List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

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Key Dates

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• Oct 17 to Nov 8: Pick swap window
• Nov 1 to Nov 8: Delisted free agency period
• Nov 20-21: Telstra AFL Draft
• Nov 22: Telstra Pre-Season Draft and Rookie Draft

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• 6 Main list
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Current Draft Picks

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• Main Draft - 12,26,73,81,99
• Rookie Draft - 3

Recent News
• Luke Edwards delisted after deciding to step away from football due to ongoing concussion symptoms

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I like the breakdown

Good news is at least one of that 4 makes it to our pick (unless Armstrong slides past all of Melbourne, Saints and Richmond which is unlikely)

Bad news is we probably don’t get to choose as all but one are likely gone by our pick (unless one or more of Shanahan/Hotton/Berry go earlier than expected)

That said, I’d be happy with any of those four - they all have the potential to be at least close to whoever we might have taken with pick 3

Also you’ve left FOS (Average), Reid (Above average) and Smillie (Above average) one short on their attributes

Fixed the attributes count. Thanks - good pick up


I have actually made a new measure of weighting the measures.

• "Elite" it is weighted at 4.
• "Above Average" has no weighting as a first round pick is meant to be Above Average.
• "Average" is weighted at -2
• "Below Average" is weighted at -4

It shows Allan and Draper to be the best ranks and Reid and Travaglia to be the lowest. That is the scientist in me. The footballer says the best ability is availability hence durability is so important that a formula cannot be used. Also the decision making or footy IQ is about the greatest attribute for a midfielder.

 

[Knifey Spoony]

Tell you what...I sure wish we had second pick near 12. Two of Allan, Reid, Lindsay or maybe Travaglia would be awesome. Oh well.

 

[beatlesmith]

Annoyingly I think we really need midfielders that have both Allan and Lindsay's attributes. If only we held picks 12 and 14!

A defensively responsible, big bodied mid and a more outside accumulator with great skills would each really compliment Reid and Hewett, who I see as being quite similar players.

I like Lindsay a little bit more than Allan in isolation, but if we're confident of getting Warner next year then Allan might offer a better fit, other things being equal. Then again, maybe Hall or Ginbey could become that big bodied mid in time?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

So another way of looking at it

If we assume (and a big IF) that we will pick a midfielder at 12 and IF they will join the midfield team of Harley, Hewett and Ginbey, here is what Rookie Me Central had for the 3 already of our list. Adding Lindsay or Travaglia is possibly the best pairings.

 

[TOA.]

Is Allan actually going to be a mid, or is that just a hope. We really, really cant afford to pick him and he's just another HBF in the end.

I dont really care if he has won possessions and got ok stats at U18. Does he win clearances, does he have clean hands below his knees, can be evade tackles in close, can he read the ball off hands. You can just plonk anyone in the mids and hope they work but to be a quality mid you need a pretty clear skill set. Tbh, its not really a skill set that guys like Duggan, Ginbey etc have which is why they seem better suited to half back.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Is Allan actually going to be a mid, or is that just a hope. We really, really cant afford to pick him and he's just another HBF in the end.

I dont really care if he has won possessions and got ok stats at U18. Does he win clearances, does he have clean hands below his knees, can be evade tackles in close, can he read the ball off hands. You can just plonk anyone in the mids and hope they work but to be a quality mid you need a pretty clear skill set. Tbh, its not really a skill set that guys like Duggan, Ginbey etc have which is why they seem better suited to half back.

With only 1 top end pick and question marks on Hewett and Ginbey (plus most not believing Chesser will make it), that is a question we have to grapple with. If he isn’t a mid, it won’t impact Tigers build but will us.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Fixed the attributes count. Thanks - good pick up

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I have actually made a new measure of weighting the measures.

• "Elite" it is weighted at 4.
• "Above Average" has no weighting as a first round pick is meant to be Above Average.
• "Average" is weighted at -2
• "Below Average" is weighted at -4

It shows Allan and Draper to be the best ranks and Reid and Travaglia to be the lowest. That is the scientist in me. The footballer says the best ability is availability hence durability is so important that a formula cannot be used. Also the decision making or footy IQ is about the greatest attribute for a midfielder.

I'd love to see clean hands/one touch added by RMC . It's such an important attribute to have

 

[Elite Pete]

Tell you what...I sure wish we had second pick near 12. Two of Allan, Reid, Lindsay or maybe Travaglia would be awesome. Oh well.

Yeah 12 and 14 in this years draft and Hawks F1 for Baker would’ve been a better sell, not a great sell but a better one