Roast Statement on Umpires

[Hugh Jars]

Just in case people didn't realise the gulf between the two teams playing on the weekend.


North Melbourne 51 (differential between frees for and against)
West Coast 32
Geelong 20
Melbourne 12
Gold Coast 12
Fremantle 3
Essendon 1
Collingwood 0
Western Bulldogs -2
Port Adelaide -3
Sydney -4
Adelaide -4
Richmond -5
Brisbane -6
Hawthorn -10
Carlton -19
GWS -20
St Kilda -37
We have the work experience kid this week (supported by Ray Ray).

Edited post last nights match...

 

[The Punter]

And we have West Coast this week.

 

[Plugger35]

And we have West Coast this week.

Can't win can we?

I've almost come to expect that the umpires will screw us over each week it happens so often now.

Yesterday's umpiring display was as predictable as it was terrible.

 

[The Punter]

We got flogged. Didn't have the slightest effect on the result.

However, the umpires are star-f***ers - they love helping a front runner. Look at the Brownlow Medal. In 1990 Tony Liberatore won the medal with 19 votes.

Since 2004, only two medals have been won with less than 25 votes: 2005 when Ben Cousins won with 20, and Adam Cooney with 24 in 2008. The last four medals have all been won with 30 votes or more. The good players are getting recognised by the umpires more now, and it's the same with their decisions on the ground.

 

[Rors]

Anyone else notice Roberton get thrown to the ground on the Nth Melb 50m line in the 3rd quarter? The Kangaroo forward then jumps on him, holds him down, then it escalated to a wrestle....

Never understood why if a player runs up, grabs your jumper & shoves you away or flings you to the ground & initiates a wrestle that the umpires NEVER pay a holding free kick... Yet if you make a feather-touch above the neck area in the same circumstances they pay high-contact without hesitation....

In both instances, aren't both freekicks valid?

 

[The Punter]

I've paid a free kick for holding the man in a wrestle. It was two blokes having a niggle. In came a third bloke and held the other player. Pinged him.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

We got flogged. Didn't have the slightest effect on the result.

However, the umpires are star-f***ers - they love helping a front runner. Look at the Brownlow Medal. In 1990 Tony Liberatore won the medal with 19 votes.

Since 2004, only two medals have been won with less than 25 votes: 2005 when Ben Cousins won with 20, and Adam Cooney with 24 in 2008. The last four medals have all been won with 30 votes or more. The good players are getting recognised by the umpires more now, and it's the same with their decisions on the ground.

I no longer care about Brownlows.
a) Good/fair players become ineligible for innocuous acts.
b) The votes are determined by people who have demonstrated themselves not to be noticing half the crap that goes on. They certainly aren't ( or shouldn't be ) in a position to determine who is playing best.

 

[Persevering Saint]

Honestly, I'd like either the Players' or Coaches' voting awards to be honoured more highly than the Brownlow. Won't happen (too much wag skimp at the Brownlow now for the TV networks to resist ), but yeah.

 

[Mat Mann]

Honestly, I'd like either the Players' or Coaches' voting awards to be honoured more highly than the Brownlow. Won't happen (too much wag skimp at the Brownlow now for the TV networks to resist ), but yeah.

its just got to be taken out of the umpires hands, they've proven now, more than ever, that they've got no clue.

i'm don't think the Coaches should have the vote and it'd be bloody hard to organise for the players to vote, so it'd have to come down to Media, and when you've got so many ex players, current players, Management affiliated types in the media, surely that'd introduce a whole raft of issues as well. Imagine BT having a say in the brownlow votes, 3 votes - Me(BT) 2 votes - Grant Thomas's garage, 1 vote - all those plebs down past Lorne without power ( what-a-flog you are BT ). just don't see a viable alternative.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

its just got to be taken out of the umpires hands, they've proven now, more than ever, that they've got no clue.

i'm don't think the Coaches should have the vote and it'd be bloody hard to organise for the players to vote, so it'd have to come down to Media, and when you've got so many ex players, current players, Management affiliated types in the media, surely that'd introduce a whole raft of issues as well. Imagine BT having a say in the brownlow votes, 3 votes - Me(BT) 2 votes - Grant Thomas's garage, 1 vote - all those plebs down past Lorne without power ( what-a-flog you are BT ). just don't see a viable alternative.

The Brownlows are OK to honour a good player, but anyone who goes down the track of "player x" is better than "player y" because he won a Brownlow is way off track. Its being good that wins the brownlow , but winning the brownlow doesn't make you good.

 

[stkildathunda]

‏@LuffG0305 21m
(2011-2013) West Coast +214 frees next best Port +112. Saints 18th -83

 

[Rors]

‏@LuffG0305 21m
(2011-2013) West Coast +214 frees next best Port +112. Saints 18th -83

That is outrageous

Most certainly not a level playing field

 

[FlyingSledghamer]

‏@LuffG0305 21m
(2011-2013) West Coast +214 frees next best Port +112. Saints 18th -83

Their the most experianced knee droppers in the league. But I thought the umpires called play on a lot tonight when they could have blown the whistle. This bays going crazy with umpire bashing right now, I just can't blame that loss on umpiring.

 

[Plugger35]

This video sums up my thoughts on the umpiring after today.



Robert Muir lol.

Mad dog.

 

[Sheeza69]

This video sums up my thoughts on the umpiring after today.



Robert Muir lol.

Mad dog.

His cousin down Bentleigh way, still proudly wears the number 32 on the back of his wheelchair..
I never missed a game at Moorabbin between 73 & 90....the memories..!!
Who can forget when he whacked Denis Collins of Carlton right near the animal enclosure..lol

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

By the end of the game I think every saints fan there wanted the umpires blood. The club should demand a very very loud please explain from the league.

 

[Plugger35]

His cousin down Bentleigh way, still proudly wears the number 32 on the back of his wheelchair..
I never missed a game at Moorabbin between 73 & 90....the memories..!!
Who can forget when he whacked Denis Collins of Carlton right near the animal enclosure..lol

Robbie Muir was before my time as a Saints supporter but he's part of St Kilda folklore.

Never saw a game at Moorabbin as I live in Perth and was just a youngster back then.

Would've loved to have been at Moorabbin for the Winmar to Lockett show, two players that turned young Plugger35 in to a Saints supporter.



TISM even wrote a song about them, they were that good.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

We need to demand a please explain form the AFL and next time it happens we need to take Legal Action against the AFL and the Umpires department.

 

[DT_35]

No one has the balls to do it anyway, it's been happening for months now and no one has done anything about it!

 

[goodie23]

By the end of the game I think every saints fan there wanted the umpires blood. The club should demand a very very loud please explain from the league.

Seconded. This bias has gone too far and we should start making noise.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

This. LOL

Hey if the umpiring department was in an ordinary work place they would be Sacked at the very least and investigated for corruption at worst. Just give a threat of Legal action will get them suddenly improving.

 

[Superduperouzel]

His cousin down Bentleigh way, still proudly wears the number 32 on the back of his wheelchair..
I never missed a game at Moorabbin between 73 & 90....the memories..!!
Who can forget when he whacked Denis Collins of Carlton right near the animal enclosure..lol

Should have unleashed Mad Dog on the umpires today.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

Should have unleashed Mad Dog on the umpires today.

and Big Carl

 

[Gogeelong]

what crap
i could not believe the slaughter by the umpires.
lop sided to the extent that it was too obvious.
50/50 means just that, no feel for the game
made me feel sick for St Kilda supporters

 

[Defacto]

Hey if the umpiring department was in an ordinary work place they would be Sacked at the very least and investigated for corruption at worst. Just give a threat of Legal action will get them suddenly improving.

whilst we are taking hand outs from the AFL and potentially looking at a priority pick next year, there is absolutely no way were going to upset the AFL with the threat of legal action