St Kilda President Andrew Bassat tees off on the AFL draft system, specifically father/son and the Northern Academies

[Handsuper47]

No Dusty,no cups

Dusty was a draft pick, what point are ya trying to make here? St Kilda have had so many great players.. unless you're trying to tell me Dusty is better than any St Kilda player that's ever pulled on the guernsey (which I won't argue).

 

[Mat Mann]

Academies are designed to get kids playing AFL at grassroots or developing more elite kids when the major state footy codes are League or Rugby. Done by clubs not AFL Qld or NSW AFL. The points system is evening up. Reflecting better that clubs been around for 10 years and have potential for father son.

But inequality is everywhere. The Victorian travel rort needs to be managed it’s not just the final. StKilda travelled out of Vic only 7 times. Played since mid July, their last 6 matches, at Marvel. We’d need to send their teams away for a night away after local away matches. Sleep more in hotel beds away from family. Which is just a wrong conversation to have. Do I have to do recruiting strategy for StKilda too

that's beacuse we played back to back interstate sides early in the season, did you not read. 4 home games in 1st 14 rounds, 7 different venues in 9 games.

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poor Brisbane having an almost regular home and away fixture

you mention the points system changing, who do you think was vocal about that happening? I can give you a hint, see the OP

 

[Upgrayedd]

So how does he explain the success of Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs over the past 10 seasons?

Guys like Bontempelli/Petracca/brayshaw/Naughton faaling to them

 

[Teflon]

Hopefully a packet of chips. Do you feel oppressed by the Lions academy?

No just the attitude of it’s entitled fans

 

[Dewyyyyy]

This isn’t just a new phenomenon. Collingwood for example were on there knees. The AFL basically made them the franchise of all time slots and basically with ED rebuilt them along with a new supporter base.

Yeah no.

 

[Teflon]

He raised academies which I took as NGA too. But good point.

The guy has a disability
But you keep staying classy

 

[Teflon]

If St Kilda truly believes it is a cheat code to premiership success, they are welcome to try and re-establish themselves on a footy frontier and enjoy all the largesse of a development academy. We’ll see you in the GF!

Just get N identity instead of living off the Carcass of a true VFL club
Better still ..go back to being “bears” ffs

 

[Cyclops]

This isn’t just a new phenomenon. Collingwood for example were on there knees. The AFL basically made them the franchise of all time slots and basically with ED rebuilt them along with a new supporter base.

Yep, the League have carried us every step of the way. We're just funny widdle guys.

 

[Teflon]

Geelong about to recruit another 100 best 22 players this offseason via lifestyle, but the academies are the real thing holding St Kilda back.

Martin ffs
That’ll secure them 2025 flag ….

 

[Dewyyyyy]

The guy has a disability
But you keep staying classy

Where did I make fun of his disability?

 

[Goatie]

The AFL needs to get rid of the 25% discount to start.
I think the best way to fix this issue is to scrap father sons and academies. The other issue is that the players have too much power even after 1 or 2 years in the system.

For the first 6-8 years of a players career the club should be able to trade them to any club. After 6-8 years the player becomes a free agent.
By doing this there would be no issue of player retention for the northern states.
If a player has been with the GWS for 4 years. GWS offer him a 5 year contract the player says no then they can trade to the highest bidder.
The interstate clubs would also be able to trade in players a lot easier.
Player wages would have to be increased for this to happen. But if every player knows when they enter the draft they could be going to anywhere in Australia for a minimum of 6 years.
If the average wage was increased to 800k I’m sure most players would still play AFL.
Every club has an advantage and needs to maximise it but that should not affect the draft.
If there was no compromised drafts N.Daicos and W.Ashcroft would be playing for North. Which means you wouldn’t have to give out compo picks because North can’t move up the ladder.

 

[dean33]

or.. or...... he was born profoundly deaf and has a speech impediment as a result............

no he didn't go full Baker

Ahhh ok, didn’t know that.

 

[Millsie69]

 

[Obeanie1]

the father son rule is the same for everyone.....GWS and Gold Coast have the disadvantage only

However some clubs gain much more advantage from it than others.

And when they are lucky multiple bites of the discounted cherry.

The problem is when clubs gain advantages from father son discounts, academy discounts and gain a free agent for free, another discount on draft capital.

That can be easily measured and limited. The discounts need to be capped.

 

[Mister Carlton]

Don’t bite the hand that feeds you.

Bevo said in his coaches speech tonight that you don’t complain, just get on with it.

 

[jasonrampage2010]

He's half deaf pal

On Pixel 7 using BigFooty.com mobile app

Sounds like Eric Cartman

 

[Cool Kangas]

goodbye north, saints and melbourne.

hello act, tas and wa3.

thank me later afl house

Hmmm says the supporter of the club that used to be Fitzroy. #irony

 

[brutus76]

Get this Bassat bloke into the nearest.........

 

[Toump Ass]

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I don't get it. What does this mean.

 

[StCicatriz]

How's it weird. He's right.

 

[StCicatriz]

Gee that will fill the players with confidence for next season, knowing they're just making up numbers...

We are though

 

[StCicatriz]

Honestly just remove the salary cap. I'm over this bullshit system where they prop up the northern based clubs so they can match it with the other power clubs.

Remove the cap. Let the pies and wce go at it for a decade. Let's see how their precious plastic Northern clubs go after a decade of that.

 

[Ando727]

He is both right and wrong at the same time.

Right that there are too many clubs in Melbourne so the smaller VFL clubs are always going to have to make up the numbers in a sense. And there is no commercial incentive to have all of these clubs up at the same time or for long periods.

Wrong from the perspective that the Saints have had the worst drafting of any club in recent memory (which is why their list profile is god awful), have hired a coach who plays a brand of footy which isn't commercially attractive to the networks and are a club that gets significant financial contributions on par with the northern clubs to stay financially competitive.

There will always be struggling Melbourne clubs but that doesn't mean they always have to be the same ones. Let's not forget that Melbourne and the Bulldogs have been premiers in the last decade. There's no reason St Kilda or North couldn't jag one if they got their act together.

 

[mpal6]

30+ years and going strong in Sydney ….
Great sustainable model ..

Definitely more sustainable now to the point players from NSW origin are spread across other clubs too. Heeney from Newcastle as well as Gulden, Rampe, Blakey coming from UNSW Eastern suburbs show the game is starting to grow as well as producing top end talents.

Swans dominate NSW Origin team for 2022

The Sydney Swans have dominated the NSW Origin team selected in this year’s State of Origin team with five Swans players and three coaches selected.

www.sydneyswans.com.au

 

[mpal6]

If St Kilda truly believes it is a cheat code to premiership success, they are welcome to try and re-establish themselves on a footy frontier and enjoy all the largesse of a development academy. We’ll see you in the GF!

Yep, become Canberra Saints. Have your own academy, NGA, whatever. Feel free to see if you can retain and grow talent. Saints may be getting a better hand as Canberra isn't a NRL heartland and may be easier to establish.