Politics Should Australia become a Republic?

[Roylion]

Exactly. If the English monarchy evaporated overnight, it would have no effect here.

There would still be an Australian monarch

I say practically, there’d be plenty of hand wringing

Some prefer the system of a constitutional monarchy to that of a republic.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

There would still be an Australian monarch


Some prefer the system of a constitutional monarchy to that of a republic.

Don't think that is correct.

The English monarch's representative in Australia is the Governer General, if the English monarchy disappeared overnight, so would the governor generals' powers.

Australia does not have its own Monarchy, it still falls under the English, which is a hereditary monarchy. IE bloodline.

 

[Roylion]

The English monarch's representative in Australia is the Governer General, if the English monarchy disappeared overnight, so would the governor generals' powers.

That is not correct. The Governor-General is the representative of the monarch of Australia.

Australia does not have its own Monarchy, it still falls under the English, which is a hereditary monarchy. IE bloodline.

The Crown of Australia is legally separate to the Crown of the United Kingdom. Were the UK to become a republic tomorrow, that would not alter our own status as a constitutional monarchy. And the reverse is also true.

Succession to the legally separate and independent Crown of Australia is governed by the Australian Constitution Act (1900), the Act of Settlement (1700) and the Bill of Rights (1689) and all three are now Australian law. This means that were the UK to repeal or alter any of the above Acts, it would have no effect in Australia. It is the Australian Constitution Act (1900) that sets the governor-general's powers.

The monarch, if required, acts with regard to Australian affairs, exclusively upon the advice of Australian ministers.

The Australia Acts terminated the power of the United Kingdom to legislate for Australia on March 3rd 1986 and the Crowns of the Uk and Australia were legally separated by the 1931 Statute of Westminster. This was adopted in Australia on 9th October 1942 but backdated to 3rd September 1939.

The Statute recognised:

• the formal equalness and separateness of the British Crown and the Australian Crown.
• that any alteration to laws regarding the Succession to the Throne or the monarch's Royal Style and Titles needed the assent of the Australian parliament to be valid in that country. This includes the abdication of any monarch.
• that the Parliament of the United Kingdom no longer had any legislative authority over the parliament of the Commonwealth of Australia
• laws made by the Parliament of Australia which were repugnant to British laws were no longer invalid.

 

[Gralin]

The fact it's the same guy for both countries is just a teeny tiny insignificant detail

 

[schneebly111]

We're already an independent nation and have been since at least March 3rd 1986.

The fact you said “at least” means you can’t say for certain when the date of independence was, therefore there are still questions on the status of said independence.

Probably also relevant for the national day debate. I read over 140 countries observe their date of independence as their national day; 48 celebrate their date of independence from the UK as their national day. Only 1 celebrates it on their date of colonisation.

 

[Gralin]

The fact you said “at least” means you can’t say for certain when the date of independence was, therefore there are still questions on the status of said independence.

Probably also relevant for the national day debate. I read over 140 countries observe their date of independence as their national day; 48 celebrate their date of independence from the UK as their national day. Only 1 celebrates it on their date of colonisation.

I think pretending the King has no conflict of interest because his roles are legally separated is exactly the kind of bullshit the establishment runs with.

 

[Roylion]

The fact you said “at least” means you can’t say for certain when the date of independence was, therefore there are still questions on the status of said independence.

There are no questions at all.

The Australia Act eliminated the remaining possibilities for the UK to legislate with effect in Australia, for the UK to be involved in Australian government, and for an appeal from any Australian court to a British court.

The act formally severed all legal ties between Australia and the United Kingdom from March 3rd 1986 onwards. If others wish to regard Australian independence beginning on 1st January 1901 or 9th October 1942, then they can do so. However without doubt, Australian independence from the UK was achieved from March 3rd 1986 onwards.

Only 1 celebrates it on their date of colonisation.

Talk to the Federal Government. I don't really care what date 'Australia Day' is on.

 

[Roylion]

I think pretending the King has no conflict of interest because his roles are legally separated is exactly the kind of bullshit the establishment runs with.

The monarch of Australia, if required, acts with regard to Australian affairs, exclusively upon the formal advice of his/her Australian ministers only.

The reserve powers that are exercised by the Governor-General are vested in the person of the monarch.

 

[Gralin]

The monarch of Australia, if required, acts with regard to Australian affairs, exclusively upon the formal advice of his/her Australian ministers only.

The reserve powers that are exercised by the Governor-General are vested in the person of the monarch.

That doesn't change anything I said does it though.

Merry Christmas

 

[Roylion]

That doesn't change anything I said does it though.

I thought it was pretty clear when I said that the monarch, acts with regard to Australian affairs, exclusively upon the formal advice of his/her Australian ministers only.

In most cases, its the Australian Governor-General that exercises the powers vested in the person of the monarch, in regards to Australian affairs.

What 'conflict of interest' are you referring to?