Unsolved The Beaumont Children

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Here's an "outside the square" thought. Is there a crazy chance Derek Percy and his father could have been complicit in this crime? It could account for the entirely different ages of the men allegedly witnessed near the children.. Could DP (aged 17.6) have been Jane's "boyfriend at the beach" and his father the mid-forties man seen playing with the children and asking about lost money? This could account for similar looks but confusing witness accounts regarding the ages of the suspect.

A really important aspect here is to note that DP's psychological profile as a killer has been deemed a real 'one-off'' and shows a forensic scatter pattern not matched anywhere else in the world. Part of this pattern must surely be genetic. DP was one of Australia's sickest criminals. Surely his traits didn't come from nowhere? Percy's own mother said the family "destroyed a lot of things" after Percy was arrested. A son and father acting together ticks a lot of boxes. We have no idea of the horrors and learned behaviours which may have taken place in the Percy household.

If it could be proven this nasty family were nearby at the time, we could have some answers.
He was certainly sick enough. I thought the man was 30 ish.
 
I have gained evidence that adds weight to my POI. This was all from family chatter, 60+ years after the event. I have been working on this since last year. I had to research My Heritage first to find the name of a victim. This was not straight forward. I just kept messaging random people, who I thought could help me. A person gave me the victims details- age, who she married, death, where she died, children's names and birth dates. Once I established the name, I looked up police records. I was able to link the police record to the information from family.
Confirming this information has placed my POI into a whole new realm of offending. I have now established that he is a child sex offender of at least 13 children. He involved at least one other person in some of his offences. He is now a rapist of at least one adult woman. I am working on a second one.
Hi family kept all this under wraps. He was never charged with rape.
I have spoken to a psychologist and a psychiatrist, who say that rape shows anger. They also mentioned this diversity is a whole different league of offending.
One step closer to proving my POI is a sick enough bastard to abduct and kill children.
 
I have gained evidence that adds weight to my POI. This was all from family chatter, 60+ years after the event. I have been working on this since last year. I had to research My Heritage first to find the name of a victim. This was not straight forward. I just kept messaging random people, who I thought could help me. A person gave me the victims details- age, who she married, death, where she died, children's names and birth dates. Once I established the name, I looked up police records. I was able to link the police record to the information from family.
Confirming this information has placed my POI into a whole new realm of offending. I have now established that he is a child sex offender of at least 13 children. He involved at least one other person in some of his offences. He is now a rapist of at least one adult woman. I am working on a second one.
Hi family kept all this under wraps. He was never charged with rape.
I have spoken to a psychologist and a psychiatrist, who say that rape shows anger. They also mentioned this diversity is a whole different league of offending.
One step closer to proving my POI is a sick enough bastard to abduct and kill children

1966 + 60 = 2026
 

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It's not solved, that's for sure. Harry Phipps is unlikely to have been involved due to him being investigated - and cleared - many times, despite what is said by people who write (and sell) books blaming him for the crime. It may not have been a Lone Wolf assailant. Maybe it was a couple of people working together. Some of the more notable POIs in the case (Munro, BSVE) were not even known to pursue female victims, so some of these suspects are rubbish. Any witnesses on the day are the most important pieces of the puzzle.
 
Three kids abduction simultaneously is extremely rare. To pull it off you would have to be able to subdue them.

* There would need to be familiarity and a degree of trust (from grooming). The witness accounts definitely seem to indicate that the kids knew the abductor if it were the man on Colley reserve

* A reason to use a car. The kids money was pinched. I suggest this was a ruse by the abductor themselves to then offer them a lift.

* Having convinced them to take a lift you would then need to keep them in the car until destination.. Either an associate or child proof locking

Arthur Brown a prime suspect used a blue Vauxhall Victor F series to abduct and kill Mackay sisters in 1970. It has an off colour driver's door. The F series was made between 1957 and 1961. In reading up on the model I was able to determine that the front doors could be locked with master key. The back doors had child proof locking allowing the door mechanism to free wheel when locked button was depressed.
 
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It's not solved, that's for sure. Harry Phipps is unlikely to have been involved due to him being investigated - and cleared - many times, despite what is said by people who write (and sell) books blaming him for the crime. It may not have been a Lone Wolf assailant. Maybe it was a couple of people working together. Some of the more notable POIs in the case (Munro, BSVE) were not even known to pursue female victims, so some of these suspects are rubbish. Any witnesses on the day are the most important pieces of the puzzle.
Correct it's not solved, probably never will be.
 
Three kids abduction simultaneously is extremely rare. To pull it off you would have to be able to subdue them.

* There would need to be familiarity and a degree of trust (from grooming). The witness accounts definitely seem to indicate that the kids knew the abductor if it were the man on Colley reserve

* A reason to use a car. The kids money was pinched. I suggest this was a ruse by the abductor themselves to then offer them a lift.

* Having convinced them to take a lift you would then need to keep them in the car until destination.. Either an associate or child proof locking

Arthur Brown a prime suspect used a blue Vauxhall Victor F series to abduct and kill Mackay sisters in 1970. It has an off colour driver's door. The F series was made between 1957 and 1961. In reading up on the model I was able to determine that the front doors could be locked with master key. The back doors had child proof locking allowing the door mechanism to free wheel when locked button was depressed.
yes, it really only had to be one child abducted, jane, the other two would follow her without question, this is why the "jane has a boyfriend at the beach" is a key, imo it's a boy of around jane's age, who introduced jane to his father, who, ultimately, became the abductor, at a later date, so much is made of the pinched money, this could easily have been a ruse made up for some reason by the scumbag
 
maybe the kids were not taken by pedophiles, maybe they were taken by someone they knew well that was some sort of religious nut, doomsday prepper etc who wanted to 'save' them - I mean, that is quite possible, isn't it?
 
More information relating to the Vauxhall Victor car Brown owned. Prior to the Mackay sister murders in 1970 Brown had replaced the driver door on his car with an off colour door. When he did that he buried the original. Not content with that some time later he dug up the car door and dumped it at the tip. His explanation was he "didn't want anyone asking questions about it"

Entirely possible then that the car door which was possibly used in some crime was important to him wanting to hide something. It wouldn't have been motivated by DNA too early. What then? Also what crime?

Well given his identakit match to BC case and AO case possibly BC in my opinion. As to why? I can't believe at 1966 he was too concerned with DNA evidence. No. So if DNA didn't spook him what did? Was it simply a dented door replaced? Then why did he bury and then dig up and dump the door? Very very strange behaviour. And why the cryptic comment as to discourage questioning (I presume police).

He clearly wanted everyone (especially police you assume) to believe it was just a dented door replacement. But it wasn't. It was more important for some reason. I'm thinking it wasn't dented at all and he replaced the door to facilitate his crimes (perhaps even BC). Did a newer model allow all door locking from the driver's door which could only be opened there. Perhaps the older model had a child proof locking but the depressed button release was still back seat. Perhaps he hid the door because it wasn't dented at all but he had the new model door with assembly locking mechanism to allow him to control lock from driver's seat alone. He was hiding the door because there wasn't a reason to replace it other than for a specialist locking mechanism. Just conjecture of course. There has to be a reason
 
More information relating to the Vauxhall Victor car Brown owned. Prior to the Mackay sister murders in 1970 Brown had replaced the driver door on his car with an off colour door. When he did that he buried the original. Not content with that some time later he dug up the car door and dumped it at the tip. His explanation was he "didn't want anyone asking questions about it"

Entirely possible then that the car door which was possibly used in some crime was important to him wanting to hide something. It wouldn't have been motivated by DNA too early. What then? Also what crime?

Well given his identakit match to BC case and AO case possibly BC in my opinion. As to why? I can't believe at 1966 he was too concerned with DNA evidence. No. So if DNA didn't spook him what did? Was it simply a dented door replaced? Then why did he bury and then dig up and dump the door? Very very strange behaviour. And why the cryptic comment as to discourage questioning (I presume police).

He clearly wanted everyone (especially police you assume) to believe it was just a dented door replacement. But it wasn't. It was more important for some reason. I'm thinking it wasn't dented at all and he replaced the door to facilitate his crimes (perhaps even BC). Did a newer model allow all door locking from the driver's door which could only be opened there. Perhaps the older model had a child proof locking but the depressed button release was still back seat. Perhaps he hid the door because it wasn't dented at all but he had the new model door with assembly locking mechanism to allow him to control lock from driver's seat alone. He was hiding the door because there wasn't a reason to replace it other than for a specialist locking mechanism. Just conjecture of course. There has to be a reason
It is peculiar behavior regarding a car door, seems like he had something to hide, maybe a blood soaked door liner? but replacing just the drivers door would do nothing to the other doors without adding new wiring and newly installed locking actuators in all the doors. If it had child proof locking it would have been the old manual locking style.
 
It is peculiar behavior regarding a car door, seems like he had something to hide, maybe a blood soaked door liner? but replacing just the drivers door would do nothing to the other doors without adding new wiring and newly installed locking actuators in all the doors. If it had child proof locking it would have been the old manual locking style.

I've been racking my brain to understand it. It smacks of wanting to hide something but don't know what. Red flag definitely.

If it were dented. Zero reason to bury it. Blood soaked door liner could be. But surely you'd strip the lining and then replace it. Unless blood stains had seeped right through. I'm at a loss really.

I'm thinking that maybe you're right. It seeped right through inner workings of the car door and he decided to just get a new door.

So someone was murdered in the front seat of his car ???
 
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I've been racking my brain to understand it. It smacks of wanting to hide something but don't know what. Red flag definitely.

If it were dented. Zero reason to bury it. Blood soaked door liner could be. But surely you'd strip the lining and then replace it. Unless blood stains had seeped right through. I'm at a loss really.

I'm thinking that maybe you're right. It seeped right through inner workings of the car door and he decided to just get a new door.

So someone was murdered in the front seat of his car ???
Hypothetically, If the back doors are disabled fron the inside then only way out without going through a window (perhaps disabled also) is through the front doors. If the driver was exiting the vehicle then that could be the time to try and get out, through the already opened drivers door, if caught in the attempt... the drivers door becomes a murder weapon...
 

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