Roast Statement on Umpires

[FlyingSledghamer]

same old shit

 

[Hubnester]

If he hasn't had an anerysm, I can't wait to see Plugger's post on the disgusting display tonight.

I honestly used to think I was just thinking with a biased view and lived with it... but this is happening far too much to just be a coincidence. Making it really hard to watch football these days.

 

[DT_35]

14.50 in the last qtr...Sippa has a free kick. Daisy runs from behind Sippa, about 2 meters away from him, with his arms in tha air, calling for play on. He runs to the Collingwood player on the mark, now they have 2 on the mark....and still no 50. Can someone please explain the difference between this and Saunders 50 for encroaching in the 1st qtr (where Saunders actually veered away from the restricted zone)?
It seems like all the 50/50 decisions go against us at the most inopportune times...especially in our defence

Who knows mate, it's a joke. Consistency doesn't exist in AFL.

I remember in the 2nd, Cloke got tackled and dropped the ball, play on and Krak kicks a goal. Nek possession Saad does exactly the same and it's paid.

The mark that wasn't paid to Roo was a farce as well. Pretty much killed all momentum we had. I've seen less been paid marks but not for us.

 

[Persevering Saint]

Did you hear Geary when he was pinged for in the back... In the forward 50... Which resulted in a goal?

"That's embarrassing..."

It's shameful, is what it is, Gears.

 

[Plugger35]

Umpires stepped up to win the game for Collingwood in the 2nd half, no surprise.

The WWE has more integrity than the AFL.

Kildonan Squizzy1970 can you bring this up with Chief at the next moderators meeting, bad enough with good honest Saints players being persecuted by the umpires without good honest Saints posters like myself being persecuted for speaking the truth.

 

[Kildonan]

Plugger we don't have much influence outside our board. We can vouch for you but the fact is that posters and mods alike don't put much thought or consideration into umpiring travesties because they believe it will all even out in the end.

In our heyday we could win matches despite the umpiring. Now we are getting beaten. It may be that umpiring decisions are the difference in some matches. We have to improve to overcome this problem. We need to play better so these these decisions don't become the difference between winning and losing the match and we need to not give away so many free kicks - don't give the umpires the opportunity to give free kicks against us - especially in crucial positions.

We saw that a number of our youth have played in matches where decisions have cruelled us. In fact several of these kids have been the culprits responsible for 50's or frees in front of opposition goal. These are often 50:50 decisions involving kids - you'd think the umps would just let a few slip - but no. And maybe that's a good thing. If the kids learn the harsh reality of how the world works (that umpires react to crowd noise as much as to the player infractions they see thereby favouring home teams of interstate clubs and the larger clubs) These kids will, by necessity, be more careful in the contest and in tackles giving away fewer frees in the future.

 

[Plugger35]

It doesn't even out for us though, we've been screwed so many times the last year or so it's not even funny.

I get called a serial whinger about umpiring but that's because we get screwed almost every goddamn week.

I know I kick up a stink about it but that's because I love St Kilda and hate seeing us get screwed, people think I do it for attention or to troll when it's just honesty.

 

[Kildonan]

It frustrates us all, mate.
Watching footy on the TV my son and I rise and fall in unison in response to umpiring decisions we don't agree with. We both interpret decisions rationally and even call for the same frees when it is other clubs playing. The passion level rises when it is the Saints of course and we get annoyed when there is a trend to overlook frees to the Saints that are given to the opposition. It ruins our viewing pleasure almost as much as not winning.

The big clubs don't realise they are getting favouritism because they always have the numerical superiority in the crowd voice to influence the umpires.
It is those times when a 50:50 decision is being made that the crowd influence is greatest. The same incident without such voluminous crowd noise is paid less frequently. It sucks.

I don't see a solution to the problem without simply being so good that we allow for the umpire bias to effectively reduce our winning margin.

 

[The Finger]

That free against Geary was the single worst free kick Ive seen in a game. For both impact as it was a goal and the fact they refused to pay far worse to Dal Santo moments later.

 

[sauce_head]

It's not really the umpires fault, well it is but the afl rule committee just need to leave the bloody rules alone for a while.

 

[Plugger35]

That free against Geary was the single worst free kick Ive seen in a game. For both impact as it was a goal and the fact they refused to pay far worse to Dal Santo moments later.

Yeah it's crap like that which just smacks of bias, not incompetence, bias and cheating from umpires.

Glad Geary called that prick out on it too.

Collingwood were allowed to get tackled and drop the ball all night and it was play on, our players do the same thing and the umpires can't blow their whistles quick enough to pay a holding the ball free.

Just look at the 3rd quarter, Cloke tackled and swung around 360 and drops it, an obvious holding the ball, ignored and play on and Collingwood got a goal from it. A few minutes later Saad is tackled in our F50 with no prior and the ball spills out, holding the ball free and Collingwood bailed out of trouble again thanks to the umpires.

Just disgraceful, pathetic bias.

 

[glasseye]

just to put in; I thought you were hard done by on a couple too. Those interference 50 m penalties were a bit off. Mind you we copped it badly against Essendon last week so it might have been an even up. Bottom line is they influence the outcome too often.

 

[SaintLex]

Umpire appreciation round... what a joke...

 

[Plugger35]

just to put in; I thought you were hard done by on a couple too. Those interference 50 m penalties were a bit off. Mind you we copped it badly against Essendon last week so it might have been an even up. Bottom line is they influence the outcome too often.

Every team gets evened up against us.

I wish I had a dollar for every opposition supporter that says they usually get screwed by the umpires and their game against St Kilda was the best run they've had with the umpires in ages.

Shame we never get evened up against anyone with a good run.

 

[couldhavebeen]

Who knows mate, it's a joke. Consistency doesn't exist in AFL.

I remember in the 2nd, Cloke got tackled and dropped the ball, play on and Krak kicks a goal. Nek possession Saad does exactly the same and it's paid.

The mark that wasn't paid to Roo was a farce as well. Pretty much killed all momentum we had. I've seen less been paid marks but not for us.

That incident with Cloke dropping the ball in the tackle almost cost me a new T.V.
It was so obvious a blind dog could see it and that was a 12 point turn around just there .

You guys where right in it up until that incident then they seem to have dropped off just a little and game over .
WTF is wrong with Kosi .

 

[Defacto]

That incident with Cloke dropping the ball in the tackle almost cost me a new T.V.
It was so obvious a blind dog could see it and that was a 12 point turn around just there .

You guys where right in it up until that incident then they seem to have dropped off just a little and game over .
WTF is wrong with Kosi .

yet down the other end they pinged roo for holding the ball when he had no time to get rid of it and had both arms pinged

 

[couldhavebeen]

yet down the other end they pinged roo for holding the ball when he had no time to get rid of it and had both arms pinged

The TV was just lucky it wasn't Freo playing or it was a dead goner

My St Kilda mate was having to have Anger Management applied while in the straight jacket or the house was gunna come down.

 

[Sheeza69]

Watching the North/Port game, Thompson ducks into Monfries front on tackle & isn't deemed holding the ball.

Time & time again we've seen this year St.Kilda pinged for either holding the ball/or incorrect disposal, & it was on display last night once again.

Watters & Co surely open the communication lines with Gieschen first thing Monday morning, & provide a highlight package of the dubious decisions that have gone against us, or blatantly missed..!

There's a lack of respect for the ST.KFC eminating from the umps on a weekly basis, & it's time we draw a line in the sand..!

If only Demetriou was up in arms about the standard of umpiring we've copped, as he is about the clubs questioning the Bombers legitimacy eh..??

 

[sauce_head]

Umpire appreciation round... what a joke...

Yeah, seriously, who wants to hear what some f-wit thiks before he bounces the ball? It bad enough the have friggin' nicknames. Even the commentators were asking the question in the first quarter (the only q I have watched with sound - so far).

 

[Plugger35]

It's time to rise up brothers and take a stand against this bullshit.

 

[The Punter]

There was one on Friday night where Geary tackled a player on the ground. It was clear that Geary was making an effort to avoid any contact on the back of the player, not just avoiding creating a force in the players back. It was called a push in the back.

Is this the one everyone was talking about?

There is only one way to tackle a player who is on the ground on his stomach - you have to tackle them from behind. Seems the interpretation this year is not so much a push in the back as it is contact to the back. And Geary didn't even do that.

That and Ahmed Saad seems to be the only bloke who gets pinged for being in the protected area.

 

[Squizz]

There was one on Friday night where Geary tackled a player on the ground. It was clear that Geary was making an effort to avoid any contact on the back of the player, not just avoiding creating a force in the players back. It was called a push in the back.

Is this the one everyone was talking about?

There is only one way to tackle a player who is on the ground on his stomach - you have to tackle them from behind. Seems the interpretation this year is not so much a push in the back as it is contact to the back. And Geary didn't even do that.

That and Ahmed Saad seems to be the only bloke who gets pinged for being in the protected area.

The umpire was stooged with the Geary one.

Pendlebury went the knee-buckle initially. Gears did well.

Then Pendlebury effectively did a push up into Geary and lifted him off the ground!

And I loved the consistency. Nice piece of Howdy Doody at the back there ... but everyone knows Kosi doesn't have a "protected zone".

FFS - how can an umpire not pay that??? Forget 5m - that's less than 2m!!!

 

[The Punter]

As I said, I thought the free kick was for a push in the back. If there is no force applied (and it's not a marking contest, where the mere presence of hands constitutes an offense), there should not be a free kick.

 

[Half Back Pocket]

The umpire was stooged with the Geary one.

Pendlebury went the knee-buckle initially. Gears did well.

Then Pendlebury effectively did a push up into Geary and lifted him off the ground!

And I loved the consistency. Nice piece of Howdy Doody at the back there ... but everyone knows Kosi doesn't have a "protected zone".

FFS - how can an umpire not pay that??? Forget 5m - that's less than 2m!!!

That's the one Squizz, thanks for posting. Every day of the week that's 50 metres...we should be having a shot from 20 metres out. Just like Cloke in the 1st Quarter.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

The umpire was stooged with the Geary one.

Pendlebury went the knee-buckle initially. Gears did well.

Then Pendlebury effectively did a push up into Geary and lifted him off the ground!

I would suggest that our coaches should be instructing our players that when tackled drop to your knees and then do a push up.