List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

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In: F1, F2, F3, Baker, Owies, Graham, Allan, Shanahan, Gross, Grego, Davis, Champion
Out: 3, 63, F3, F4, Barrass, Darling
 
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Keys said:
The idea is fine, but…..,

Need to find a club wanting to move up the draft order and it seems that those clubs with multiple picks would rather keep 2 picks in the draft than 1 pick higher up

We had trouble splitting pick 3, hence the underwhelming 12 and 14 we got and North aren’t getting much of a bite for pick 2 it seems
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Yeah, fair enough.

I suppose we'd be relying on a rush of hot blood on draft day if one of the higher touted prospects fell through... in which case, we might be inclined to keep the pick anyway.
 
AsterixTheGaul said:
HUN is on fire today. Real reporting!!!

The article is on the AFL cracking down on side deals for not bidding (hello Tigers and Lions)

Interesting that they also include the F/S, Northern Academy and NGA prospects. Note the absence of an expected bid on Champion!!Mind you they also excluded Logan Smith (204cm ruck) from GWS academy who looks a R3 range and similar or R4 for Swans with Joel Cochran (195cm KPP)

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My wish if for the Tigers to bid on Ashcroft at 1, Saints on Lombard at 7, then Kako at 8. Round it up with a bid by Sydney on Marshall at 19 or 22. That would see the Lions draining futures to match. A good move but damn hard to police it.
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Does that mean they are going to take pick 2 off Norf for not bidding on Walter at #2 last year despite still being able to take McKercher at #3 even if GCS hadn’t matched?
 

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Obeanie1 said:
How many quality wingers get drafted top 10.?

Not many.

Moreas likely available at our 2nd.

Wings and half backs slide with gun mids and talls taking the majority of the best picks.
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I’m talking about gun midfielders though, as the original post I replied to mentioned.
 
BartBart said:
Wouldn't it be be good if we had an athlete who wins more 1 on 1s than loses, and put them on the dead wing on a point kickout and actually use them on a set play?
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That is what Maric on the wing is for.

He is the point of difference taller matchup, really strong overhead with elite field kicking.

But yes, using the old "dead wing" every now and again would help spread the defense and make us less predictable.

That was the biggest WTF in my mind with the dead / defensive wing game plan. We became so predictable and easy to defeand against. As soon as the opposition know what you are doing and you are predictable, you dont have a chance in hell.
 
TwoStriders said:
Is it too soon after the Baker trade to ask if we should think about splitting pick 12?

Feels like there are a lot of nice prospects across a spread of positions projected from the late-teens to early 30s in this draft. And a few clubs with multiple picks in this range (GWS: 15, 16 and 21. RIC: 18, 20, 23 and 24. SYD: 19 and 22.)

Rebounding defenders: H. Oliver/A. Clark
Key position defenders: L. Trainor/M. Whitlock
Athletic mids: C. Hynes/H. Boxshall
Forward/mids: T. Hotton/H. Davis
Ruck/Tall utility: K. Gerran

Would we rather say Allan and Davis at 12 and 26 or something like Oliver, M. Whitlock and Hynes across 20, 23 and 26?
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I have a weird feeling Hynes will get picked up relatively early. Would like to see him at west coast.
 
mattyc75 said:
I like your doubling down but maric was drafted as a forward. Hall as an inside mid, burgiel when fit plays of a hbf.
Harvey sure,we'll see.
My point was no matter if you've got even 1 'wingman' on your list you still play someone on the wing. If you want to call trying Jamieson on a wing being creative geniuses you can or it could be that we really just had no one suitable to play in that role so plonked someone there.
Chesser sure. He's probably played it a bit in his career so far. Sucked most of the time but yeah we're trying aren't we.
Probably the last draftee I had high hopes for as a wingman was Foley. That didn't go well.


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"Plonked" someone in the wing? Not sure about plonking being an official part of the development plan.

Trialled players. Sure. Hall, Johnston. Hutchingson.

Invested games into player development. Absolutely. Chesser, Ginbey and Maric.

Could Hewett or Hough spend time rotating off a wing?

The Run and Gun Richmond game style uses a lot of players covering the ground, so rotations are essential.

Who knows if our next premiership winger is on that list?

Do we need to bolster our outside midfield class? Absolutely.
 
Ambrose Burnside said:
Sheezel was a U18 star and his performances shat all over Ginbey or Hewett's. Kicked plenty of goals and started to rack up the possessions too.

Norf would have taken him at Pick 1 though.
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If we went Sheezel this board would have gone into complete meltdown that we picked a small/med fwd over midfielders.

Sheezel was very good at kicking goals, he absolutely had not shown the production required for a midfielder.

And yeah, he wouldn’t have even been there.

Constant sooking about that 2022 draft is a joke considering the two best performed prospects were a medium forward and an injury prone mid mainly that high due to his bottom age year.
 
Shueygod said:
If we went Sheezel this board would have gone into complete meltdown that we picked a small/med fwd over midfielders.

Sheezel was very good at kicking goals, he absolutely had not shown the production required for a midfielder.

And yeah, he wouldn’t have even been there.

Constant sooking about that 2022 draft is a joke considering the two best performed prospects were a medium forward and an injury prone mid mainly that high due to his bottom age year.
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I not that bothered if we would have sooked right after the draft. If our recruiters knew what that were doing and then the club did more generally, in the fullness of time we would have then seen Sheezel and Wardlaw be the players they are.

At least for me its not about Sheezel and Wardlaw, I am just tired of us constantly trading back out of the top selections into no-mans land. If we were nailing our picks in the teens and 20s I would be fine with the club doing it but we are not and its a large part of the reason why we are in this position.
 

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Shueygod said:
If we went Sheezel this board would have gone into complete meltdown that we picked a small/med fwd over midfielders.

Sheezel was very good at kicking goals, he absolutely had not shown the production required for a midfielder.

And yeah, he wouldn’t have even been there.

Constant sooking about that 2022 draft is a joke considering the two best performed prospects were a medium forward and an injury prone mid mainly that high due to his bottom age year.
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Lol. Sheezel's performances surged pretty early in 2022, and by mid-season when he started moving into the middle he put in performances such as: 28 disposals and 6 goals; 37 disposals; 33 and 3 goals; 22 and 4 goals.

It was very obvious he was elite and would be able to play anywhere.
 
TOA. said:
I not that bothered if we would have sooked right after the draft. If our recruiters knew what that were doing and then the club did more generally, in the fullness of time we would have then seen Sheezel and Wardlaw be the players they are.

At least for me it’s not about Sheezel and Wardlaw, I am just tired of us constantly trading back out of the top selections into no-mans land. If we were nailing our picks in the teens and 20s I would be fine with the club doing it but we are not and it’s a large part of the reason why we are in this position.
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I just disagree that 8 and 12 in the 22 draft are “no man’s land”, Ginbey is probably the 3rd or 4th best performed player in the draft. There wasn’t a top prospect without question marks anyway, I’d love to know who this “blue chip mid” is in both this and the 22 draft.


Mattman93 said:
Lol. Sheezel's performances surged pretty early in 2022, and by mid-season when he started moving into the middle he put in performances such as: 28 disposals and 6 goals; 37 disposals; 33 and 3 goals; 22 and 4 goals.

It was very obvious he was elite and would be able to play anywhere.
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Just think this is massive revisionist history, Sheezel certainly had question marks on his midfield productivity, beating up the Coates league in a dominant team didn’t answer those for the majority of people.

Hewett had 29 and 2 in a state champs game, 31 and a goal in WAFL reserves. You are kidding yourself if you don’t believe he would’ve been similarly dominating the WAFL colts league.
 
Obeanie1 said:
"Plonked" someone in the wing? Not sure about plonking being an official part of the development plan.

Trialled players. Sure. Hall, Johnston. Hutchingson.

Invested games into player development. Absolutely. Chesser, Ginbey and Maric.

Could Hewett or Hough spend time rotating off a wing?

The Run and Gun Richmond game style uses a lot of players covering the ground, so rotations are essential.

Who knows if our next premiership winger is on that list?

Do we need to bolster our outside midfield class? Absolutely.
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Brander was a good one too, you forgot him. Yeah I get what your saying about trialling players there but the reason for the trialling is because we haven't drafted a wingman.
The only guy I can see that may have taken the role was hunt but he's a bit poo at it.
Maric is ok but I think he'll end up in the backline or just a jack of all trades

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Keys said:
The idea is fine, but…..,

Need to find a club wanting to move up the draft order and it seems that those clubs with multiple picks would rather keep 2 picks in the draft than 1 pick higher up

We had trouble splitting pick 3, hence the underwhelming 12 and 14 we got and North aren’t getting much of a bite for pick 2 it seems
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Nature of a even draft.
 
Schtinker said:
Was his father Christopher Gerreyn who played for East Perth and Claremont?

Christopher Gerreyn | WAFL

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71 games 189 goals.
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Some information here:
"Kayle’s Dad Chris, also a forward, played for Claremont and East Perth in the WAFL during the 1990’s.He was also drafted by Hawthorn but didn’t play a match at AFL level."
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Lachlan Blakiston is apparently on the radar of a couple of clubs including ours. Looking only at the stats Max Knobel absolutely dominated him in the hit outs (50 to 25) when they played each other in the league. Did anyone see the game live that can add anything to the stat lines?
 
EagleEgo said:
Nature of a even draft.
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Yep. Which is why splitting pick 3, whilst being something I’d rather we didn’t do, isn’t as catastrophic as some have made out

This is just an observation not directed at anyone in particular, but back when we still had pick 3 there was no shortage of posters pointing out flaws in all of the top candidates.

And I do mean all. Smith was a new Masten, O’Sullivan had questionable disposal, Lalor didn’t get enough ball, Langford too slow, Smillie was a man child, Draper too small etc etc

As soon as we traded 3, they’ve all become superstars and their respective flaws have vanished

Simultaneously, the weaknesses of those we might take at 12 are being amplified with the one exception of Travaglia who is expected not to last to our pick
 
EagleEgo said:
Some information here:
"Kayle’s Dad Chris, also a forward, played for Claremont and East Perth in the WAFL during the 1990’s.He was also drafted by Hawthorn but didn’t play a match at AFL level."
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Just think that his agility puts him in a tier up their with Jez Cameron. Yes we don't need forwards.
 
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