So overall what do you think?

[Ford Fairlane]

Wouldn't O'Meara - and all the other group that nominated for the 2011 mini draft - go into the general draft pool next year, and GWS get the 2012 bunch of ineligible 17yos to offer up?

I can't see how they could keep the same group out of the draft next year.

Then they wouldn't have had O'Meara to offer up but possibly a lesser player.

 

[philthy05]

porthos those under 17 picks change, as in they had 4 to use, only used 2. next year they have to trade 2 more, but they will be under 17 from that draft class not the previous. so if they hadnt of traded any picks omeara would be available in the next draft.

 

[Portia]

Oh really? I thought they kept the same pool of players.

 

[SwampRat]

Spaceballs?

Surely a helmet of that size would protect him

Spaceballs it is.

 

[Asgardian]

No problems with this approach. It doesn't set himself up for the massive fall when the players he touted as "top of our list" end up not making it.

We'd hate to have a Rendell

Porthos is the only bloke I've seen to have any negatives re choosing Wingard at 6.

If you want to be glass half empty every selection at the draft is risky because of some aspect - girlfriends, mates, go home, weight, height, body shape, past injuries, potential for future injuries, future career options, genetics, courage, lack of courage, lack of skills, lack of some skills, accuracy, playing habits, off-field habits, smoking, drinking, ego, lack of leadership, I'm sure there are plenty more.

 

[TheSuper6of06]

Overall

Couldn't be happier

We got Wingard and if that was it

then itd still be an awesome draft

45 and 51 are bonuses

Ah Chee, if we can develop him, looks exciting

 

[Portia]

If you want to be glass half empty every selection at the draft is risky because of some aspect - girlfriends, mates, go home, weight, height, body shape, past injuries, potential for future injuries, future career options, genetics, courage, lack of courage, lack of skills, lack of some skills, accuracy, playing habits, off-field habits, smoking, drinking, ego, lack of leadership, I'm sure there are plenty more.

Sure, but thats why the tangibles are important.

 

[Jakko]

Im pretty happy with it.

I would have taken 2 pure key position players at 45 and 51, but maybe we will load up on them next year.

 

[Noobz0r]

More than happy with what we have got, in what is considered a weak draft. I'm glad we nabbed someone of Wingas ability, as well as being glad that we took a punt on potential in Ah Chee.

Next year's 'superdraft' is even more important for us! Hopefully we'll grab a couple of KPP's!

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Rohde said we would have taken Wingard at 3 or 4. He did say that the fact he was local played into that a bit though.

 

[Portia]

I think it is easy for Rohde to say that now, same as it is easy for Matt Rendell to say he got five of the top ten players he wanted every year.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I'm glad we didn't draft Hayden Crozier. Not because I don't like him but reading Cornes's column today (a rarity) he said that when Freo read out Crozier's name his mum wailed out a long despairing 'Nooooooo' that was so loud it startled the Adelaide table sitting in front of her.

Clearly WA is a bit far away. Maybe SA wouldn't have been so bad. But he was expected to get to GWS.

 

[Natman]

I think it is easy for Rohde to say that now, same as it is easy for Matt Rendell to say he got five of the top ten players he wanted every year.

To be fair Rohde's comment has some substance if only from mock drafts having him going from 3-5, whereas Rendell, enuf said.

 

[Macca19]

I'm glad we didn't draft Hayden Crozier. Not because I don't like him but reading Cornes's column today (a rarity) he said that when Freo read out Crozier's name his mum wailed out a long despairing 'Nooooooo' that was so loud it startled the Adelaide table sitting in front of her.

Clearly WA is a bit far away. Maybe SA wouldn't have been so bad. But he was expected to get to GWS.

Haha, thats hilarious!

 

[*PAF]

Happier than in most previous drafts in some ways.

Like every year all that most of us get to see to make up our own mind, are the few minutes of highlight packages, plus we get to read some write-ups from a few knowledgeable people and even more write-ups from regurgitators of information. Not just on posting boards but most journalists fall in this category as well.


This year it appears as if we got 2 players that fit our needs and have the raw potential to be first 22 in not too long, plus one of the kids that not only fits our needs down to a T, but also one that the knowledgeable people say has the potential to be elite.
I do not recall previous drafts where that's happened.

I need to point out that I talking about as a whole and not from an individual player here and there point of view.

EDIT: Further to the above, what it means is that if we were to get 2 of the top 5 picks next year, we now have enough potential talent and depth, spread across the whole team, that we will be able to concentrate on going for best available talent rather than best available for a particular position.
This will make a big big difference long term, but yes one need to emphasise that we are still talking potential talent only at this stage.

 

[b0ydman]

EDIT: Further to the above, what it means is that if we were to get 2 of the top 5 picks next year,

i cant see it happening now
Brabert, renouf, Butcher
Hartlett and Boak a year older
can't play as bad as we did
more assistant coaches
primus has to have learned something
i put us down for 6-10 wins and 13th to 9th
no PPs and maybe a pick #5

 

[longdonkey]

Put us down for 4 -4.5 wins and a lot of losses less than 6 goals. I can see us 0-5 and no chance of making the 8. Then we will start to improve.
I predict we will get Pick 2 (priority) Pick 5 for coming 16th and Pick 6 for losing a player to GWS. Not sure who, but it's my guess we'll lose someone that we'll get a first rounder for.

 

[*PAF]

i cant see it happening now
Brabert, renouf, Butcher
Hartlett and Boak a year older
can't play as bad as we did
more assistant coaches
primus has to have learned something
i put us down for 6-10 wins and 13th to 9th
no PPs and maybe a pick #5

It wasn't meant to mean we will, should or anything else.
Just used the example to show how we are placed now Vs last year or the year before.

 

[Northalives]

Thing is, once pick 45 and 51 came around in this draft it always seemed as though we were going to be picking for either (1) depth or (2) project players.

No doubt we have a ridiculous bank up of flankers - some of them are consgined to being flankers because they haven't been trained hard enough or conditioned well enough to AFL level midfielders (Broadbent, Brett Ebert in particular).

If we went with depth in the centre-square with pick 45/51, we were probably looking at getting another Banner type. We also have a few of those that we need to start developing and bringing up to decent AFL level (Banner, Irons, Newton, Broadbent, Jonas).

So we have opted for depth in the taller defender position, taking someone who sounds like he has made rapid progress in a short space of time. At least Blee has played a role on true full forwards, which is more than can be said for O'Shea or Paul Stewart. He is really an upgrade on Pettigrew who still got opportunities in his last season with us, and is already an improvement over Salter, who may yet be recast as a forward with a few new coaching opinions around the club.

Very succinct and I couldn't agree with you more.

We were very light on for defenders and ruckmen and now we have one ready made, premiership ruckman and a young fella (Blee), who could well be the defender we so desperately needed although, he may be a year away but if he has that Trengove ruthlessness, he plays this forthcoming season.

As for Ah Chee, he could be anything and I mean anything.

Wingard's a star already apparently and Brad Ebert is an AFL footballer and we have many, many midfield/half back flanker types so for mine, the draft quality and positional types we picked was excellent.

 

[Northalives]

PS.
Every man and his dog reckons that Salter is a forward and now, every dog and his man are saying he shouldn't have been given a contract because we scored Blee in the draft.
First of all, who knew for certain that we'd get Blee and second, like PJ said, it be good if he was given his chance as a forward and maybe, just maybe, he's now second in line behind Brett as the medium type forward.

 

[Forzaport]

Salter to move out of defence and move to the wing or even better...up forward!

 

[SupportMe]

We're still lacking in actual small defenders.

Logan isn't one and the coaches (wrongly) loathe to play Surjan or Stewart there.

 

[FishingRick04]

i cant see it happening now
Brabert, renouf, Butcher
Hartlett and Boak a year older
can't play as bad as we did
more assistant coaches
primus has to have learned something
i put us down for 6-10 wins and 13th to 9th
no PPs and maybe a pick #5

I'm with you

 

[Northalives]

We're still lacking in actual small defenders.

Logan isn't one and the coaches (wrongly) loathe to play Surjan or Stewart there.

Brett Ebert !!

 

[PJ Power]

We're still lacking in actual small defenders.

Logan isn't one and the coaches (wrongly) loathe to play Surjan or Stewart there.

I agree that we look a bit thin in this area, but surely the easiest resolution is to show confidence in Surjan and let him recapture his fitness, strength and determination. The guy is 26 and has plenty to offer if given the full backing of his coaches and the players around him.

If we have Surjan playing at his 2009 best, one of Paul Stewart, Jonas or O'Shea performing as a tight-checking, intercepting medium defender (the Montgomery role) and a third small-medium defender who can rebound the ball and use it well out of defence, this will give us the right mix. The last position is the one we need to make progress in - Pittard and Jacobs have some way to go to play this role properly, while Hartlett, Pearce and Salopek are better service to us playing around the midfield. Don't know about Brett Ebert's capacity to defend, but if his fitness is up, he would certainly give us the kicking ability required in defence.