Politics Should Australia become a Republic?

[Gralin]

Gralin, I've been giving it some thought. In the Lydia Thorpe thread, while seemingly not against the idea of a Republic (correct me if I'm wrong!) you seem pretty pessimistic about what it might actually bring, especially with regards to Aboriginal Australia. I think it will introduce a positive political base structure that they feel they can actually BELONG TO, rather than the still-alien colonial relic they live on the periphery of right now.

I don't think it will change anything material day to day about how the country is run

Yes, knowing Australia's penchant for 'she'll be right, mate' political apathy there IS the danger that the public will think "right, job's done let's down tools" but I'd like to think that the prospect of a brand new nation might light a fire, a political fire, in a good few bellies that are just currently going through the motions.

That's just it, it won't be a brand new nation, it will be the same nation with a different head of state

I don't know, maybe I'm too optimistic. Your skepticism though, I can't quite see things that way either.

I know you can't

 

[Gough]

Be interesting to see the reaction of the suckhole monarchists like Abbott and Dutton when their King describes climate change as an existential threat.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

I don't think it will change anything material day to day about how the country is run

Would you vote for any kind of a Republic yourself?

 

[Gralin]

Would you vote for any kind of a Republic yourself?

yes

I'm not saying a republic is bad I'm saying your view of what a republic will mean and do is to me very far from the reality of this country

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

yes

I'm not saying a republic is bad I'm saying your view of what a republic will mean and do is to me very far from the reality of this country

I can see where you're coming from

 

[barreness]

Its not just due to generational change. Thats been happening for millions of years. Likewise its too simple to say education. Education has also been happening for centuries.

Its due to western democratic capitalism which has rejected religion/gods and king/queen/nationalism as its key social driver in favour of human individidualism.

The very system you are against is the very system that has opened up and embraced minorities as equal members of society and humanity. China and Russia arent supportive of such minorities yet they also have very high education rates and the same rate of generational change. And why is that? Their systems dont embrace individualism and the rights of humans.

I literally don't know if you're taking the piss here?

 

[Seeds]

I literally don't know if you're taking the piss here?

Maybe you should read up more on the history of democracy, humanism and capitalism and find out what drove it.

 

[barreness]

Maybe you should read up more on the history of democracy, humanism and capitalism and find out what drove it.

Perhaps you should look into the USSR and CCP's atheism, anti monarchy views, and fights against nationalism


Xi is embracing nationalism and Russia isn't a socialist project anymore, the point stands though