs propping up. They know that they can continually make an example of us and we’ll keep turning up and contributing $$$$$ to the league because football is a way of life here.

It's slowly not though and corrupt decisions like this will only push people away.

 

[Cap]

"It's all bias and conspiracy over the border"

Proceeds to agree that in comparison to Pickett the ruling is contentious

What an imbecile, mocking the claim then justifying the claim within seconds without a hint of irony.

Yeah, he can GAGF

Of course we are going to be pissed when of three similar incidents ours get the worst outcome. Mind you all said for ratings.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

Yeah, he can GAGF

Of course we are going to be pissed when of three similar incidents ours get the worst outcome. Mind you all said for ratings.

For someone who thinks they are so smart and intelligent compared to everyone else, he missed the point entirely. I don't any of us think there should be no ban for McAdam, but Pickett's was worse AND GOT A LIGHTER PENALTY! It's not that hard to figure out.

 

[rabidcrow]

I'm not sure if it makes a difference under the rules in question (which appear to be pretty damn vague anyway), but it seems to me that there's also an issue that Wehr actually had the ball at the time when McAdam hit him, while Smith didn't when Pickett got him. Surely that's got to be a mitigating factor for McAdam compared to the Pickett incident?

And let’s consider Buddy’s target never even took possession and Bud ran past the ball. And only hit him in the head


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[cleanhands]

He knows where his bread is buttered.

The Crows are not an AFL baby that needs propping up. They know that they can continually make an example of us and we’ll keep turning up and contributing $$$$$ to the league because football is a way of life here.

I recall having a discussion with then a SANFL dignitaries about the $$$ going to QLD. GWS, and our limited $$$$, he said the AFLs response was we are a football state that can stand on our own feet

 

[Burtonsgottago]

It's slowly not though and corrupt decisions like this will only push people away.

We keep turning up though and we always will… the league knows it

 

[Jarman3]

Pair of paid employees....of course they'd say that. Don't like using the word morons but these 2 fit the bill.

It would be the right outcome if Pickett also got 3. Either Pickett also gets 3, or McAdam also gets 2. If they'd got the same penalty, I seriously doubt we would be appealing right now and everybody would have just copped it and moved on. That's what a numbnut like Whately seems to be missing - the idea that we somehow didn't get the memo on the dangers of head injury etc is a massive straw man. Nobody is disputing the need to protect the head. We're not trying to get McAdam off scot-free for this. We just want consistency with bans handed out to other players for near-identical offences. We're not trying to get the suspension thrown out, just reduced to the same level that other clubs copped.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

We keep turning up though and we always will… the league knows it

But we aren't though, our crowds have fallen off, I'd be surprised if we get 30000 Saturday.

 

[cleanhands]

But we aren't though, our crowds have fallen off, I'd be surprised if we get 30000 Saturday.

I think we are ok, not sure our little brother is doing so well

 

[Burtonsgottago]

And let’s consider Buddy’s target never even took possession and Bud ran past the ball. And only hit him in the head


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If the AFL protect Buddy from the 3 strike rule because his contract was worth too much to them in keeping Swans supporters invested in the game, they’re not going to begin going heavy on him now.
We laugh at FIFA but the AFL is a corrupt organisation in our own backyard.

 

[Burtonsgottago]

But we aren't though, our crowds have fallen off, I'd be surprised if we get 30000 Saturday.

Memberships, tv, sponsorship, merchandise etc

 

[Punchy Bassett]

Memberships, tv, sponsorship, merchandise etc

Have you seen how much advertising we are doing for memberships this year? I reckon our numbers are very down.

 

[Interloperer]

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So "the vibe of the thing" then

 

[WetCrow1991]

Have you seen how much advertising we are doing for memberships this year? I reckon our numbers are very down.

Yep, I was able to move to some very good seats, and there were a lot of vacancies that were otherwise full in previous seasons.

 

[MRB37]

Asked how many weeks Pickett would’ve been suspended for if that action was in an NRL game, veteran Courier-Mail reporter Robert Craddock told Back Page Live: “Six to eight. That’s just a cannonball. You just can’t do it.

Not so according to the AFL!