List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

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Obeanie1 said:
Yep, Your all over the place. ;) :thumbsu:

Definately leaning towards doom and gloom ..... glass always empty though.
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Definitely in the Mattyc75 camp this year, particularly given the Reid evidence of the advantages of taking quality over quantity and plus 25 year olds.

Keep telling myself to resist from posting negatively, as it achieves nothing apart from being able to refer to later (i.e. just like the winning a game is more important than Reid crew, who never have accepted their serve of humble pie and are now excited over what Baker, Graham and Owies bring to our next GF push).

Definitely going to look on the positive side after today with the new young faces coming in .......but in the interim...... suspect the half full crew will be drinking from this by round 16 (or earlier):

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Dark Sharks said:
I legit would not be surprised if Hutchinson is never seen in the midfield again and all this carry on is for nothing.

Not entirely sure a "move the magnets" around game which was already over and us being an uncompetitive basket case is going to be enough to earn him a round 1 berth, let alone in the midfield.


Come round 1, my tip is he's once again playing up forward for the Beagles.
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That's what I've been thinking.

Sample size of 1 and its a jarrod schofield move.

The new coach may want to salt the earth and declare himself the true genius who thinks everyone else is wrong.
 

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dajesmac said:
I find myself loving Ollie Hannaford and wanting him in blue and gold; whilst accepting it would be pretty silly to draft him at 13 and it's incredibly unlikely he's there at 26.
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Welcome aboard the bandwagon. We need damaging ground ball contest players and he's it. No available players suit us better and I'd happily just take him first pick.

Wooshaaaa said:
7.26 2km time trial. Pass.

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This is the glaring possible concern, but needs further investigation I think. He also posted a 960 yo-yo which is excellent. Not the same thing as aerobic capacity obviously but it would be an unlikely combination of endurance characteristics. Doesn't stand out as a problem to the eye either. I'm open to the worries but suspect it was more of an off day for some reason than a truly reflective time.
 
Dark Sharks said:
I legit would not be surprised if Hutchinson is never seen in the midfield again and all this carry on is for nothing.

Not entirely sure a "move the magnets" around game which was already over and us being an uncompetitive basket case is going to be enough to earn him a round 1 berth, let alone in the midfield.


Come round 1, my tip is he's once again playing up forward for the Beagles.
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I think we all collectively lost our minds at us having a young player (not named Reid) get 20+ disposals in the midfield.

Which makes sense as we have not had many successful young midfielders for a long time.

I suspect next season he will play around 10 games. He looks like a very promising prospect though.
 
BeornJ said:
I think we all collectively lost our minds at us having a young player (not named Reid) get 20+ disposals in the midfield.

Which makes sense as we have not had many successful young midfielders for a long time.

I suspect next season he will play around 10 games. He looks like a very promising prospect though.
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It seems like Schofield was willing to try new things compared to Simmo.
Dropping certain players and playing those who rarely got a game under Simmo.
Hopefully he will continue to have an influence including trialling young players in key posts like the midfield.
 
eaglevision said:
According to media reports Sydney were willing to trade 19 and 22 for 13. Perhaps they had a player trade in mind but if it was purely for the pick that is a trade using 12 that is worth exploring should the above eventuate. Downgrading Hynes (15) to Gross (22) but keeping 26 would seem like a good option if it’s on the table plus we’d have 19 instead of 21.

19, 22 and 26 would get us Oliver, a mid and the best KPD (I’m excluding Trainor). If Woosha gets on the blower to Rosa and Vozzo and gets the 2 x F2s for 28 and 31 deal done then that will go some way to undoing the absolute cluster f**k Clarke has left us in. 19,22,26,28,31 and Champion would be a great draft position. Let’s just hope we’d use them better than the Suns heist of 2018.
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Gws would be better if they go gothard style again. 12 for 16 + 21. If bo Allan is around our first pick that's something that'd suit them imo and not so much us

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Dark Sharks said:
I legit would not be surprised if Hutchinson is never seen in the midfield again and all this carry on is for nothing.

Not entirely sure a "move the magnets" around game which was already over and us being an uncompetitive basket case is going to be enough to earn him a round 1 berth, let alone in the midfield.


Come round 1, my tip is he's once again playing up forward for the Beagles.
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Bit flimsy from you, DS.
Peak 'Sharks would have written him off after three games. :triumph:
 
Wooshaaaa said:
I see it slightly different. Teams before us with multiple picks have the luxury of take needs first and then best available with their next pick.

Tigers have multiple picks so can afford to take best available key tall sooner than most might, to ensure they get him. So one of there 10/11 I think will be a tall. 2 mids will go with their picks 1 and 6. With all the picks they have in the 20s, they will then take best available for needs.
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Tigers are a maybe, 18-24 is mostly talls, I think they should take at least 1 tall in their first 4 picks, but if they keep all their picks then they'll get multiple talls around pick 20 area anyway.
I'd I was them I'd be aiming for 1 tall jn the top 11 and then 2 more talls later on(maybe Dodson as one of them).

Always that chance they just wait for later picks for talls though
Wooshaaaa said:
Saints will be desperate for pure mids and talls. They need an inside player and key defenders.
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Saints have pick 32, there's plenty of talls there and they have their NGA kid who is a lockdown KPD
Wooshaaaa said:
Dees desperate to find the Oliver/petracca and may/lever replacements.
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I feel like the dees will just go 2 mids tbh, apparently Jefferson is going well in the vfl(or so i hear)
Wooshaaaa said:
I can see all three clubs taking a tall. It depends whether they consider TT a tall key? It will also mean that the likes of Smillie, Reid Allen will be available.



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Dark Sharks said:
I legit would not be surprised if Hutchinson is never seen in the midfield again and all this carry on is for nothing.

Not entirely sure a "move the magnets" around game which was already over and us being an uncompetitive basket case is going to be enough to earn him a round 1 berth, let alone in the midfield.


Come round 1, my tip is he's once again playing up forward for the Beagles.
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Tend to agree that the performance may be an outlier, but it would be pretty remiss of the new coach not to at least look at him in that role given how he did, whether at Beagles level first or otherwise.
 
mat11 said:
Gws would be better if they go gothard style again. 12 for 16 + 21. If bo Allan is around our first pick that's something that'd suit them imo and not so much us

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Allan really would suit us more than anybody in that 13-17 part of the draft. Half back or mid he fills a need.

Accumulation isn't really worth skipping what's clearly a great talent
 

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stallon said:
Allan really would suit us more than anybody in that 13-17 part of the draft. Half back or mid he fills a need.

Accumulation isn't really worth skipping what's clearly a great talent
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I can't see a midfielder in him and that's our most dire needs atm imo. If Lindsay isn't available I'd be OK with slipping back a bit and gaining that extra pick. Sort out a few other list holes this year then next year try and nail a gun mid

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West Coast
Picks: 12, 26, 73

The Eagles will be hoping for a better return from Pick 12 after their three previous recruits managed a combined 22 games between them

Pick 26 is much better to look back on, having recruited 2018 premiership players Jack Darling and Liam Ryan in 2010 and 2017.

Other Pick 26 recruits Michael O'Brien and Daniel McConnell couldn't get their careers going at West Coast though, while the Eagles haven't used Pick 73 before.

12: Shane Porter (1990), Shane Sikora (1994), Jaxon Crabb (1997)

26: Michael O'Brien (1998), Daniel McConnell (2003), Jack Darling (2010), Liam Ryan (2017)

73: N/A
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Grain of salt as our picks will change with academy and father/son selections anyway
 
Keys said:
Worst case scenario for us if all these go before our pick (in no particular order)

• Lalor
• Tauru
• O’Sullivan
• Draper
• Smith
• Langford
• Smillie
• Armstrong
• Travaglia
• Lindsay
• Allan

Leaves us with a choice between Reid, Berry, Hotton or Hynes as the next best non-KPP options. Alternatively, we trade further down with a club wanting to get ahead of the queue for a KPF (Shanahan/Whitlock) or a boner for a Reid/Hotton type

So we need one of Richmond/Melbourne/St Kilda to take one or both of Reid or Shanahan instead of Allan/Lindsay (or in a perfect world Travaglia slides)

Seems unlikely that Trainor, Hotton or Berry go before our pick

It’s going to be a tough watch on draft night waiting to see who falls as the names we’d really like get snapped up
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Bewildering that we have traded into this position. It sounds like Reid is the best bet to slide into a pick before ours but geez its a worry. It looks like a good chance we will be stuck choosing between Reid, Berry, Hotton or Hynes
 
TOA. said:
Bewildering that we have traded into this position. It sounds like Reid is the best bet to slide into a pick before ours but geez its a worry. It looks like a good chance we will be stuck choosing between Reid, Berry, Hotton or Hynes
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Most of the phantom drafts in the media have Reid going before our pick. The only one I’ve read that doesn’t is the Age which has Reid sliding to around pick 20 - but they then have Richmond taking Shanahan

So the end result is either Allan or Lindsay has still been on the board for us making the most likely result that either one of them will be an Eagle- albeit that choice will be made for us as only one will be there not both

So pick 3 becomes Allan/Lindsay and Baker - time will tell how damaging that decision eventually becomes.

With Lalor and Tauru firming as picks 1 and 2, we would have had the choice between Smith, Draper, Smillie, Langford or O’Sullivan. I’d be interested in which one of those posters here would have chosen
 
Keys said:
Most of the phantom drafts in the media have Reid going before our pick. The only one I’ve read that doesn’t is the Age which has Reid sliding to around pick 20 - but they then have Richmond taking Shanahan

So the end result is either Allan or Lindsay has still been on the board for us making the most likely result that either one of them will be an Eagle- albeit that choice will be made for us as only one will be there not both

So pick 3 becomes Allan/Lindsay and Baker - time will tell how damaging that decision eventually becomes.

With Lalor and Tauru firming as picks 1 and 2, we would have had the choice between Smith, Draper, Smillie, Langford or O’Sullivan. I’d be interested in which one of those posters here would have chosen
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Jagga takes gaffs number and position and we never look back

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Keys said:
Most of the phantom drafts in the media have Reid going before our pick. The only one I’ve read that doesn’t is the Age which has Reid sliding to around pick 20 - but they then have Richmond taking Shanahan

So the end result is either Allan or Lindsay has still been on the board for us making the most likely result that either one of them will be an Eagle- albeit that choice will be made for us as only one will be there not both

So pick 3 becomes Allan/Lindsay and Baker - time will tell how damaging that decision eventually becomes.

With Lalor and Tauru firming as picks 1 and 2, we would have had the choice between Smith, Draper, Smillie, Langford or O’Sullivan. I’d be interested in which one of those posters here would have chosen
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Toss up between Smith and FOS. I'd probably go FOS.
 
mat11 said:
Jagga takes gaffs number and position and we never look back

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Agreed, the concerns about him not being able to be a full time mid due to size not translating don't bother me. Knows how to find the football and makes it to every contest of the day, just moves to the outside at the next level and will still find a tonne of it.
 
Cornelius Roy said:
Agreed, the concerns about him not being able to be a full time mid due to size not translating don't bother me. Knows how to find the football and makes it to every contest of the day, just moves to the outside at the next level and will still find a tonne of it.
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People are worried about the Masten factor, but Smith is a way better player. Masten was dogshit in a dogshit draft.
 

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