Movie Star Wars - Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker - Spoilers and Rumors

[FootyJunkie]

Sequel trilogy should have been the Thrawn trilogy repurposed for 30 years after the OT, or a united galactic front against the Vong... What we got was some quasi attempt at OT 2.0 undoing a lot of ROTJ and just re-hashing it... the teddy bear picnic wrapped up the story too nicely after VI

In saying that, I was still mildly entertained by the trilogy, it just won't ever hold a candle to the originals

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Sequel trilogy should have been the Thrawn trilogy repurposed for 30 years after the OT, or a united galactic front against the Vong... What we got was some quasi attempt at OT 2.0 undoing a lot of ROTJ and just re-hashing it... the teddy bear picnic wrapped up the story too nicely after VI

Or a trilogy about Luke's kids with his son turning to the dark side

 

[Moti]

Or a trilogy about Luke's kids with his son turning to the dark side

They needed to do a continuation to get the SW hype back. TFA was perfect for this. Unfortunately they did a trilogy, without a plan, and it meant that they had to complete it. I think if they did standalone film to standalone film they could make adjustments without it feeling odd in parts.

They are free to do that now so the next films should be different and explore other places and species etc. It is pretty exciting for me.

 

[FootyJunkie]

Baby Yoda to a be a Teenage Sith Lord in Episode X

 

[squashface]

They needed to do a continuation to get the SW hype back. TFA was perfect for this. Unfortunately they did a trilogy, without a plan, and it meant that they had to complete it. I think if they did standalone film to standalone film they could make adjustments without it feeling odd in parts.

They are free to do that now so the next films should be different and explore other places and species etc. It is pretty exciting for me.

I agree but I do think it will be difficult to make a Star Wars movie with no reference at all to any past characters. Both JJ and RJ have talked about how much fan pressure there is to link things to the characters and events we have seen before.

I guarantee if there was a new trilogy with completely new planets and characters then there would still be a million youtube videos trying to find links to the PT, OT and ST from tiny little details that pop up.

 

[Coolangatta]

Sequel trilogy should have been the Thrawn trilogy repurposed for 30 years after the OT, or a united galactic front against the Vong... What we got was some quasi attempt at OT 2.0 undoing a lot of ROTJ and just re-hashing it... the teddy bear picnic wrapped up the story too nicely after VI

In saying that, I was still mildly entertained by the trilogy, it just won't ever hold a candle to the originals

Yep, they should've gone with this. Probably the best stories to tell post-OT. No need to recast Luke and Leia (I would've HATED that), just tweak the roles to fit the story. Maybe Luke and Leia could've played key background roles. No cheap deaths or sacrifices.

 

[Thrawn]

Abrams has delivered 2.5 hours of non stop, beautiful action and somehow managed to fix so many of the problems introduced by Last Jedi. He was handed a hot mess. People seem to be criticising him for delivering a movie that supposedly panders to original fans. In what universe is that a bad thing?

Because he could have done a LOT better, like not make Rey so Mary Sue for starters. Sounds like you enjoyed it just for the sfx/action rather than the plot/characters, which is understandable because the latter was very weak so it really couldn't be enjoyed all that much.

The Emperor: I was surprised (I don't do trailers or interviews or even look at posters before watching - I went in knowing zero) at his reappearance. But immediately it felt right. Once Johnson killed Smoke what was Abrams to do? Introduce another big bad guy? Imagine having to try to fit that in! And the visuals were STUNNING. His character design and lighting were absolutely phenomenal.

What was he to do? He could have focused on Kylo Ren for starters, why the need to make an even bigger baddie? Hell, if the cloning excuse is used then why not have a clone of Snoke instead of reintroducing a character that should be dead? I mean, they did what you're essentially describing here: bringing back another baddie.

Action sequences: Kylo's intro fight. Rey's backflip. The jump troopers. The bikes. The hallway scene. Rey Kylo force battle of the transport ship. All unreal.

The lightsaber fight in this movie was pathetic. Doesn't hold a candle to the Duel of Fates.

Retro fixing: Very little Rose. Unrequited love between Finn and Rey. The amazing effort in creating Leia. Luke catching the lightsaber and, "That's no way to treat your weapon". Explaining Smoke was simply a clone / puppet. All of these done to fix the horrendous fail of Last Jedi.

If that's a positive, then the movie fails to stand on its own. That Force ghosts can interact with the physical world - why not just kill Palpatine? Why didn't Yoda and Obi-Wan help Luke in ROTJ? It just introduces so many problems.

That's a quick list off the top of my head. Its not perfect. But to deny that there is anything good in the film I believe is to focus on the wrong stuff.

What really grinds my gears about this film is that the positives don't override that Vader's sacrifice mean nothing in the end. I'll turn your statement around and say that to deny the weaknesses of the plot is also focusing on the wrong stuff.

 

[Thrawn]

Sequel trilogy should have been the Thrawn trilogy repurposed for 30 years after the OT, or a united galactic front against the Vong... What we got was some quasi attempt at OT 2.0 undoing a lot of ROTJ and just re-hashing it... the teddy bear picnic wrapped up the story too nicely after VI

In saying that, I was still mildly entertained by the trilogy, it just won't ever hold a candle to the originals

No. They would've found a way to ruin it. And the NJO would be much better as a TV series - far too much content for it to be in three films.

 

[mighty_sainters]

Went in optimistic even after reading some of you campaigners tear apart this movie. Quite sad that so many are miserable enough these days to bother reading leaks and let themselves be influenced by a few YouTube nuffies before giving the movie a shot.

Any who, what a ride, enjoyed every moment of it. Me and my wife kept looking at each other like woah, that was ****ing cool. The visuals were stunning, that's a big part in the movie for me these days and they absolutely nailed it. My man J J Abrams delivered what would have been hard for even George Lucas to pull off IMO.

Could sit hear and critique certain parts of the movie but I don't really need to because it ended the way I wanted, going to book a ticket for next week to sit back and enjoy it one last time in the cinema before it's release to Disney+.

 

[Taylor]

or a united galactic front against the Vong

I read those books. There's no way Disney will have an enemy that fanatically self mutilates to honour their gods. To make those movies like the books they would need to be MA15+ here and R in the USA.

I remember they cut off their noses, slice the skin between all their ribs, literally attach some armour beetle to their bones through their skin with a smile to show how good they are.

Plus the first four or five movies would just be the good guys getting their arse kicked, a moon dropped on top of Chewbacca and all the ship tactics not working against their bio ships.

 

[squashface]

Went in optimistic even after reading some of you campaigners tear apart this movie. Quite sad that so many are miserable enough these days to bother reading leaks and let themselves be influenced by a few YouTube nuffies before giving the movie a shot.

Any who, what a ride, enjoyed every moment of it. Me and my wife kept looking at each other like woah, that was ******* cool. The visuals were stunning, that's a big part in the movie for me these days and they absolutely nailed it. My man J J Abrams delivered what would have been hard for even George Lucas to pull off IMO.

Could sit hear and critique certain parts of the movie but I don't really need to because it ended the way I wanted, going to book a ticket for next week to sit back and enjoy it one last time in the cinema before it's release to Disney+.

Yeah I feel like it hasn’t been discussed enough how visually stunning it was.

The aesthetics of this movie (and all of the ST for that matter) are amazing.

 

[Taylor]

The whole reason for a ground attack was to give Finn a purpose, because he hasn't impacted the plot at all since Poe got off the star destroyer.

I know I've said it before, but he is the most redundant character.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Doomcock review. Truly excellent, also because it apes pretty much my entire review

 

[Thrawn]

I thought movie was good, everything that annoyed me about it I can almost put down to the pile of crap JJ inherited from RJ.

What else was he suppose to do?

People need to realise star wars will never be Oscar worthy masterpiece, it knows what it is and its all about having fun.

The one thing that I just can't stop thinking about is what would the 3 movies be like if JJ did all 3.....

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Well, ditched some of the more weaker elements for starters and make a more cohesive plot?

It doesn't have to be Oscar-worthy to be a decent film with a plot that makes sense.

It would've been much better with JJ handling all three. Not my first choice of director, but far better than Ruin Johnson in any case.

 

[ZEV]

At least no-one had to worry about filling up with space petrol this time.

 

[Royces Hart]

I and everyone in the theater were ultimately bored and scratching foreheads

How do you know everyone else was ultimately bored?

Did you ask them? No wonder they were scratching their foreheads.

 

[Thrawn]

If I didnt care about lore/continuity, I'd like the movie more than I did. But as a standalone film it still undid itself and got crazy stupid.

If you contextualize the movie inside the whole saga, and the ST as a whole, it was all awfully cheap and nasty.

The ST is a far-cry from expanding on the PT/OT well, and TROS created its own problems just like TLJ did.

Yep. I can understand the casual liking this film, or someone who really isn't deep into the story. But for someone like you or I? Blargh.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Well I just saw it and loved it. It's not a faultless movie and I think some of the criticisms from fans like Thrawn are justified, but my immediate thought having stepped out of the cinemas was it was vast improvement on The Last Jedi, and definitely the best out of the Sequel Trilogy.

Have to say I really loved Richard E Grant's performance, REG has been a very solid and underrated actor for years, I could easily believe that General Pryde was the son of Grand Moff Tarkin, it was such a brilliant and chilling performance worthy of the great Peter Cushing.

I think they probably should have made Poe and Finn a couple myself, obviously Disney is too conservative to offend the big markets in China (that edited out all the gay scenes in Bohemian Rhapsody) and Russia/Middle East etc.

One final note, I reckon the old bag who asked Rey who she was at the end of the movie was one of Ani's old friends in The Phantom Menace when he was building his pod-racer.

 

[Thrawn]

Imagine if the ending was "I'm Rey Palpatine", you hear Palpatine's sinister laugh in the background then it fades...

 

[atlas1]

One final note, I reckon the old bag who asked Rey who she was at the end of the movie was one of Ani's old friends in The Phantom Menace when he was building his pod-racer.

Doubt it. She was 70-80 in TPM, which was 30 years before A New Hope. Rise of Skywalker is ~30 years after ANH, making her 130?

She's cactus I'm afraid.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Doubt it. She was 70-80 in TPM, which was 30 years before A New Hope. Rise of Skywalker is ~30 years after ANH, making her 130?

She's cactus I'm afraid.

Mace Windu was something like 70/80 years old in The Phantom Menace IIRC, so who knows, maybe there is greater longevity for humans in the SW universe ?

Also, I do not get some of the backlash and criticsm over Leia's death, it was always going to be difficult to write her out following Carrie Fisher's passing, and it would have been insulting to the character and memory of Carrie for Abrams to write in that she died in between The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker.

There was a delightful and unexpected number of scenes of Leia which I greatly appreciated (although the piss poor cgi of her younger self lightsabre training with Luke was embarrassing)

Giving up her entire life force to save her only son and child's (That we know of) soul, which really ****up Emperor Palpatine's plans, seemed like the most fitting way to write her character out. And yes I cried, I am a big baby I know.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Yep. I can understand the casual liking this film, or someone who really isn't deep into the story. But for someone like you or I? Blargh.

it's a disgrace really. there are hundreds of minute details, scenes, etc that shit on lore/canon and the OT. but you dont need anyone to point them all out tho, they stand out as much as TLJs mistakes did. i cant see SW being un****ed after this ST.

 

[SM]

Mace Windu was something like 70/80 years old in The Phantom Menace IIRC, so who knows, maybe there is greater longevity for humans in the SW universe ?

Also, I do not get some of the backlash and criticsm over Leia's death, it was always going to be difficult to write her out following Carrie Fisher's passing, and it would have been insulting to the character and memory of Carrie for Abrams to write in that she died in between The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker.

There was a delightful and unexpected number of scenes of Leia which I greatly appreciated (although the piss poor cgi of her younger self lightsabre training with Luke was embarrassing)

Giving up her entire life force to save her only son and child's (That we know of) soul, which really ****up Emperor Palpatine's plans, seemed like the most fitting way to write her character out. And yes I cried, I am a big baby I know.

No?

 

[ZEV]

Giving up her entire life force to save her only son and child's (That we know of) soul, which really ****up Emperor Palpatine's plans, seemed like the most fitting way to write her character out. And yes I cried, I am a big baby I know.

When I thought Chewy was blown up I almost walked out.

When Threepio made his sacrifice I was on the verge of tears.

When Leia died I couldn't have cared less at that point.

 

[SM]

When I thought Chewy was blown up I almost walked out.

When Threepio made his sacrifice I was on the verge of tears.

When Leia died I couldn't have cared less at that point.

Yeah they really played that scene terribly because not only was the pulling the ship back so incredulous, the potential for having killed Chewie made me so angry.