Stokes' open letter (Geelong website)

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This would be funny if it wasnt so sad. As someone who does work with the NT Justice System, and has for many years, l can state that your statement is completely untrue. In fact it is the opposite of the truth. Indigenous people are so grossly over-represented in the Australian prison population it is a national tragedy - Indigenous people represent 24% of the Australian prison population despite only being 2.5% of the Australian population. An Indigenous person is 14 times more likely than a non-Indigenous person to be locked up in Australia.

"You can;t touch them" hardly seems an accurate characterisation.... 1 month of relevant experience or 5 mins of decent research would provide an understanding of that.
It was not meant to be funny, I don't know about NT but try living in Nth Vic or Sth NSW. The Aboriginal population here are untouchable and I dont need to research it or read silly stats, as I said I deal with it on a weekly basis.
 
Like any letter written or read by an AFL player or official it is not from their heart. It is a politically correct feel good letter to include the word (kids, Family and sorry)

It is written for them by a professional employed to write it for them.

Water off a ducks back,

I got no issue with Stokes, in fact I hope he gets back playing asap.

but anyone who believes a word any AFL player or official says these days as being truly from them is caught up in lala land.


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To be honest I am so totally over this crap where players are put out in a public forum to receive a whipping to appease some members of the public. The guy stuffed up, he went to court, he received his punishment why he then has to justify or apologise for his behaviour to anyone other than to those within the confines of the GFC that he works with on a daily basis is beyond me. If this was you or I and our employer made us write a letter and post it on the website the civil libertarians would be having a field day about the invasion of our privacy yet obviously guys who play football for christsake are denied the same rights - defies belief really.
 

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I hope he gets on with life and gets his career in back on track.
If this happened at West Coast (because of their record) the AFL would have thrown the book at them.
He got off the charge, fair enough the club cant do much because the legal system has different rules for different people. I know I will get reemed for this (playing the race card) but anyone who has anything to do with the legal system will know (and I see it all the time on a weekly basis) if you have an Aboriginal background the court will go easier on you.
Before anyone comes back with their ill informed replies, speak to someone in law enforcement and I can assure you their answer will be "you can't touch them". That is just the way it is, society wants what society wants.
I hope Mathew got the fright of his life, learns from this and makes better choices in the future.

Yeah mate thats why the jails are full of Aboriginals. Every study ever done on incarceration rates shows Aboriginals are massively over-represented in the prison system and are far more likely to be jailed than a white person for a similar crime.
But don't let the facts get in the way of you and your racist cop mates racist attitudes.
 
The charge of trafficking was. He was still charged with possession... and subsequently given the penalty of good behaviour bond. So he still has a criminal conviction on his record.

He wasn't convicted.

There's a big difference. People should educate themselves before posting.
 
It is an absolute joke he is allowed to return to football this year.

Frankly I couldn't give two hoots about any PR driven apology.

Like all such apologies, he's sorry only because he got caught.

JeffDunne part time ruling judge, you are nothing more than an irritating, annoying & over opinionated fool, who rarely has anything constructive to say about any subject or topic on Big Footy. I see you nothing less than BF serial pest & in your own words you are " an absolute joke " & strongly suggest rather than Stokesy not be allowed to return to football this year, that you be benched from BF until you grow up, heaven forbid we may never hear from you again.
 
Perfectly written PR apology. I bet they have these pre-written in the top drawer.

The bloke should cop a club suspension and that's it. Any calls for him to be suspended for a year are insanely over the top.

And I can guarantee you he doesn't believe the bit at the end where he says "when it comes to drugs, there is no good" The bloke - like millions of other sensible people - just wants the right to put whatever he chooses into his own body, not a massively unreasonable request.

Got caught, publish apology, move on...
 
Yeah mate thats why the jails are full of Aboriginals. Every study ever done on incarceration rates shows Aboriginals are massively over-represented in the prison system and are far more likely to be jailed than a white person for a similar crime.
But don't let the facts get in the way of you and your racist cop mates racist attitudes.
Yeah fella you continue to read studies that are done, im far from racist and I would love for you to get your political correct head out of the sand and come out with me for one weekend and see with your own eyes. They fck up we bring them in and within an hour they have an elder or a rep with them and we have to let them go.
But don't let the facts get in the way of your study.
 
Personally, I don't think the AFL's drug policy is working. I think they need to get tougher. Anyone remember the movie "Full Metal Jacket", when private Pile kept screwing up, the drill sargent took it out on the rest of the platoon. The AFL needs to do something similar. If you're caught using drugs, then we take it out on your entire team. We take premiership points. And if you're caught after winning a flag, then we take that too. Let see how many players want to risk getting caught then, and how many team mates will stand by watching, saying "none of my business".
 
The only difference is the quality of the lawyer he employed. Guilty is guilty, no matter which way you slice it.

No. The trafficking charge was ridiculous to start with. A conviction would have set a massive precedence.

Do you realise that a shitload of assault and other serious offences go without conviction?

A conviction is serious, it stays with you for life. Do you people seriously think that Stokes should have been convicted of 'trafficking' 1 gram of coke? Or maybe you think he should be convicted for possessing one gram?

Get off your ****ing high horses, keyboard warriors.

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I think the point the above posters are trying to make to you are - He was guilty of possession.

You cannot deny that but you seem to be using the 'conviction' line to dodge the facts.

He was guilty buddy, let it go and move on. It's kinda impossible for you to defend that fact on a technicality.
 
That's true. But tell me next time you see him play you won't think of the case or that seedy moustache?


Yer maybe, for this season. But you soon forget such trivial matters.


Every time I see G.Ablett Snr on tv I think of that girl in the hotel room.


Now that's a serious issue.


Stokes' is just minor..imo
 
The massive backflip from Geelong supporters is not suprising.
Wind back to 2007 to see how many self righteous Cats fans there was on Big Footy.
But i suppose WC were the premiership favourites so the agenda of Geelong fans was different...Bit like the Vic media hey
 
No. The trafficking charge was ridiculous to start with. A conviction would have set a massive precedence.

Do you realise that a shitload of assault and other serious offences go without conviction?

A conviction is serious, it stays with you for life. Do you people seriously think that Stokes should have been convicted of 'trafficking' 1 gram of coke? Or maybe you think he should be convicted for possessing one gram?

Get off your ****ing high horses, keyboard warriors.

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Fair to say that picture sums up your post pretty well lol
 
The massive backflip from Geelong supporters is not suprising.
Wind back to 2007 to see how many self righteous Cats fans there was on Big Footy.
But i suppose WC were the premiership favourites so the agenda of Geelong fans was different...Bit like the Vic media hey


chippity chip chip chiparoo.

I've been to W.A a fair few times in the past few years and the W.A media is 10x more biased then the Vic media. You can't even open a paper or turn on a TV with out somebody masturbating over W.A players.

I absolutely agree if Stokes played the Eagles shit would have hit the fan more but don't accuse 'Vic media'.
 
I wonder how Ben Cousins feels about the comparitively light treatment (by the media, his club and the league) that Stokes has received for his indiscretions.
Comparitively light? How many weeks did West Coast suspend Cousins for when they found out he had a drug problem? Not when he got arrested, but when they first found out.
 
Comparitively light? How many weeks did West Coast suspend Cousins for when they found out he had a drug problem? Not when he got arrested, but when they first found out.



OMG:eek: You are not seriously comparing the treatment given to Stokes (buggar all) and that of Cousins...Do you get the news in the sticks or are all of Geelong as clueless as you...
 
i think the point the above posters are trying to make to you are - he was guilty of possession.

You cannot deny that but you seem to be using the 'conviction' line to dodge the facts.

He was guilty buddy, let it go and move on. It's kinda impossible for you to defend that fact on a technicality.

icbf.
 
chippity chip chip chiparoo.

I've been to W.A a fair few times in the past few years and the W.A media is 10x more biased then the Vic media. You can't even open a paper or turn on a TV with out somebody masturbating over W.A players.

I absolutely agree if Stokes played the Eagles shit would have hit the fan more but don't accuse 'Vic media'.


Complete drivel !!!!! It just seems less bias because there are more teams in Victoria. Just another spoon fed Victorian twit who thinks that drugs was the agenda of the Vic media and not because WC were the reigning premiers and a Vic team hadnt won the flag in 6 years.:eek:

Tell me how the Vic media reported WC's flag in 2006 ????
A bitter frenzy because some Eagle players forgot to shake the little kiddies hands...yeah the vic media are not bitter and biased at all:rolleyes:
 

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