Opinion The Adelaide Board Politics/COVID Thread Part 3

[Cap]

Australian troops to help train Ukrainian forces in fight against Russia, as more Bushmaster vehicles sent to war

Australia to help train Ukrainian forces in fight against Russia, send more Bushmaster vehicles

Australian troops will deploy to the UK to train Ukrainian forces, helping bolster the eastern European nation's defences against Vladimir Putin's brutal invasion.

www.abc.net.au

Happy to hear we are helping out.

 

[Cap]

Wow, Youve really stepped this up. I think you would find most if not all states have exceptions like you mentioned in their laws.

You probably need to start looking a bit deeper into issues than Fox News wants you too.

 

[LeftyLuke]

The problem with this is the (very faulty) assumption that ”the experts” never get it wrong.

The problem is that the experts are bought and paid for big pharma. They actually didn't get anything wrong as they didn't analyse anything, they were always being approved. They knew they were approving a faulty product in which more people died in the vaccinated group than the placebo group during the trials. A quick look into the Pfizer trial will prove this factually correct. This btw breaks there liability protection if it can be proven that they knowingly subjected people to a product they knew would injure and kill. The tax payer paid for the development of a faulty product which they were mostly forced to take and legally had no recourse against the government or big pharma. No wonder many politicians got in on this investment.

It's a very shortsighted grift by big pharma as although they cleaned up in the short term, in the long term many individuals will never trust them again with another vaccine or drug no matter how safe they are.

 

[feenix67]

And I agree with that in part. Pfizer would have done its risk assessment prior release. It was great having it, but governments should have been doing parallel and ongoing studies before issuing mandates. A few countries did but he CDC in the USA sat on its behind. Politics. I had 2 shots of Astra Zenica and still got Covid and was hospitalized.

So did I. In fact my partner, who is in her mid 30s, was double vaxxed and caught it so bad she nearly died. Literally. 14 days isolated in ICU and a long convalesence. So I'm no raging pro vaxxer by any means.

I am a pragmatist though. Did the Vax, lock downs and other measures help us avoid the kind of shitshow we saw in Italy? Maybe. Personally, I don't know why we didn't shut down international travel far earlier. In any event, I'm not a fan of looking at such things in the rear view mirror and judging with the benefit of hindsight. Big Pharma would have benefitted from Covid no matter when the vaccines were rolled out because, well, we were dealing with a disease. The vaccines, however effective, gave us the means to open up again. Without them, no govt would have had the balls to loosen restrictions and get people out of their houses and back to work. So, a means to an end.

 

[ADL9798]

Perfect crime for Pfizer et al.

Governments mandated their products on people while simultaneously giving them no legal recourse against the manufacturer.

What a double whammy. Could a business model ever be so lucrative?

Pifzer is home free with tens of billions from its “safe and effective” vaccine, while the Australian taxpayer cleans up the collateral damage of thousands of previously young, healthy people who now have vaccine injuries.

And there are still posters in here who see not a single thing wrong with any of this.

They’re lost causes.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/pdfs/mm7114e1-H.pdf

n=15 million

“Cardiac complications were rare after SARS-CoV-2 infection or mRNA COVID-19 vaccination. However, the risks for these complications were higher after infection than after vaccination among males and females in all age groups. These findings provide important context for balancing risks and benefits of mRNA COVID-19 vaccination among eligible persons ≥5 years.”



I look forward to you one day having that epiphany where you actually consider the other half of the equation around COVID and vaccination risks and benefits, instead of just the side that supports your illogical predetermined conclusions like that there was never anything to worry about with COVID anyway, COVID vaccines offer no benefit, etc.

 

[adelaidecrows]

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/pdfs/mm7114e1-H.pdf

n=15 million

“Cardiac complications were rare after SARS-CoV-2 infection or mRNA COVID-19 vaccination. However, the risks for these complications were higher after infection than after vaccination among males and females in all age groups. These findings provide important context for balancing risks and benefits of mRNA COVID-19 vaccination among eligible persons ≥5 years.”

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I look forward to you one day having that epiphany where you actually consider the other half of the equation around COVID and vaccination risks and benefits, instead of just the side that supports your illogical predetermined conclusions like that there was never anything to worry about with COVID anyway, COVID vaccines offer no benefit, etc.

A lot of the anti-covid vax health rhetoric I believe is nothing more than a misguided attempt trying to justify standing for their own freedom instead of just talking about their own freedom.

 

[Vader]

Wow, Youve really stepped this up. I think you would find most if not all states have exceptions like you mentioned in their laws.

No... many of them haven't - and that's the point. There are multiple states which do NOT have exceptions for rape or incest.

 

[Crow till I die]

The fix is absolutely in..democrats are rigging this election

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Your right. He is brilliant and I think he should run for the Presidency in '24.

 

[OneGreatClub]

So did I. In fact my partner, who is in her mid 30s, was double vaxxed and caught it so bad she nearly died. Literally. 14 days isolated in ICU and a long convalesence. So I'm no raging pro vaxxer by any means.

I am a pragmatist though. Did the Vax, lock downs and other measures help us avoid the kind of shitshow we saw in Italy? Maybe. Personally, I don't know why we didn't shut down international travel far earlier. In any event, I'm not a fan of looking at such things in the rear view mirror and judging with the benefit of hindsight. Big Pharma would have benefitted from Covid no matter when the vaccines were rolled out because, well, we were dealing with a disease. The vaccines, however effective, gave us the means to open up again. Without them, no govt would have had the balls to loosen restrictions and get people out of their houses and back to work. So, a means to an end.

A sensible post on the topic

 

[OneGreatClub]

The fix is absolutely in..democrats are rigging this election

Of course it is, of course it is
Trump You

 

[OneGreatClub]

Ah well I was thinking of getting off twitter.
Musk backed by the Saudis purchasing it could do the trick.

 

[Mutineer]

Everyone had a choice with vaccines, everyone. I understand you want to frame it is as 'real', that's what most people do when trying to be unaccountable.

Sure, you can deflect the fact that you are happy for any r*ped woman to be forced to keep a baby, or women with dead babies in their wombs, or partial miscarriages or catastrophic birth defects.

How you face your female family and try to compare a little injection to abortion is beyond me.as I said, having a penis doesn't make you a man.

Over the top even by your low standards.

 

[Slippery Pete]

The problem is that the experts are bought and paid for big pharma. They actually didn't get anything wrong as they didn't analyse anything, they were always being approved. They knew they were approving a faulty product in which more people died in the vaccinated group than the placebo group during the trials. A quick look into the Pfizer trial will prove this factually correct. This btw breaks there liability protection if it can be proven that they knowingly subjected people to a product they knew would injure and kill. The tax payer paid for the development of a faulty product which they were mostly forced to take and legally had no recourse against the government or big pharma. No wonder many politicians got in on this investment.

It's a very shortsighted grift by big pharma as although they cleaned up in the short term, in the long term many individuals will never trust them again with another vaccine or drug no matter how safe they are.

Is anyone actually still taking these shots?

I think even the Covid cult dickheads in here have sworn off them.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Bono, like most leftists, finally figures out the world at 62 years of age.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Your right. He is brilliant and I think he should run for the Presidency in '24.

Maybe there still are good and decent people in this world who see beyond the crap?
Maybe people have more insight and compassion than you think they do?
Maybe they realise he will continue to get better whereas Oz and MAGA cruelty and corruption is so ingrained it will never recover?
You never know.

 

[Slippery Pete]

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/pdfs/mm7114e1-H.pdf

n=15 million

“Cardiac complications were rare after SARS-CoV-2 infection or mRNA COVID-19 vaccination. However, the risks for these complications were higher after infection than after vaccination among males and females in all age groups. These findings provide important context for balancing risks and benefits of mRNA COVID-19 vaccination among eligible persons ≥5 years.”

View attachment 1543846

I look forward to you one day having that epiphany where you actually consider the other half of the equation around COVID and vaccination risks and benefits, instead of just the side that supports your illogical predetermined conclusions like that there was never anything to worry about with COVID anyway, COVID vaccines offer no benefit, etc.

That’s not ATAGI’s stance anymore. Maybe have a word to them about it?

From the article I posted:

ATAGI now says it is “uncertain” whether the risk of myocarditis following Covid-19 infection remains higher than the risk following vaccination in the male 16-40 age group.

 

[Cap]

Over the top even by your low standards.

Anything that makes a point is over the top for someone like you.

 

[footy4ever]

That’s not ATAGI’s stance anymore. Maybe have a word to them about it?

From the article I posted:

ATAGI now says it is “uncertain” whether the risk of myocarditis following Covid-19 infection remains higher than the risk following vaccination in the male 16-40 age group.

You kinda left this out.

"However, it told news.com.au the threat of the virus continues to outweigh any risk that comes with mRNA vaccines in the younger population."

You trickster.

 

[MrKK]

Ignore the weapons-grade gaslighting by Crist here, the important bit is we we have two candidates trying to prove to voters they were the more anti-lockdown. Lockdowns have been discredited to the point that it's political poison to support then.

 

[Slippery Pete]

that there was never anything to worry about with COVID anyway, COVID vaccines offer no benefit, etc.

If you can show me one post where I’ve said any of the above, I’ll delete my account.

That’s a pretty big incentive for you. Go ahead.

Any intellectually honest person knows I’ve said many times the vaccine should’ve been pursued, produced (“at the speed of science” - heh, thanks Pfizer) and then made available.

But NEVER mandated. For a thousand reasons, not least of all we didn’t know enough about it.

It should not have been mandated on 70% of the workforce, people should not have been locked out of stadiums, zoos, and shopping malls, and forced to choose the jab over their livelihood.

It is not too late for you to just admit this obvious truth. It is a truth that is going to be self-evident forever, it will never not be true, it will become more mainstream by the day as new data emerges. What happened with the vaccine rollout will always be wrong.

At some point you can either man up and admit it, or slink away and never mention it again.

Like people who supported the Iraq war.

 

[Slippery Pete]

You kinda left this out.

"However, it told news.com.au the threat of the virus continues to outweigh any risk that comes with mRNA vaccines in the younger population."

You trickster.

Yeah, history shows it’s probably only a matter of time until they reverse course on that too, isn’t it?

It‘s already started:

Dr Nick Coatsworth calls for review of COVID vaccines for children

Former deputy chief medical officer Dr Nick Coatsworth says the guidelines around COVID vaccines for children should be reviewed. Experts in the UK are no longer providing COVID vaccines to healthy children aged 5-11. Meanwhile, Sweden is not recommending the vaccine for teenagers aged 12-17...

www.2gb.com

 

[OneGreatClub]

Ignore the weapons-grade gaslighting by Crist here, the important bit is we we have two candidates trying to prove to voters they were the more anti-lockdown. Lockdowns have been discredited to the point that it's political poison to support then.

DeSantis happy to shut down women’s rights though, isn’t he.
Shut down rights to be gay.
Shut down rights to read certain books.
Freedom…sure…sure..

 

[OneGreatClub]

Wonder when Trump’s Mussolini Moment will occur, cheered on by CTID.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Is anyone actually still taking these shots?

I think even the Covid cult dickheads in here have sworn off them.

Joe Biden did. His 5th.