Movie Star Wars - Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker - Spoilers and Rumors

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Going to see it again tomorrow, so will save a lengthier review til then

For now, a few points...

Is Force Heal a dark side power? We've only seen it used by those who have tapped in to the dark side or demonstrated dark side characteristics (Baby Yoda - Force Choke, Kylo - obvious, Rey - Force Lightning). I am also thinking this because surely it would be against the way of the Jedi to interfere in the way of the force. The are playing god, if you would.

Nope, force healing is just for the light side. The only reason Kylo was able to is because he switched from dark to light.

Also to note the dark side don't turn in to force ghosts so when you saw Kylo 'disappear' you know he's definitely turned to the light side.
 
I'm not sure this is true but if you need a book to make sense of a trilogy- a ******* trilogy- then your trilogy is gigantic shit.
Disney's business model of these movies seem to be that way. Deliberately omit stuff so to make people get the books/comic/etc to understand basic facts.
 

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Lastly, this is brilliant.

Why?

Because it's the icing on the cake of a thoroughly disastrous series of films. No matter what you think of each one individually, this trilogy has been a fail, a great example of what not to do. I would not believe it if anyone told me that the trilogy is better than the PT. There's no flow, no coherency, no structure between, and an unrealistic passing of time that shrinks a setting that was previously fleshed out and realised.

Why is that good?

Because maybe now people can look back at George Lucas and think well, he gave it his best with no help. He deserves that. These films had everything going for them and still ****ed it up beyond anybody's wildest expectation. The budgets and access to talent and full support of an industry with the world's biggest studio and this is what we got. I hope everyone enjoyed making the prequels the but of every joke for the last 20 years.
 
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‘Baby Yoda’ can’t even speak yet he force heals and lifts elephants off the ground with no training. She’s a Sith Lord’s granddaughter, she could have pulled an imperial star destroyer out of the sky and I would have ticked it off.
That's nothing.

She tanked Force lightning that can destroy a fleet of thousands of capital ships. From demonstrated ability she's more powerful than Yoda, which is pretty absurd.

Do we even know how old Yoda is there? His species can live for several hundred centuries, according to the Mandalorian, it's fifty years of infancy at least. That's a lot of time to play around with raw Force powers. Not even remotely comparable.
 
It really is a shitty plot point to ''force heal''
I wonder why Vader didn't use Force heal to heal himself when Obi-Wan left him to die?

The movie just kept on pulling things out of its arse. Sure, we can give some leeway for that, but this was going far beyond.
 
I wonder why Vader didn't use Force heal to heal himself when Obi-Wan left him to die?

The movie just kept on pulling things out of its arse. Sure, we can give some leeway for that, but this was going far beyond.

Disney don't understand the force.

For every good new... you know there's really only one sorry (force bond between Kylo and Rey), they have destroyed all of it's nuance with the rest and just turned it in to magic.

If Lucas r*ped people with midichlorians, Disney has taken down to Joseph Fritzl's basement for 20 years with everything they have done.
 
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In Ep 5 Luke is struggling to do a handstand and lift a few rocks.

In Ep 6 he has to concentrate fairly hard to lift C3PO on chair in the air for a bit.

In Ep 2 Yoda uses a fair bit of effort to stop a few rocks and other objects from falling.

In this Rey is casually ******* levitating 10 meters in the air with dozens of rocks going around her in a orbit and then calmly finishes up with a floating backflip.
Honestly what the fu**.


It's basically Luke training on Dagobah except 100x more difficult and Rey does it flawlessly while Luke constantly struggled.

You are assuming that gravity is the same strength on each planet?
 
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That's nothing.

She tanked Force lightning that can destroy a fleet of thousands of capital ships. From demonstrated ability she's more powerful than Yoda, which is pretty absurd.

Do we even know how old Yoda is there? His species can live for several hundred centuries, according to the Mandalorian, it's fifty years of infancy at least. That's a lot of time to play around with raw Force powers. Not even remotely comparable.

Why is it absurd that she may be more powerful than Yoda?

Pretty self explanatory why she could be and why she seemed more advanced than luke.
 
Going to see it again tomorrow, so will save a lengthier review til then

For now, a few points...

Is Force Heal a dark side power? We've only seen it used by those who have tapped in to the dark side or demonstrated dark side characteristics (Baby Yoda - Force Choke, Kylo - obvious, Rey - Force Lightning). I am also thinking this because surely it would be against the way of the Jedi to interfere in the way of the force. The are playing god, if you would.

It's giving up a portion of the Force that naturally flows inside you to save someone else.

Does that sound like a dark side power to you?

You can't Force heal yourself for that reason. It's about restoring a deficit of energy. All the Force cares about is that the universe remains balanced.
 
It's giving up a portion of the Force that naturally flows inside you to save someone else.

Does that sound like a dark side power to you?

You can't Force heal yourself for that reason. It's about restoring a deficit of energy. All the Force cares about is that the universe remains balanced.

And yet, Obi-Wan was helpless when Qui-Gon died in his arms. What, he simply didn't know he could do that? Or did he secretly want the troubling old fella gone?
 
since when did sw call "spice" drugs that's already in Dune.

lame.

I'm not sure this is true but if you need a book to make sense of a trilogy- a ******* trilogy- then your trilogy is gigantic shit.

Uh, since ANH?
 
Although Rose Tico didn't have as much screen time her character was better used in ROS. she actually had a purpose unlike TLJ where she was just used to hold Finn's hand and tell him I love you.

What was her purpose in TROS?
 
If Rey dIed why didnt she become a force ghost?
Excellent point. Especially as Ben immediately vanished upon dying. Rey was dead for a good minute. Luke also evaporated immediately upon dying. Theres no continuity/lore with Disney. Theyre ****ing it all up.
 
Lastly, this is brilliant.

Why?

Because it's the icing on the cake of a thoroughly disastrous series of films. No matter what you think of each one individually, this trilogy has been a fail, a great example of what not to do. I would not believe it if anyone told me that the trilogy is better than the PT. There's no flow, no coherency, no structure between, and an unrealistic passing of time that shrinks a setting that was previously fleshed out and realised.

Why is that good?

Because maybe now people can look back at George Lucas and think well, he gave it his best with no help. He deserves that. These films had everything going for them and still f’ed it up beyond anybody's wildest expectation. The budgets and access to talent and full support of an industry with the world's biggest studio and this is what we got. I hope everyone enjoyed making the prequels the but of every joke for the last 20 years.

Interesting take but there's another reason this trilogy might be the blessing in disguise for the future of Star Wars. We know now that they're listening to the fans; we know they're sensitive to feedback and backlash. They knew how polarising TLJ was and they tried to salvage it. I think they made a pretty good fist of it, but out of all the mistakes they made, killing Luke in 8 and not giving Leia an epic send-off and funeral in 8 were the biggest two ones they couldn't fix.

There was no going back after that, but there's always a way forward. They would undoubtedly know that despite how divided fans are, 99% of us all agree that this new trilogy needed to be planned thoroughly from the start because it wasn't. The light at the end of the tunnel is that if they ever decide to make a new trilogy, surely it'll have more planning ahead than this one did. In other words, whatever we get should be better than their "phase 1" has been... in theory.
 

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