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Fox is the interesting one,may be one who goes out as players return, seems not to have a position
I love Fox as sub.

I know someone on here who watches Fox closer than me says he doesn’t play great as sub. But call me old fashioned, I want a sub who can cover whoever is going off, more than make an impact - and Fox can play almost every position moderately well. Fox as sub means we can keep our structures. Plus he is fast so there is still that chance to make an impact if it does click for him.
 
I love Fox as sub.

I know someone on here who watches Fox closer than me says he doesn’t play great as sub. But call me old fashioned, I want a sub who can cover whoever is going off, more than make an impact - and Fox can play almost every position moderately well. Fox as sub means we can keep our structures. Plus he is fast so there is still that chance to make an impact if it does click for him.


Also think maturity can help as sub and he has that
 
On the resting question, the club can also cut back on training sessions, which Longmire has already referenced is now in his plans.

Gicen the taxing way all Longmire teams play, I really think they should look to switch to very minimal endurance and strength training in the last third of seasons. Focus mostly (or even purely) on skills and recovery. I know all teams do this somewhat already, but I think the swans need to do it more.

The big three did it in tennis and their careers outlasted the next generation of players that were supposed to follow - so why can’t it work for us mid season?

If we do rest players from actual game time, I’d prefer we go in hard this week and then look at resting a bunch of players for the Adelaide game. I reckon for some players a two week break might be easier to return from than a one week break, so you could potentially reverse the slowdown that can happen post bye while really freshening players up for the finals campaign.

One final thought, on all matters of training and resting, I would pay much more attention to what the players say than the sports scientists. I watched sport scientists ruin the wallabies by turning them all into gym junkies. They’d run out against the All Blacks and sometimes look like they had double the muscle mass, only to promptly show that being able to play rugby was far more important. Skills >>>>> gym!
 

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I love Fox as sub.

I know someone on here who watches Fox closer than me says he doesn’t play great as sub. But call me old fashioned, I want a sub who can cover whoever is going off, more than make an impact - and Fox can play almost every position moderately well. Fox as sub means we can keep our structures. Plus he is fast so there is still that chance to make an impact if it does click for him.
To my way of thinking there are four kinds of subs:

1) Jack of all trades. This is Fox. Plug a hole for you or allow you to shuffle with minimal disruption. Play a number of roles.

2) Attacking. Someone you bring on to tear it up like Parker did against North or if you used Papley say. Impact player.

3) Specialist. If you have a gun player who won't last the distance and you want to replace like with like. Very rare.

4) Team member. Someone who would be in the team if you had 5 on the bench. This is what we mostly pick. CoWarner, Mitchell, Cleary, Wicks, Roberts. Not impact players, just playing a role.

I wish we had an impact player but I guess we'd pick them in the 22 if they were that good.
 
Some of the results were a bit unfortunate this weekend, as it does leave the door open for Essendon.

But also, it's Essendon and finals are potentially on the line, so we should win by 10+ goals.

Despite how poor we've been for 2 months, if we can win this comfortably, I'll (regrettably) start to be bullish about our chances again.
 
The bookies have no idea either
How many bookies go broke ? Not many. They hire maths savants and scrutineer every form line before putting up a market. The ultimate purveyors of probability.

They have spoken. We are favourites for a reason.

They also kept us as second favourites after a 112 point drubbing.
They know what some of us know, that when it matters most the swans will go faster for longer.

Yours in speed, JHWF.
 

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How many bookies go broke ? Not many. They hire maths savants and scrutineer every form line before putting up a market. The ultimate purveyors of probability.

They have spoken. We are favourites for a reason.

They also kept us as second favourites after a 112 point drubbing.
They know what some of us know, that when it matters most the swans will go faster for longer.

Yours in speed, JHWF.

The bookies dont go broke because they take into account how much ppl have put on a particular bet and decrease/increase odds accordingly

Wouldnt take bookies as any indication theyre just there to make $$$
 
What an odd round.

As of now, we are once again the flag favourites.

Which is quite remarkable. Every team is doing their best to fall over.
There's no way we are flag favourites. We're limping into seasons end and hoping for another win so we get a home final.
 
There's no way we are flag favourites. We're limping into seasons end and hoping for another win so we get a home final.

No one is comfortably better than us and with the bye coming up we will get players back and a much needed breather.

We should still be at least equal favourites if only because no one else is banging the door down. It was Brisbane only a week ago (who we should have defeated) and Carlton not long ago and they’ll be lucky to make the finals.


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Lovely to hear all the Melbourne media panicking because week 1 of the finals might not feature a game at the MCG.

In fact, there might be no game at the MCG until the GF.
If that actually happens, then someone is going to have to convince me that I haven't died and gone to nirvana!
 
Lovely to hear all the Melbourne media panicking because week 1 of the finals might not feature a game at the MCG.

In fact, there might be no game at the MCG until the GF.
I reckon Cats finish 2nd, Dogs 5th, Hawks 6th so there's a good chance of 2 opening week.

Syd (win 1, lose 1)
Geel
Bris
GWS
WB
Hawks
Port
Carl

If Port play like they did even before injuries the other night, they're losing to Crows and a desperate Freo (if Saints or Eagles upset Carlton, which is a possibility). Even if they win 1, Cats still 2nd.
 
OUT: Mills, Cleary, Grundy (rested)
IN: Sheldrick, Melican, Ladhams


Adams to be the sub. Mills can get a full game in the midfield in the 2s
Grundy rested from all footy in the interests of our finals campaign.
 
If Port play like they did even before injuries the other night, they're losing to Crows and a desperate Freo (if Saints or Eagles upset Carlton, which is a possibility). Even if they win 1, Cats still 2nd.

Adelaide always beat them or close to it in Showdowns anyway and Rankine back is massive, almost have Adelaide as favourites. Ditto WCE will thump Carlton.
 
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