Movie Star Wars - Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker - Spoilers and Rumors

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Having Rey go darkside would have given Daisy Ridley a good chance to show off her acting skills even more.

I know I’m repeating myself a bit but I’m so disappointed that they didn’t go down that route
prefered it if RJ made Rey take Kylos offer in the throne room. Also imagine how different TROS wouldve been then.
 

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Sequel trilogy should have been the Thrawn trilogy repurposed for 30 years after the OT, or a united galactic front against the Vong... What we got was some quasi attempt at OT 2.0 undoing a lot of ROTJ and just re-hashing it... the teddy bear picnic wrapped up the story too nicely after VI

In saying that, I was still mildly entertained by the trilogy, it just won't ever hold a candle to the originals

Loved those books growing up. Read it now and it’s a horrible idea for a movie triolgy. A whizard in the mountain has a clone called Luuke.. then they find a bunch ships from the clone wars. Plus the space sea weed that stop Jedi from using their powers.

Thrawn was a great character but that was it.

Just got back from watching EP 9 and had low expectations. It will be the unpopular one... but that movie was epic! I was glued to the seat the whole movie and glad they went the way it did. There were a few things that annoyed me a small way but I could that for all of the movies and would find plenty to pick away at.
 
Loved those books growing up. Read it now and it’s a horrible idea for a movie triolgy. A whizard in the mountain has a clone called Luuke.. then they find a bunch ships from the clone wars. Plus the space sea weed that stop Jedi from using their powers.

Thrawn was a great character but that was it.

Just got back from watching EP 9 and had low expectations. It will be the unpopular one... but that movie was epic! I was glued to the seat the whole movie and glad they went the way it did. There were a few things that annoyed me a small way but I could that for all of the movies and would find plenty to pick away at.

I agree, they were a bit whacky and pretty inconsistent. And that is why Lucas didn't approve them.

However, I think you could adapt some of that with the likes of Rey or bring in another force user who could lead a tv series. Streaming really can assist here.
 
Star Wars back then was something we had never seen on the big screen before, thus they won Oscars for mostly visual effects and costumes which they more then deserved. Very similar to Avatar in 2010, great visually but i think we all agree wasn't a cinematic masterpiece

Speak for yourself
 
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Started watching it.

First 40 minutes has like 15 differents cuts to locations/characters. It's ridiculous. There's no room for the movie to breathe. Even TLJ had parts where it could breathe, mainly on Ach To.

And even with all this fast paced stuff and so much stuff going on, it just felt so boring. So many things happen yet theres literally no progress to anything. Palps is revealed straight away, they find the dagger pretty quick, C3PO gets his mind wiped and thats all the significant events basically. Everything else is just exposition and corny gags.

Got to about the hour mark (just after 3POs mind wipe) and stopped watching. I am pretty tired today but it was just uninteresting to me, will probably finish it another day.

I will say the first hour didn't reach the lows of TLJ. I just found it to be consistently mediocre.
 
In Ep 5 Luke is struggling to do a handstand and lift a few rocks.

In Ep 6 he has to concentrate fairly hard to lift C3PO on chair in the air for a bit.

In Ep 2 Yoda uses a fair bit of effort to stop a few rocks and other objects from falling.

In this Rey is casually ****ing levitating 10 meters in the air with dozens of rocks going around her in a orbit and then calmly finishes up with a floating backflip.
Honestly what the ****.


It's basically Luke training on Dagobah except 100x more difficult and Rey does it flawlessly while Luke constantly struggled.
 
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What would you have Rey be? Weak? She had moments of doubt. She had a weakness to being manipulated into acting impulsively and with anger when her heritage was questioned. She found out she was a Palpatine further adding fear SHE may turn. She gave up and destroyed her ship... She had emotional baggage which was her weakness. But she was incredibly strong with the force. I don't see that as an issue. And if you did, to be honest, that storyline was set up in the previous two films. What was meant to happen? She goes backwards in her development?
Weaker.

She can Force heal and do all sorts of amazing things in the Force with little training, stuff that powerful Jedi like Windu never demonstrated. It's ridiculously OP considering who she is. She hasn't had nearly the sort of setbacks and struggles as Luke did. What storyline? She has none, her heritage was introduced in the last minute - she's a bland, stale character who hasn't been fleshed out at all. "Emotional baggage" - like what? Some crying here and there? Having feelings for Kylo Ren? The problem with Rey is that she has had little setbacks and goes through problems with ease, "having doubts" isn't a weakness if you can overcome them easily. Has she even had a real setback in the trilogy? At all? Making her stronger than she was in that little timeframe was just ridiculous and further cemented her as a Mary Sue.

It went to the next level of stupid when she could block a blast that destroyed an entire fleet. Even Yoda... Yoda, for crying out loud, couldn't do that.

I didn't JUST love the visuals/sfx/action - but lets be clear. The Star Wars franchise is a series of holiday blockbusters. They are meant to have action and be amazing to look at. Jeez - an entire SFX company and ongoing standards were created by the star wars franchise. Abrams weaved cgi with location shots beautifully and there's no harm in acknowledging that.
Star Wars is meant to have an actual, coherent storyline. It has always been big on story, and the journey of characters. The problem with this movie is that it crams two movies' worth of story into two hours... that's not weaving, that's throwing cookie dough onto an oven tray. It should be more than a brainless popcorn movie.

Because it was very well established that Kylo and Rey were equals despite Kylo having years and years of more training / experience.
That's just bad writing.

I don't understand why people are upset with The Emperor returning. In the 8 films previous he was shown to be the most powerful force user in the galaxy (probably equal with Yoda). His credentials were well established and his presentation / performance was AMAZING. Bringing back Snoke as a clone would not have been as good in my opinion. And again, this was probably all caused Johnson killing Snoke.
People are upset because they rightly point out that it undermines the sacrifice and redemption of Anakin Skywalker.

We have to accept that The Last Jedi happened. Thats where we were at. So it had to be one of three choices: Kylo alone, new bad guy, or reintroduce an existing bad guy. To this stage I've not seen a proposal that would have been better than what we got.
Kylo alone would have been a lot better than ruining the OT's lore, or introducing someone new that we'd have no time to actually give an arse.

Pathetic is harsh. As good as what is pretty much declared the best lightsaber duel of the entire franchise? No. Would have liked to have seen Rey use both lightsabers - that would have been awesome.
Compared to most of the other fights, and the meaning behind them, pathetic is right.

Its a mythical story with laser swords which magically stop at a given length, space ships that bank turn and make noise in space, where people stand in spaceship hangars with no atmosphere and don't suffocate... My point? There has to be a level of suspension of disbelief and switching the brain off a little. Think too hard and the entire franchise is open to that kind of criticism.
Suspension of disbelief can only go so far, though. Just because it's scientifically inaccurate does not mean the plot had to be terrible. I don't care how much disbelief you suspend - Palpatine should have not survived the triple whammy of: being thrown into the DS reactor, the DS blowing up and crashing on Endor's moon. It's akin to Porkins suddenly ponying up at Hoth.

It doesn't at all. Vadar's sacrifice saved the galaxy at that time and saved his son's life. It also redeemed his "soul". As soon as the story didn't end - ie the Sith survived, you could argue Vadar's sacrifice was for nothing. In fact, reintroducing the Emperor is actually a very good plot device to describe why the story continued at all. If after ROTJ the Sith were all gone.... Where did Snoke come from? How did the the Order get established etc. The Emperor still being alive (whether a clone or whatever) makes all of that way more plausible.

It's funny. People bitch about the Emperor not staying dead yet on the other hand cheered when Darth Maul survived being cut in half and want him to have his own film or be reintroduced...
A good plot device? LOL get outta here. They had no better idea than bringing him back? Only reason why Palps was shoe-horned in the last minute was because Snoke was killed off, and they needed something to attract more interest to the movie - every SW fans love 'ol Palps, so a lot of people would have been intrigued how he actually survived. Oh wait, they didn't explain that. The Emperor surviving made Vader's redemption empty and hollow because Palpatine was used as a nostalgic vehicle to get bums on seats. That's all. The whole point of killing the Emperor was save the galaxy from the Sith, so Vader's actions was for nothing. It has less meaning now.

As for Maul, that's because he was at his peak and given hardly any screen time - he also had half his body in-tact rather than disintegrated. To a being like that, it's survivable. He's not a simple human; in fact he isn't human at all.
 
In Ep 5 Luke is struggling to do a handstand and lift a few rocks.

In Ep 6 he has to concentrate fairly hard to lift C3PO on chair in the air for a bit.

In Ep 2 Yoda uses a fair bit of effort to stop a few rocks and other objects from falling.

In this Rey is casually ******* levitating 10 meters in the air with dozens of rocks going around her in a orbit and then calmly finishes up with a floating backflip.
Honestly what the fu**.


It's basically Luke training on Dagobah except 100x more difficult and Rey does it flawlessly while Luke constantly struggled.
‘Baby Yoda’ can’t even speak yet he force heals and lifts elephants off the ground with no training. She’s a Sith Lord’s granddaughter, she could have pulled an imperial star destroyer out of the sky and I would have ticked it off.
 
Kylo kisses Rey and force heals her, if he body jumped then his spirit lives within Rey, maybe technically she is a sky walker now. Reylo.
 
since when did sw call "spice" drugs that's already in Dune.

lame.

I'm not sure this is true but if you need a book to make sense of a trilogy- a ****ing trilogy- then your trilogy is gigantic shit.
 
Going to see it again tomorrow, so will save a lengthier review til then

For now, a few points...

Is Force Heal a dark side power? We've only seen it used by those who have tapped in to the dark side or demonstrated dark side characteristics (Baby Yoda - Force Choke, Kylo - obvious, Rey - Force Lightning). I am also thinking this because surely it would be against the way of the Jedi to interfere in the way of the force. The are playing god, if you would.
 

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