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The biggest factor for the form turnaround of the teams coming good in the finals is the return of private school players.
 
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Did anyone see Daniel Currie aka "Crusher" aka "Donkey's" spectacular mark in the last quarter yesterday on the wing. His elevation height would have been around the 5-6 metre mark and the crowd erupted when he pulled down the Ablett-like mark
 
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A Little Leverage 4 Jezza said:
but North Ballarat played 3 games in Melbourne for the year and most of their away games were at a neutral ground. So when a team has to play a couple of finals in a row in Melbourne it must be very difficult.
I don't really think that the travelling is a factor for the country teams, they are used to travelling every week. I know some of the Gippsland kids and North Ballarat kids can have up to and sometimes more than, 2 hours travelling just to get to a home game and training, yet only 1 1/2 hours to get to a Melbourne game.
 

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One thing I haven't been too happy with over the last fortnight has been the use of tags by the Chargers. Whether they've used close "run with roles" or "tags" may be debatable but the aim of this competition is development and showcasing players as much as it is winning and I thought that coaches and clubs were instructed that shadowing opponents out of the game is not permitted.
 
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I reckon Bert Simms will get drafted he has the ears of Nathan Buckley, the teeth of Ricciuto, the hair of Daniel Chick and the back of Matthew Bate.

COMPLETE PACKAGE.

HOLLER!
 
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footyman said:
One thing I haven't been too happy with over the last fortnight has been the use of tags by the Chargers. Whether they've used close "run with roles" or "tags" may be debatable but the aim of this competition is development and showcasing players as much as it is winning and I thought that coaches and clubs were instructed that shadowing opponents out of the game is not permitted.

Certainly pushing the spirit of the comp. I am not completely sure of the guidelines but I think it is something like only ever have a couple and don't use the same players over and over again.

Certainly hasn't helped Lachlan Carey's borderline chances of being taken late, might even cost him a rookie list spot. Unless of course a club is paying close attention.

I suppose tagging isn't that much worse than extra-defenders. Same principle of not letting kids show their talents. Geelong and North Ballarat (Falcons in particular) were piling men back. At one stage the Falcons had 3-4 extra men back in a mini-flood.
 
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philhawk said:
Could there be any players in the TAC who, like Dale Thomas last year, could really see their draft stock elevated after a big finals?

The TAC finals, especially the Grand Final, is the showcase that the recruiters look really seriously at.

If you have a look at the TAC Premiership sides since the competition started, a large percentage, compared to other clubs that year, get drafted from that winning side, in either that year or the year after for the younger guys.
 
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Bengal Tiger said:
The TAC finals, especially the Grand Final, is the showcase that the recruiters look really seriously at.

If you have a look at the TAC Premiership sides since the competition started, a large percentage, compared to other clubs that year, get drafted from that winning side, in either that year or the year after for the younger guys.

Could that simply be 'cause and effect'. The better teams have the better kids and as a result have a good chance to win the flag.

This year it might be interesting with Oakleigh and Northern Knights having solid TEAMS, but no real AFL standouts. Most are late picks or rookies at best I would have thought.
 
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Sezzac1 said:
Could that simply be 'cause and effect'. The better teams have the better kids and as a result have a good chance to win the flag.

That's a good point Sezzac. I think the recruiters focus on the national champs and the finals to see how the 'likely' players handle the pressure of big games.

The TAC team bosses also understand that getting into the finals gives their kids a better chance of getting drafted, if they perform.
 
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footyman said:
One thing I haven't been too happy with over the last fortnight has been the use of tags by the Chargers. Whether they've used close "run with roles" or "tags" may be debatable but the aim of this competition is development and showcasing players as much as it is winning and I thought that coaches and clubs were instructed that shadowing opponents out of the game is not permitted.

Interesting someone has come up with this. I know that Code and Grbac are not going to be sending Xmas cards to woosha welsh anytime soon. Knights V Cannons will be a fast game. Both sides know each other well as does both coaching groups. Cant see Oakleigh getting away with their 'tactics' against Gippsland. I think the Power will smash them. I think Calder might sneak over the line against Knights only due to being more rested. They also really want to send Hyde out on a big note- Grand Final Day at the 'G'.
 
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foj1 said:
Cant see Oakleigh getting away with their 'tactics' against Gippsland. I think the Power will smash them.
I agree with you there, last time they played, Oakleigh only just won really in the last quarter and both Ryan and Hansen were not playing. I'm sure the coaches will be better prepared this time around.
 
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the G train #9 said:
Did anyone see Daniel Currie aka "Crusher" aka "Donkey's" spectacular mark in the last quarter yesterday on the wing. His elevation height would have been around the 5-6 metre mark and the crowd erupted when he pulled down the Ablett-like mark


Yeah i saw it mate, unbelieveably high mark, donkey flew and your ablett comparison is good. I also saw Trent Cotchin replicate Ashley Sampi a couple of years ago on to drop what wouldve been the mark of the year for sure. The crowd erupted when D Currie flew and from where i was everyone seemed to yell "DONKEYYYYYYYYY".
 

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EBERT THE KING said:
The crowd erupted when D Currie flew and from where i was everyone seemed to yell "DONKEYYYYYYYYY".

I think you and that G train bloke better cut out this donkey crap, its giving the poor kid a bad name and reputation surely.
 
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philhawk said:
Could there be any players in the TAC who, like Dale Thomas last year, could really see their draft stock elevated after a big finals?

Ben Ross seems an exciting player who I imagine might light up the big stage. McAffer if he kicks a bag.
 
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Chandra said:
Ben Ross seems an exciting player who I imagine might light up the big stage. McAffer if he kicks a bag.

Yes i agree chandra, plays similar in a way to thomas and has a lot of same skills just isnt as yet a bigger name. with a good couple of finals like thomas had could see him become a lot higher rated.

Macaffer is great to watch cant drop a mark
 
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Trent Cotchin and Adamm Maric will enjoy the spotlight as VERY promising 16 year olds. The Cannons have an enigmatic player called Matthew O'Dwyer who is capable of the unbelievable. I hope Gippsland start Hansen forward as I cant see anyone at Oakleigh holding him.
 
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foj1 said:
Trent Cotchin and Adamm Maric will enjoy the spotlight as VERY promising 16 year olds. The Cannons have an enigmatic player called Matthew O'Dwyer who is capable of the unbelievable. I hope Gippsland start Hansen forward as I cant see anyone at Oakleigh holding him.

Just remember know one has rated Oakleigh during these finals series, they knocked off Sandy, and Geelong by big margins. and to say that one player like Hansen will put them away is just silly. dont always be so sure, Oakleigh's a good side, just that no1 pays them any respect. dont be so sure foj1
 
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JamesN said:
Just remember know one has rated Oakleigh during these finals series, they knocked off Sandy, and Geelong by big margins. and to say that one player like Hansen will put them away is just silly. dont always be so sure, Oakleigh's a good side, just that no1 pays them any respect. dont be so sure foj1
Oakleigh are very good, but they also have a lot of talls. When Gippsland played them in the season, Hansen was out with injury and Ryan was out suspended. The powers back line was what let them down against Oakleigh as their taller back line players were out. With both Ryan and Hansen back in the mix and hopefully the back line, it won''t be so easy for Oakleigh to get on top of them, unless of course they use taggers which is not supposed to happen.
 
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Well put Saintly Newby, however, it's not their talls that pose the real threat to the Power. Otten and Kelly were the key players when they beat the Power a few weeks ago. Kelly was far too strong in the one on one marking contests for his opponent and kicked 5 whilst Otten ran rampant across the half forward line and kicked 4. I'm sure that Hansen would have picked up Otten and Ryan on Kelly which may have made the final result much closer.

The plus from an Oakleigh perspective was that they had 12 more scoring shots than the Power and could have easily won by 6-7 goals.

I watched the second half of the Oakleigh game against Geelong and it is their mid sized running players that pose a real threat as they are also proven goal kickers. Kelly and Gray can cause real damage paricularly if players like Batsanis get first use out of the middle.

Not sure where Hansen will play this week. Played out of square with Macaffer against North Ballarat and was pretty much ignored. Proved to be the difference between the two teams when released onto the ball and picked up about 18 possessions in the last quarter and a half. They may play him in the middle so as to get him involved early and then move him back or forward depending on how the game is going.

I'm looking forward to a tough contest and hope that the weather doesn't affect the quality of the contest.
 
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Jimmyjess said:
Well put Saintly Newby, however, it's not their talls that pose the real threat to the Power. Otten and Kelly were the key players when they beat the Power a few weeks ago. Kelly was far too strong in the one on one marking contests for his opponent and kicked 5 whilst Otten ran rampant across the half forward line and kicked 4. I'm sure that Hansen would have picked up Otten and Ryan on Kelly which may have made the final result much closer.

The plus from an Oakleigh perspective was that they had 12 more scoring shots than the Power and could have easily won by 6-7 goals.

I watched the second half of the Oakleigh game against Geelong and it is their mid sized running players that pose a real threat as they are also proven goal kickers. Kelly and Gray can cause real damage paricularly if players like Batsanis get first use out of the middle.

Not sure where Hansen will play this week. Played out of square with Macaffer against North Ballarat and was pretty much ignored. Proved to be the difference between the two teams when released onto the ball and picked up about 18 possessions in the last quarter and a half. They may play him in the middle so as to get him involved early and then move him back or forward depending on how the game is going.

I'm looking forward to a tough contest and hope that the weather doesn't affect the quality of the contest.
You're right, I forgot about the smaller kids, one with blonde hair in particular that I remember doing a lot. Although I must admit JJ, I'm only seeing it from a spectators point of view and not "someone who knows" which I think is pretty obvious. I'm looking forward to this weekend as well. I'm fairly confident that the Power, when playing to their game plan, can win this and go onto the big one.
 
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saintlynewby said:
Oakleigh are very good, but they also have a lot of talls. When Gippsland played them in the season, Hansen was out with injury and Ryan was out suspended. The powers back line was what let them down against Oakleigh as their taller back line players were out. With both Ryan and Hansen back in the mix and hopefully the back line, it won''t be so easy for Oakleigh to get on top of them, unless of course they use taggers which is not supposed to happen.

Talking about taggers, was at the game on saturday and rockefeler was batsanis's blanket in the first half, how is someone supposed to shine if they are blanketed, speaking to a mate down there batsanis gets this week in week out
 
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Licuria18 said:
Talking about taggers, was at the game on saturday and rockefeler was batsanis's blanket in the first half, how is someone supposed to shine if they are blanketed, speaking to a mate down there batsanis gets this week in week out

thats so true, batsanis gets tagged every single week. so you cant say oakleigh just tag. the whole competition does it, lets just hope it will be a terrific game and oakleigh come home with the victory
 

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