Movie Star Wars - Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker - Spoilers and Rumors

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something

Wot?

 

[Mootsy]

I think these films will age quite well, because so many people get lost in the hyperbole and discussion, they forget to just sit and watch in a zen state, such as it was in past decades. Often, you’d just sit and watch films with full attention, no distractions, eating Pringle’s.

 

[SM]

I think these films will age quite well, because so many people get lost in the hyperbole and discussion, they forget to just sit and watch in a zen state, such as it was in past decades. Often, you’d just sit and watch films with full attention, no distractions, eating Pringle’s.

Didn't you come out of TLJ with the same attitude and then at some point jarringly declared that actually you didn't like it? No disrespect but it actually seems like you're the one who doesn't watch and absorb what's on screen but get caught up in the cinematography.

 

[Mootsy]

Yeah that's me done with Star Wars films now, I'll just enjoy the OT and Rogue One, Mandalorian has been ok, but yeah not bothering with any new films now.

I liked the main characters, Snoke, Ren, Rey, Finn, Poe, K9 droid, BB8 etc

I think Snoke Version TLJ needed more development,

I would have liked to see knights of ren more involved, red/gold helmet lady, plasma.

I think a sith like Raven!

Luke needed to just be a normal character who assisted and trained the main characters until the end. We all wanted to see Luke in the forest doing Don Yen moves v Kylo.

maybe Luke and Rey fight Raven and Snoke and Kylo is still redeemed in the third film.

the biggest problem is zero story arch or the trilogy, they allowed it to be too random, all 3 are good stand alone films, basically.

lesson learnt! Given all of that, The Rise of Skywalker is really good! I was impressed.

 

[Mootsy]

Didn't you come out of TLJ with the same attitude and then at some point jarringly declared that actually you didn't like it? No disrespect but it actually seems like you're the one who doesn't watch and absorb what's on screen but get caught up in the cinematography.

I sat hunched in the chair a little disappointed upon my first viewing, I liked that it took chances on characters, what bothered me was the final editing and the force project scene between Luke and Kylo, that film was a perfect chance to see epic Sabre duels, and that was thrown out as well. TLJ was on tv last week and I enjoyed it, I liked the casino world and the giant dogs with oversized ears kind of worked. But it’s missing the action scenes required in Star Wars.

 

[atlas1]

I liked them, menacing and had a dark presence, they had a lot of scenes, it was good.

they had a nice balance in this movie. I mean, it’s not like they have a cameo scene. They do a lot in this movie.

I would have liked to see knights of ren more involved, red/gold helmet lady, plasma.

So according to you, the KoR had a lot of scenes (they didn't), they did a lot in the movie (they didn't), and you wanted them more involved?

WTF are you on?

 

[Mootsy]

So according to you, the KoR had a lot of scenes (they didn't), they did a lot in the movie (they didn't), and you wanted them more involved?

WTF are you on?

honestly, just too much processed food. lucky to have good metabolism.

 

[Exe Gesis]

It is entirely jarring, because as you watch it you can see that there are small nuggets where a competent person can actually make a movie, there's enough in very small doses where people bounce off each other, exposition is had and you can actually progress and humanise a film.

But they spend it chasing maguffin after maguffin, after maguffin trying to endear tropes, then spend a third of the film pandering to masses and checking off a friggen list of what people have bitched about for 30 years as "yep, include this as well" such as Chewie getting his medal in the end because woe is that he didn't in ROTJ amirite?

You literally open with the titular character going through steps to show that there's work and she's not just an overpowered hack, as it's well versed in commentary that she's a Mary Sue to try and allow people to care what she does and why she exists outside of to break something, such as force pulling a starship leading to arced lightning because, force farting? But who cares we need chase scenes up in here.

As poor as the PT was, there's a narrative that adds to the OT, as poor as moments are in the OT the narrative flows from the pT and lead into the ST with R1 into the beginning of TFA, the universe works, the people exist and actions undertaken matter within because there's ultimately a payoff that people you focused on, such as Obi Wan, Luke, Vader, Palp all had development where you as the audience cared what happened to them and why they did what they did. This film you largely pissed tonally on the second one, maybe cared for one person in Poe as a human and the rest is just mired in shit where nothing matters and everything burns or breaks.

I'm not saying don't like it, or sections of, I'm saying as a trilogy, this does not need to exist, and that it does is lesser for the overall universe, this film particularly I abjectly refuse as pandering nonsense that goes nowhere.

Also, the dead speak!

If they did, they probably call it a poor script leading to nothing meaningful as well.



Which is literally what JJ did, hence the explanation of snoke in tubes and verbose exposition to Kylo.

Arguably stronger choice is not redeeming Kylo, arcing him to take that throne, if you have to use Palp it's "old v new" where instead of him going "I'm going to kill you now, ok I won't, instead I'll leave" in quick succession, you have conflict resolution to re-establish leadership values of the opposition to "resistance/ republic" where the ménages à trois go hunting for answers to in world problems. Instead you went redemption arc making Palps entry as exposition (I've spent 30 years to build this fleet whilst you pissed yours away in 2 weeks, I am mighty) to core bad guy (if Rey = Mary, then, everything = lightning) and quick attempt to humanise people as Kylo now Ben almost yep nope dies and Rey usurps everything to yep nope in final confrontation because please like her and rise Palpatalker.

Palp is literally just a big bad exposition guy in this movie to "explain" things such as Snokes existence as if the republic / resistance ever stumbled on clone armies, gained an interest or never used bacta to regrow limbs on a humans as "only sith know cloning".

great post and easy to understand.

 

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great post and easy to understand.

Wow, sir.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Wow, sir.

Did you enjoy my review?

 

[Mootsy]

great post and easy to understand.

here’s the problem, there has to be some kind of cultural justification that new Star Wars isn’t just a wasted exposition of movie reel. So it’s now the end of the decade, so it’s very popular to lean on the side of finding reason for these decisions, as these films exist within a decade. So ok, these films do look a lot like a big budget Netflix series of Star Wars tales. There is no doubting that, but all they need to do next time is to reserve more budget costs for a writing team. You could hire the likes of kasdan, Hamil, Lucas, and so forth. Bring Raven in!

 

[Hai_Newman]

honestly, just too much processed food. lucky to have good metabolism.

LOLZ!!

 

[Exe Gesis]

here’s the problem, there has to be some kind of cultural justification that new Star Wars isn’t just a wasted exposition of movie reel. So it’s now the end of the decade, so it’s very popular to lean on the side of finding reason for these decisions, as these films exist within a decade. So ok, these films do look a lot like a big budget Netflix series of Star Wars tales. There is no doubting that, but all they need to do next time is to reserve more budget costs for a writing team. You could hire the likes of kasdan, Hamil, Lucas, and so forth.

i totally agree. The ST is a big waste of potential. The SW product so strong fans were always still going to come in droves and Disney recoup their investment. But they did the bare mininum with it, and made sone horrendous decisions along the way too. The ST is not a good addendum to the PT and OT due to it. TFA and TROS were sufficiently Star Warsy, visually acceptable, but we really coupdve had something special if theyd taken their time and wrote it all better.

 

[Mootsy]

I enjoyed your review and I wanted Jedi Raven! I’d say 3.0 is a bit low, it’s not white chicks 2 or Stepdads 3.

 

[Exe Gesis]

I enjoyed your review and I wanted Jedi Raven! I’d say 3.0 is a bit low, it’s not white chicks 2 or Stepdads 3.

just the system I use, more scientific/methodic/consistent.

same methodology if i were to review music, or art, or sport, etc. Breaking down the very thing into ten parts that define it, are its foundation.

 

[Mootsy]

Hats off to Adam Driver, his Kylo was simply superb, only said one word in the last hour, the rest being his physical acting ability. Was great to see him redeemed.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Hats off to Adam Driver, his Kylo was simply superb, only said one word in the last hour, the rest being his physical acting ability. Was great to see him redeemed.

its funny tho. driver as kylo, with rock star hair. a moment later, redeemed, as ben solo, all blow dryed back and permed.

a way to visually differentiate for us and especially for rey to tell he had turned back to the light, otherwise she wouldnt have Force Skyped Leias lightsaber to him.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Hats off to Adam Driver, his Kylo was simply superb, only said one word in the last hour, the rest being his physical acting ability. Was great to see him redeemed.

It was a helmet, but he wore it like a hat.

 

[glenferry23]

The way Lando delivered his lines really reminded me of Barry White in his Simpsons cameo. Particularly the “give her my love” and “let’s find out”, just the right balance of charm and sleaze.

 

[SM]

here’s the problem, there has to be some kind of cultural justification that new Star Wars isn’t just a wasted exposition of movie reel. So it’s now the end of the decade, so it’s very popular to lean on the side of finding reason for these decisions, as these films exist within a decade. So ok, these films do look a lot like a big budget Netflix series of Star Wars tales. There is no doubting that, but all they need to do next time is to reserve more budget costs for a writing team. You could hire the likes of kasdan, Hamil, Lucas, and so forth. Bring Raven in!

Wtf?

 

[Hai_Newman]

Babu Frik /



I have spoken...

 

[Moti]

"A map to Luke Skywalker"
"I didn't want to be found, I came here to die, *changes clothes*"

Actually the map was all the work that Luke did to find the temple, with the help of the old guy and maybe Lando? He wasn't finding it to "die" but he decided to go there after the events of Kylo at the new temple.

 

[FootyJunkie]

The way Lando delivered his lines really reminded me of Barry White in his Simpsons cameo. Particularly the “give her my love” and “let’s find out”, just the right balance of charm and sleaze.

Other than Han and Leia for a few scenes in TFA, none of the original big 4 (I'll include Lando) ever are shown on screen together in the ST (without the assistance of the force)

 

[FootyJunkie]

Was half expecting Vader's red saber to show up in the thrown room scene, it was last left there wasn't it?

 

[quotemokc]