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B: Rama - Michael - Ryder
HB: Houli - Fletcher - Nash
C: Winderlich - Stanton - Lovett
HF: Davey - Lucas - Welsh
F: Jetta - Lloyd - Neagle
R: Hille - Watson - McVeigh
INT: Slattery - McPhee - Lovett-Murray - Laycock

Interesting to see you put Houli in there. I know you've been one guy who has cautioned against expecting big things from him just yet. I'm interested as to what you think now- Can he continue his NAB cup form or do you still envisage another developmental year in the 2s?
 
Absolute certainty to play if uninjured, and you're dreaming if you think otherwise.
Well hes not going to be injured is he???
Don't know where his match fitness is going to come from???
There is no way Knights will select him 1st up given he did something wrong, our successfull nab cup and the message it sends to other players
obviously you haven't experienced how a footy club works:thumbsu:
 
B: Ramanauskas - Michael - Ryder
HB: Houli - Fletcher - Nash
C: Lovett - Stanton - Winderlich
HF: Davey - Lucas - Welsh
F: Jetta - Lloyd - Hille
Foll: Laycock - Watson - McVeigh

Int: L-Murray McPhee Slattery Dempsey


B: RAMA- MICHAEL-RYDER
HB: L-MUARRY- FLETCH- NASH
C: DYSON- WATSON-MCPHEE
HF: WELSH LUCAS DAVEY
F: LAYCOCK- 18- REIMERS
R: HILLE- STANTON- MCVEIGH
INT: PEV, JETTA, SLATERY, DEMPSEY.
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE PEV IN THERE BUT I REALLY WANT TO REWARD REIMERS SO I JUGGLED THE SIDE AROUND ABIT. WINDERLICH WONT BE READY:thumbsu:
 

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If we go with a back line of Rama, Nash, Ryder, Houli all in it then I'll cut my testicles off!

Too loose and not enough pure defenders with that backline.

You need a Lovett-Murray or Slattery or McVeigh down there to add some steel.
 
B: Slattery Michael Fletcher
HB: Nash Ryder Lovett-Murray
C: Dyson Watson Houli
HF:McPhee Lucas Welsh
F: Davey Lloyd Reimers
R: Hille McVeigh Stanton
Inter: Laycock Lovett Ramanauskas Neagle
 
reimers isn't a chance to play, whilst you have left DC out. he is a lock for round 1.

neagle won't get a game after playing one solid game. with the resting ruckman spending time in the forward line we will be too top heavy if he plays.

i doubt both rama and slats will play, only one of those two will get a gig.

i think many people here are underestimating hocking. he has had a huge pre-season and i reckon as long as he is fit he will play round 1.
 
Well hes not going to be injured is he???
Don't know where his match fitness is going to come from???
There is no way Knights will select him 1st up given he did something wrong, our successfull nab cup and the message it sends to other players
obviously you haven't experienced how a footy club works:thumbsu:

I know how a footy club works champ. What was Lovett's punishment? Was it missing the preseason cup games? Yes. Was it missing round 1 as well? No? So why would it be a sign of relenting for him to play round 1. It, of course, would not be. A Lovett without a warm up game is worth more than most of our team. I would be amazed if he didn't play.

Also, the idea that we had such a successful NAB cup that we don't have to play the best players is completely insane. Absolutely ludicrous.
 
B: Rama Michael Ryder Fletcher
HB: Dempsey Ryder Nash
C: Dyson Monfries Lovett
HF: Davey Lucas Mcphee
F: Jetta Lloyd Hille
FOLL: Laycock Mcveigh Stanton
INTER: Watson Jetta Welsh Houli

Paddy's multiplying at an exponential rate!!!!

In all seriousness though, I have no problem watching you fellas debate the best 22 for Essendon, I just think you've fallen into 'best line-ups' rather than looking at round 1. The Roos are currently forward line-

Campbell- Thompson- Edwards
Grant- Petrie- Jones

How will Ryder or Dempsey line up there? Edwards is too quick for Fletcher, and leads constantly to the HFF with Jones dropping back.

Not trolling, just think you've strayed from the 'round 1' line up...
 
reimers isn't a chance to play, whilst you have left DC out. he is a lock for round 1.

neagle won't get a game after playing one solid game. with the resting ruckman spending time in the forward line we will be too top heavy if he plays.

i doubt both rama and slats will play, only one of those two will get a gig.

i think many people here are underestimating hocking. he has had a huge pre-season and i reckon as long as he is fit he will play round 1.

I can't see how you can claim so firmly that Reimers is out and Dempsey's in. Neither are certain starters or omissions. The same applies to Jay Neagle.

As far as I'm concerned, the Essendon side would be far from settled right now, with this week remaining vital for many players' round 1 aspirations. There's probably around 30 guys with a hope.
 
Paddy's multiplying at an exponential rate!!!!

In all seriousness though, I have no problem watching you fellas debate the best 22 for Essendon, I just think you've fallen into 'best line-ups' rather than looking at round 1. The Roos are currently forward line-

Campbell- Thompson- Edwards
Grant- Petrie- Jones

How will Ryder or Dempsey line up there? Edwards is too quick for Fletcher, and leads constantly to the HFF with Jones dropping back.

Not trolling, just think you've strayed from the 'round 1' line up...

FF: Monfries - Lloyd -Jetta
HF: Laycock - Lucas - Mcphee
C: Mcveigh - Houli -Lovett
HB: Dempsey - Fletcher - Ryder (Backline should line up like this if your foward line is structured the way you said)
FB: Ramanaskas - Michael - Welsh
Foll: Hille - Stanton - Davey
Inter: Watson - Nash - JJ - Dyson

Would love to see Pears, Myers, Hislop, Reimers, Neagle all play but I dont think we can afford to intergrate too many young guys early on but more later on in the season
 
Interesting to see you put Houli in there. I know you've been one guy who has cautioned against expecting big things from him just yet. I'm interested as to what you think now- Can he continue his NAB cup form or do you still envisage another developmental year in the 2s?

Another development year for him, but I think he'll start.
 
I can't see how you can claim so firmly that Reimers is out and Dempsey's in. Neither are certain starters or omissions. The same applies to Jay Neagle.

there are enough guys that play a similar role to kyle that have their nose in front of him. lovett, jetta, davey, dyson, winders, welsh and nlm have either the forward flanks or wings covered.

whilst if you have been paying attention over the summer you would know that knights has continually been saying that DC will be persisted with on the back flank. he has had a huge pre-season and is a star of the future.

jay showed a lot the other night, but he is nowhere near fit enough to be able to play a game of AFL footy with just 4 guys on the bench. he'd only be able to play half the game and if lloydy is fit he will struggle to see much senior footy before the early season break.
 
I know how a footy club works champ. What was Lovett's punishment? Was it missing the preseason cup games? Yes. Was it missing round 1 as well? No? So why would it be a sign of relenting for him to play round 1. It, of course, would not be. A Lovett without a warm up game is worth more than most of our team. I would be amazed if he didn't play.

Also, the idea that we had such a successful NAB cup that we don't have to play the best players is completely insane. Absolutely ludicrous.
Won't play!
spose you want Hislop in for round 1 now hey Champ???
:D:D:D:D
 

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there are enough guys that play a similar role to kyle that have their nose in front of him. lovett, jetta, davey, dyson, winders, welsh and nlm have either the forward flanks or wings covered.

whilst if you have been paying attention over the summer you would know that knights has continually been saying that DC will be persisted with on the back flank. he has had a huge pre-season and is a star of the future.

jay showed a lot the other night, but he is nowhere near fit enough to be able to play a game of AFL footy with just 4 guys on the bench. he'd only be able to play half the game and if lloydy is fit he will struggle to see much senior footy before the early season break.

I'm not arguing with your opinions, I agree with you.

My point is that nothing's in concrete. Perhaps if you had been paying attention during the Pre-season you would have heard Knights mention that after the Brisbane game that there were roughly another 6-8 guys in contention on top of an already large group.

As for Courtenay Dempsey, just because he'll be persisted with on the back flank doesn't mean he'll be persisted with in the seniors. Never was there a guarantee of him being in the side. For the record, I think he'll play. However, he's certainly not a lock for Round 1.
 
Another development year for him, but I think he'll start.

He seems a bit more settled this year, going by his recent NAB form. Is your view on another development year due to competition in gaining a spot in the senior side or purely due to him not being completely ready for an AFL season?

I've penciled him in for round 1, however a number of players are pressing for a spot.
 
Backs
Lovett-Murray, Michael, Ryder
Dempsey, Fletcher, Nash

Mid-field
Dyson, McVeigh,Stanton
Hille, Watson, Houli

Forwards
Davey, Lucas,Mcphee
Lovett, Lloyd, Reimers

Interchange
Laycock, Monfries, Jetta, Winderlich

Emergencies
Hislop, Pears, Neagle

PS - Is Winderlich still injured?
 
Backs
Lovett-Murray, Michael, Ryder
Dempsey, Fletcher, Nash

Mid-field
Dyson, McVeigh,Stanton
Hille, Watson, Houli

Forwards
Davey, Lucas,Mcphee
Lovett, Lloyd, Reimers

Interchange
Laycock, Monfries, Jetta, Winderlich

Emergencies
Hislop, Pears, Neagle

PS - Is Winderlich still injured?

I think he will be unavalible for round 1 maybe even 2
 
Backs
Lovett-Murray, Michael, Ryder
Dempsey, Fletcher, Nash

Mid-field
Dyson, McVeigh,Stanton
Hille, Watson, Houli

Forwards
Davey, Lucas,Mcphee
Lovett, Lloyd, Reimers

Interchange
Laycock, Monfries, Jetta, Winderlich

Emergencies
Hislop, Pears, Neagle

PS - Is Winderlich still injured?


This is around the money for em as we nee youth - except Lovett, Hislop and Winderlich I don't think are chances due to injury and lack of match fitness.

Welsh and Pev I expect would get a gig although haven't been super impressed with Welsh so far - but it is pre-season.

Suprised Lonergan or Hocking are not in more teams. We need clearance guys and they aren't bad. I have a fair bit of time for Lonergan and reckon he could really be a player for us this year.

Also - can;t see why Rama woudl get a gig in the back pocket. He is a mid and defensively has NFI. He is too slow to play back pocket. Would like to se ehim out there, but I reckon we need more pace down back. His best posi would be in the midfield where he can use his quality to win and deliver the footy forward.
 
Also - can;t see why Rama woudl get a gig in the back pocket. He is a mid and defensively has NFI. He is too slow to play back pocket. Would like to se ehim out there, but I reckon we need more pace down back. His best posi would be in the midfield where he can use his quality to win and deliver the footy forward.


Just is that plain wrong.
 
In all seriousness though, I have no problem watching you fellas debate the best 22 for Essendon, I just think you've fallen into 'best line-ups' rather than looking at round 1. The Roos are currently forward line-

Campbell- Thompson- Edwards
Grant- Petrie- Jones

How will Ryder or Dempsey line up there? Edwards is too quick for Fletcher, and leads constantly to the HFF with Jones dropping back.

Not trolling, just think you've strayed from the 'round 1' line up...

Michael - Thompson
Ryder - Edwards
Fletch - Petrie

Or if one of your blokes is having a dud day/looking unfit, Fletch would swap to him & play off him.

My 22 -
IMHO Essendon has 14 players only (bolded, plus Licha) who would be regarded as certain 22 picks this year. This year the team will be highly fluid anyway, by this time next year even these guys might be on the outer

I'd line them up as -
B: Rama Michael Fletcher
HB: Dempsey Ryder Nash
C: Houli Watson Lovett
HF: McVeigh Lucas McPhee
FF: Reimers Lloyd Davey

R: Hille Stanton Hocking

Int: JJ Laycock Jetta Dyson

Emerg: Monfries, NLM, Lonergan, Gumbleton
 
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