List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

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Key Dates
• Nov 20-21: Telstra AFL Draft
• Nov 22: Telstra Pre-Season Draft and Rookie Draft

List Spots Available
• 6 Main list
• 1 Rookie list

Available Draft Picks
• Main Draft - 12,26,72,77,87,92
• Rookie Draft - 3

 

[Cuzz09]

Jobe Shenanigans afoot

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[Obeanie1]

You build a competitive list with top line mids taken with top picks .

That ship has sailed mate

Except you only get top line picks every so often.

And the AFL has basically destroyed the integrity of the draft.

Geelong, Collingwood havent built their lists with top end picks have they.

Have the Hawks? No.

How has Gold Coast gone with dozens of top 10 picks? Still yet to play a single final.

So the facts clearly dont support you negative view on how to build a competitive list.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Shanahan make sense after we just extended out our second best key forward, who just had an AA season, on big money.

What can go wrong.

 

[Obeanie1]

Listening to Mini on Gettable saying that WC will take the best available talent with their first pick...

If Jobe Shanahan is still on the board at our pick I think we take him... I think Richmond would be stupid to overlook him as I think he's emerging as the highest rated KPP in the draft. I think this is why Essendon want to get back into the 1st round of the draft, and I hope we capitalise on this.

Hopefully Melb/Tigers select a KPP and Lindsay falls through to us - I have cooled on TT, especially with Mini saying Ginbey will be settled at half back for the time being.

That was a throw away line.

He admitted he wasnt too involved with the draft team to date.

 

[Dark Sharks]

GET UP CLINTS.... It's fold day.

 

[squashface]

#handjobe

 

[mattyc75]

Best available will be Shanahan.

Sounds like a real talented player with a big future . Hopefully we do add a few picks in this draft also , add a few midfielders...

Where will shanahan play if we pick him? Wing?

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[Yeahnahmate]

Oh my days we better pick an actual mid with this first pick. A developing tall or player with mid potential & I’ll likely be flipping out quite nicely

 

[Lazzas]

Oh my days we better pick an actual mid with this first pick. A developing tall or player with mid potential & I’ll likely be flipping out quite nicely

A developing tall players, with midfield potential that has been injured for two years. That's what the pieman has on his board as he plays along from home.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Preferences based on never having watched anyone but reading this board, and a few mock articles, of players who might be available.

1. Lindsay - seems to have moved out of our range now sadly
2. M Reid - a classy midfield/fwd who has a slight knock for speed. Can carry a player who knows how to football (like he does) as long as not snail pace (which he doesn't appear to be), as long as get enough speed elsewhere in the team.
3. Hotton - has the talent and upside to pay off, but a big risk, not sure we can take it unless no other good options. Will probably end up at Tigers or GWS who will have the ability to take the risk

If all the three above are gone, then someone projected to be top 10 has slipped and we just take them.

 

[eaglevision]

Cal linking us strongly to Hotton now. “Red hot”. Didn’t think it could get much worse but if we turn pick 3 into Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

and a bloke at 15 who’s coming off an ACL requiring multiple surgeries for complications then I was wrong.

 

[NSLK]

Liam Baker/Matt Owies/Jack Graham are instant sugar hits

A draft pick is a non instant sugar hit as it needs time to develop so therefore cannot be instant

I respect Phil's views but also conscious the 'competitive list, no sugar hit' rhetoric is 100% club spin that it's deployed publicly and privately to members since the day of the Baker trade. IMV:

Liam Baker costing us O'Sullivan/Draper/etc = sugar hit

Matt Owies and Jack Graham for f-all = competitive list (although I think we could have easily done without Owies)

I just hope the anti-sugar hit rhetoric isn't indicating us using our first pick on an injured could-be gun a la (Swift/Chesser/Hotton)

Nor trading a F1 to improve our R1 to a worse R1 than we originally had

If we trade our R1 for a likely top 5 pick next year (North), that'd be a blow to the sugar hit brigade, but overall a positive

Bring it home, WCE_phil (i.e. "Just Take Reid").

 

[Happy Mastenator]

If clubs don't force Brisbane to match Levi at pick 1 (understand clubs hate not having the no.1 pick on their team so Tigers wont) or pick 2 at worst then we all deserve to have Brisbane win the next 5 flags.​

Phantom Draft late mail: Tigers to shape top end, Blues' big call

Draft guru Cal Twomey reveals the last minute draft whispers ahead of the 2024 AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

LATE MAIL PHANTOM DRAFT​

1) Richmond – Sam Lalor
2) North Melbourne – Finn O'Sullivan
3) Carlton – Jagga Smith
4) Adelaide – Sid Draper
5) Brisbane – Levi Ashcroft (matching Melbourne's bid)
6) Melbourne – Harvey Langford
7) Richmond – Josh Smillie
8) St Kilda – Tobie Travaglia
9) Gold Coast – Leo Lombard (matching St Kilda's bid)
10) Essendon – Isaac Kako (matching St Kilda's bid)
11) St Kilda – Alix Tauru
12) Melbourne – Xavier Lindsay
13) Richmond – Bo Allan
14) Richmond – Jobe Shanahan
15) West Coast – Murphy Reid
16) Port Adelaide – Harry Armstrong
17) Fremantle – Joe Berry
18) Greater Western Sydney – Jack Whitlock
19) Greater Western Sydney – Taj Hotton
20) Western Bulldogs – Cooper Hynes
21) Richmond – Jesse Dattoli
22) Brisbane – Sam Marshall (matching Sydney's bid)
23) Sydney – Jonty Faull
24) Richmond – Matt Whitlock
25) Greater Western Sydney – Harry Oliver
26) Sydney – Oliver Hannaford
27) Richmond – Jasper Alger
28) Richmond – Luke Trainor
29) Western Bulldogs – Christian Moraes
30) West Coast – Ned Bowman

https://www.afl.com.au/draft

 

[mat11]

I hope we draft draft 2 tall fwds and pyke has no choice but to sack clarke. Missing out on Jagga and Draper will haunt us like the 2001 draft and freo

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[Happy Mastenator]

Cal linking us strongly to Hotton now. “Red hot”. Didn’t think it could get much worse but if we turn pick 3 into Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

and a bloke at 15 who’s coming off an ACL requiring multiple surgeries for complications then I was wrong.

Hotton is purely a medical risk. If the club has had the opportunity to do proper DD on his knee and are comfortable that it's going to be ok, then his upside is undeniable if Lindsay/Reid are gone.

 

[We_The_West]

Where will shanahan play if we pick him? Wing?

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Well Gaff did just retire...

Surely Jobe is more suited to the wing than Brander?

Jokes aside... KPD?

 

[new breed]

Where will shanahan play if we pick him? Wing?

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Forward after 12 months development...

 

[We_The_West]

If all the three above are gone, then someone projected to be top 10 has slipped and we just take them.

Hopefully not Josh Smillie...

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Gross

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Which pick are we trading to add Tom Gross to that pile?

 

[eaglevision]

Hotton is purely a medical risk. If the club has had the opportunity to do proper DD on his knee and are comfortable that it's going to be ok, then his upside is undeniable if Lindsay/Reid are gone.

Exactly. I’m not at all concerned about his ability, I was posting about Travaglia and him very early in the year before he did his ACL but his recovery had been complicated. He’s had to have follow up procedures which is available publicly I would not go near him with our first pick.

 

[Dark Sharks]

How good is it having the melt constant over the last few weeks, today's bad news won't even shake this board atm.

 

[new breed]

If clubs don't force Brisbane to match Levi at pick 1 (understand clubs hate not having the no.1 pick on their team so Tigers wont) or pick 2 at worst then we all deserve to have Brisbane win the next 5 flags.​

Phantom Draft late mail: Tigers to shape top end, Blues' big call

Draft guru Cal Twomey reveals the last minute draft whispers ahead of the 2024 AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

LATE MAIL PHANTOM DRAFT​

1) Richmond – Sam Lalor
2) North Melbourne – Finn O'Sullivan
3) Carlton – Jagga Smith
4) Adelaide – Sid Draper
5) Brisbane – Levi Ashcroft (matching Melbourne's bid)
6) Melbourne – Harvey Langford
7) Richmond – Josh Smillie
8) St Kilda – Tobie Travaglia
9) Gold Coast – Leo Lombard (matching St Kilda's bid)
10) Essendon – Isaac Kako (matching St Kilda's bid)
11) St Kilda – Alix Tauru
12) Melbourne – Xavier Lindsay
13) Richmond – Bo Allan
14) Richmond – Jobe Shanahan
15) West Coast – Murphy Reid
16) Port Adelaide – Harry Armstrong
17) Fremantle – Joe Berry
18) Greater Western Sydney – Jack Whitlock
19) Greater Western Sydney – Taj Hotton
20) Western Bulldogs – Cooper Hynes
21) Richmond – Jesse Dattoli
22) Brisbane – Sam Marshall (matching Sydney's bid)
23) Sydney – Jonty Faull
24) Richmond – Matt Whitlock
25) Greater Western Sydney – Harry Oliver
26) Sydney – Oliver Hannaford
27) Richmond – Jasper Alger
28) Richmond – Luke Trainor
29) Western Bulldogs – Christian Moraes
30) West Coast – Ned Bowman

https://www.afl.com.au/draft

Murphy Reid or Jobe Shanahan .

Good options ...

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Except you only get top line picks every so often.

And the AFL has basically destroyed the integrity of the draft.

Geelong, Collingwood havent built their lists with top end picks have they.

Have the Hawks? No.

How has Gold Coast gone with dozens of top 10 picks? Still yet to play a single final.

So the facts clearly dont support you negative view on how to build a competitive list.

You're cherry picking.

In Geelings three flags, they had a young Joel Selwood. Then they traded in Danger who was a top 5 in the comp for a decade.

Collingwood got Daicos as FS. This guy is a generational player.

Where are we going to get these players from? We might find them elsewhere, but let's not kid ourselves, THE BEST PLACE TO FIND THEM IS AT THE TOP OF THE DRAFT. We all know this. I've seen you agree with it multiple times.

But now you're cherry picking 2 rare exceptions, but not bothering to mention all the teams who failed.

On one hand you're saying Hawks aren't all that, but here you're throwing them up as examples of success.

Do you realise you flip flop just to suit an argument?

 

[Spooky17]

Draft day without pick 3…

 

[Carbine Chaos]

It's quite an achievement for the club to not only drain any excitement I have for actual games of footy, now I'm also dreading the draft out of fear we're going to completely balls it up.

Please prove my fears wrong.