Standard of Umpiring - Suggestions for change

[pugsville]

"Let me just patronise you all for a moment..."

Pretty sure there's enough level-headed people here who can tell wheat from chaff. It's a very hard game to umpire BECAUSE THE AFL MAKES IT SO.

I agree in general the AFL had not made it easier, and they have consistently tried to robotize the umpires which has made them tend to be technical.. But nature of the game also make a difficult game to umpire from the get go.

But for over 100 years (at least1) a smack in the face when marking and a head-high tackle both constitute free kicks.

Yup but these things are not called often enough. (and even my time spoils like that were routinely play on) They were bad calls. But bad calls happen. Pretty darn regularly and most games a at least a couple. Couple pretty bad calls agiasnst your tema given there occur pretty darn regualrly and agianst all teams is hardly a decrnt case for biass or cheating,

But kicking the ball to a dead area so your injured player (from the previous non-free kick) can safely walk off is somehow a 'deliberate'.

The Rues make no concession for this. Common sense has been consistently drummed out of the umpires. They have been steered to be technical.

It was poor skill, poor reading of the situation and badly adjudicated all around. Same as Tuesday's game.

Tuesday they were consist in just not calling stuff. it was bad umpiring,

 

[pugsville]

Former suburban umpire myself, umpired 250 games with 4 Grand Final field umpire appointments. When I made mistakes I got grilled and lost out on opportunities to umpire at higher levels. When AFL umpires make "mistakes" they get a slap on the ass. There is no accountability for blatantly wrong calls and no body to contact that doesn't just tick off on it.

Mistakes are mistakes, they are wrongful actions made against the spirit of the laws of the game. There needs to be consequences for mistakes made, regardless of intent or excuse. It was a mistake in umpiring if the umpire was not in the right positioning to see all of the contest.

Not even sure why I'm dignifying your silly posting with a response, but it's for the record. Literally no one shares your point of view lol.

How do you know there are conseuenes. Umpires are dropped, Conrtacts not renewed. Are you claiming you are prents at the meetings, hear umpire feedback and party oto contact negioataions. Or are just making ambit claims without any evdience at all?

So you are saying the umpires are cheats? Because that is the pint of difference here.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

I don’t think they’re cheating, but I do think they have been ****ing awful two weeks running and we’ve won anyway.

 

[caloschwaby]

So you are saying the umpires are cheats? Because that is the pint of difference here.

I'm saying if the umpires face no consequences proportionate to mistakes made then the only reasonable conclusion is that the umpires in question are either incompetent, or providing an unfair advantage for players/teams that they so choose because they can get away with it (and quite easily).

I've said it three times how is that so hard to get?

 

[pugsville]

I'm saying if the umpires face no consequences proportionate to mistakes made then the only reasonable conclusion is that the umpires in question are either incompetent, or providing an unfair advantage for players/teams that they so choose because they can get away with it (and quite easily).

I've said it three times how is that so hard to get?

With all due respect your have been as clear as mud. I asked you cliam there are cheating and that was repsonse soo I no closer to gettng an actual answer than...

"I'm not saying they are cheating, its that they have to be cheating "

Which is contradiction and not a clear expression of anything.

Are you claiming they are cheating. YES or NO?

 

[caloschwaby]

With all due respect your have been as clear as mud. I asked you cliam there are cheating and that was repsonse soo I no closer to gettng an actual answer than...

"I'm not saying they are cheating, its that they have to be cheating "

Which is contradiction and not a clear expression of anything.

Are you claiming they are cheating. YES or NO?

Ignore list hahaha

 

[Maggie5]

The Rues make no concession for this. Common sense has been consistently drummed out of the umpires. They have been steered to be technical.

Isn't the rule that when a player is injured or bleeding, play is stopped until a replacement can be made?

Pendlebury last week?

 

[The Magnificent Seven]

Isn't the rule that when a player is injured or bleeding, play is stopped until a replacement can be made?

Pendlebury last week?

Maybe we need 12 umpires on the field at all times. 1 to miss the decision, 3 to watch the behind-the-play scuffles and ignore then, and then 8 others to not say or do anything in case they dare cause offence to the first 4.

 

[danielnajdek]

2 of the worst weeks of umpiring weve ever copped.

And we still won. Shows how good we are.

 

[Maggie5]

Maybe we need 12 umpires on the field at all times. 1 to miss the decision, 3 to watch the behind-the-play scuffles and ignore then, and then 8 others to not say or do anything in case they dare cause offence to the first 4.

Better still we should all have a whistle, wouldn't that be fun?

 

[The Magnificent Seven]

Better still we should all have a whistle, wouldn't that be fun?

That pea would be dust by the end of quarter time

 

[legendstatus]

Can’t wait for the AFL to say that the game was umpired well - one of the worst umpired games for a very a long time

Nuff said

 

[Scritchyscroony]

I don't normally have an issue with the umpiring but that was atrocious! 4 umpires and not one of them blew the whistle for Murph getting smashed front on in the face in a marking contest. EVERYONE else on the entire planet could see that was a blatant free kick except for the 4 guys being paid to officiate. It was bizarre!

If the AFL is serious about preventing head injuries they will send a strong message and all 4 of those umpires should be sent for a spell running around in the Central Highlands league.

 

[Pie eyed]

Maybe we need 12 umpires on the field at all times. 1 to miss the decision, 3 to watch the behind-the-play scuffles and ignore then, and then 8 others to not say or do anything in case they dare cause offence to the first 4.

Great.
12 total ****ing morons to **** up the game.
We need to start leaving their bodies on the fence to warn off other potential halfwits taking up the whistle.

 

[Black_White]

Isn't the rule that when a player is injured or bleeding, play is stopped until a replacement can be made?

Pendlebury last week?

An umpire must be made aware of blood to stop play.
In this case we needed the trainers, or the players, to point it out.
The flow wasn’t like Pendles.

 

[HeathySure]

I am usually complaining about the people complaining but today was seriously the worst i can remember in regards to home town decisions. The umps aren't cheating, but the crowd definitely affected them. My Essendon!!!!!!!!!! mate was messaging me in the 3rd quarter saying we were getting a raw deal and it only got worse in the last quarter.
Anyway we won... i am still buzzing, i love this team!

 

[Deathray]

Umpiring has been generally good and unobtrusive in 95% of games I’ve seen this year. Today however we were ‘crucified’.

 

[Wearmouth]

I don’t really care if they don’t pay too much. But to be blatantly biased like today is disgraceful. Once they stopped giving the Crows all these garbage decisions their progress dried up. Thats all that was happening. Every time their was a dubious free paid we got turned over and they scored. Lucky for us early they couldn’t take advantage of their good fortune from the Scumps.

To see Murphy smashed front on in the head was just disgraceful. And Johnson having his head taken off was unbelievable. But the real funny one was DeGoey getting called deliberate with the clearance from the center.

That the Crows can employ the NRL passing instead of hanballing is mind boggling.


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[legendstatus]

Umpiring has been generally good and unobtrusive in 95% of games I’ve seen this year. Today however we were ‘crucified’.

You must have 5% vision my friend

 

[josewales]

When blatantly bias adjudicating happens on multiple occasions in a game then integrity of the umpires should be called into question, can't see anyting wrong with that. The only alternative explanation is to admit they were incompotent in which case they should be appropriately dealt with. A good old fasioned tar and feathering wouldn't go astray.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Umpiring has been generally good and unobtrusive in 95% of games I’ve seen this year. Today however we were ‘crucified’.

We were crucified even according to posters on the Carltank board. Their exact words.

 

[pugsville]

Isn't the rule that when a player is injured or bleeding, play is stopped until a replacement can be made?

Pendlebury last week?

Yes there is but it;s up to the umpires, The players kick it out to stop play, it;s free kick until the ups notice the bleeding player and realise what is going. Sure common sense should givern but umpires at not allowed that.

 

[Apples]

I didn't have any issues with the umpiring in the first 3 quarters. The last quarter was a nightmare job. Umpire 19 made two awful howlers - Murphy's punch in the face which was called play-on
Murphy exiting ground without play being stopped - DeGoey penalised for deliberate OB as he tried to avoid Murphy and doctor.
I'm not sure which umpire missed the scrag around the neck in the goal square to AJ, but it was a howler of epic proportions.
Dan Richardson will be busy fielding calls from Fly tomorrow.
Perhaps Fly will be fined for being critical of the umpiring?

 

[magpies42]

Shocking stuff today. Particularly at the end of the game. Can’t remember the last time it went our way.

 

[jc37]

I genuinely think Simon Meredith shouldnt be allowed to umpire any Collingwood games ever again.
His umpiring cost us a GF spot last year and while bizarrely not the worst today made some highly questionable calls today. The kelly play on kicked in the end to the man on the mark.
I think should be like jury service where clubs can nominate up to 2 umpires they dont want ever to umpire games.
Most times umpires do a good job and rub of green goes both ways we had it against GC and Nth last year. Swans, this game and Geelong final really have massiver question marks over how they were officiated.