Society & Culture The BigFooty Guide to getting the woman of Your Desire (Part 7)

[Cruyff14]

Alright mate. Guess I'll go with "Hey, I've gotten an invite somewhere else for tomorrow afternoon, but I'd really prefer to hang out with you instead if you want to. It's totally cool if you're not up for it, I just need to know so I can get things sorted. "

Don't say you'd prefer to hang out with her.

 

[JCore]

Right, I'll just go with the initial message I had planned, except the last part replaced with "I just need to know so I can get things sorted."

 

[Caesar]

Just ring her and ask her. Easier than worrying how a message will be interpreted.

 

[Cruyff14]

Calling is too direct.

 

[Caesar]

...I don't see how that's a bad thing.

 

[Cruyff14]

...I don't see how that's a bad thing.

Well she's 17, not 27. May seem too full on.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

If she's a decent human she'll man up and take the call.

 

[Poetic Justice]

Most humans these days are not decent.

And despite everyones desire for it to not be the case, texting is the accepted norm. To quote season three of Community "OMG, she's using her phone as a PHONE!"

 

[Thistle]

Calling displays confidence. Speak clearly to make it seem like it's something you do all the time and it will provide way better results than texting.

 

[DrVanNostrand]

If you call, for goodness' sake chew an apple throughout. Makes you seem casual.

 

[Werewolf]

Most humans these days are not decent.

And despite everyones desire for it to not be the case, texting is the accepted norm. To quote season three of Community "OMG, she's using her phone as a PHONE!"

Unfortunately I can relate to this... hate it when a girl ignores me. It's very rude

I'd prefer if she admitted she's not interested because I'm boring/scrawny/ugly...

 

[Stratton_Gun]

I would say leave it although that wink face my have ruined your chances. She probably thinks you just want to get in and thats all

 

[Poetic Justice]

Unfortunately I can relate to this... hate it when a girl ignores me. It's very rude

I'd prefer if she admitted she's not interested because I'm boring/scrawny/ugly...

Speaking of that, for any Facebook users here, anyone frustrated with the messenger program that now tells you when someone has read your message?

Now it even tells you the last time they were online. Ergo, chick recently has seen my messages several times and not replied. !&^%#@&*!%@56

 

[Cruyff14]

Speaking of that, for any Facebook users here, anyone frustrated with the messenger program that now tells you when someone has read your message?

Now it even tells you the last time they were online. Ergo, chick recently has seen my messages several times and not replied. !&^%#@&*!%@56

Speaking of FB, has it stopped showing people on the LEFT handside of your newsfeed who you would speak to a lot on chat etc?

 

[mojito]

Speaking of that, for any Facebook users here, anyone frustrated with the messenger program that now tells you when someone has read your message?

Now it even tells you the last time they were online. Ergo, chick recently has seen my messages several times and not replied. !&^%#@&*!%@56

I love FB messenger. Means I don't have to have fb as a page open and get distracted by people's bullshit

 

[Poetic Justice]

Oh, i appreciate the convenience of it, but my point still stands re knowing that people are simply ignoring you

 

[muttweed]

Reading the last couple of pages in this thread, wow you guys are insecure.

1. Stop making excuses for yourself. There is no such thing as the friendzone. She either likes you or she doesn't. I have a load of guy friends, as one of those girls who grew up around boys; they are not automatically placed in my non-existent "Do Not Want, Value Their Friendship Too Much" category. If he's attractive and has a good heart, I will happily oblige!

Men always complain about how complicated we are, when in reality I doubt you've ever seen a woman possessive enough to categorize every man they meet into "zones".

2. If you have to act a certain way to get a chick, what the hell is the point?

I laughed at the suggestion of eating an apple while talking on the phone. I hate, above all, the sound of people chewing or munching. I think you'll discover that it is in fact quite hard to find a woman who listens to a guy chewing an apple on the phone and thinks to herself "Omg he's so casual, I'm SO turned on!!"

3. You're training people to be complete arseholes. I know you guys are all out for the vag, but for those who aren't: don't be jerks. If you're looking for a woman to spend the rest of your life with and act like a bitch to achieve that, I guarantee that you will not get your happy ever after.

I would give anything to have lived in the olden days where guys were more romantic and gentlemanly, probably two of the main qualities I look for if I feel like looking for a long term partner. I think it's pretty rare to find nowadays, which bloody sucks. That combined with the general sluttiness of a lot of women these days does not make for a long-lived relationship.

I would say something along the lines of "I hope I'll find my Prince Charming one day" but in this day and age you're all bound to laugh and scrutinise me for looking for good qualities in a guy.

Anyway.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

1. Stop making excuses for yourself. There is no such thing as the friendzone. She either likes you or she doesn't. I have a load of guy friends, as one of those girls who grew up around boys; they are not automatically placed in my non-existent "Do Not Want, Value Their Friendship Too Much" category. If he's attractive and has a good heart, I will happily oblige!

Men always complain about how complicated we are, when in reality I doubt you've ever seen a woman possessive enough to categorize every man they meet into "zones".

Thank you!

I told my mates this the other day - the 'friend zone' is the invention of the rejected male

I mean - obviously if you're really close with someone as a friend it's different, but I've seen guys claim that a girl they barely know has 'friend zoned' them.

 

[muttweed]

Thank you!

I told my mates this the other day - the 'friend zone' is the invention of the rejected male.

And females are the supposed emotional ones.

We are all as ****ed up as each other.

 

[Caesar]

1. Stop making excuses for yourself. There is no such thing as the friendzone. She either likes you or she doesn't.

That's not really true. I think you misunderstand what people mean by the friendzone. Plenty of girls are quite happy to have very close, emotionally-intimate friendships with a male (similar to what they have with female best friends) even if they are not particularly interested in sleeping with them.

OTOH a male will not, for example, stay up until 4am talking to a girl on the telephone unless he wants to sleep with her.

It's not really anything novel. More a function of the fact that female friendships are different to male friendships. The way women treat their close friends is not something that men are used to outside of a romantic relationship, so naturally there is a lot of scope for confusion.

 

[raven echo]

I laughed at the suggestion of eating an apple while talking on the phone. I hate, above all, the sound of people chewing or munching. I think you'll discover that it is in fact quite hard to find a woman who listens to a guy chewing an apple on the phone and thinks to herself "Omg he's so casual, I'm SO turned on!!"

It's a joke from Seinfeld. Good old George Costanza dating advice lol

 

[Poetic Justice]

1. Stop making excuses for yourself. There is no such thing as the friendzone. She either likes you or she doesn't. I have a load of guy friends, as one of those girls who grew up around boys; they are not automatically placed in my non-existent "Do Not Want, Value Their Friendship Too Much" category. If he's attractive and has a good heart, I will happily oblige!

You miss the point. There of course is such thing as a friend zone and you describe it in this very paragraph.

If he's unattractive and has a good heart then what is he? A friend?

....

Put simply, if he's unattractive and a ripper bloke, whilst you would not want to date him you definitely do enjoy being friends with him. Friendzone. It's a simple situation, people just make a big deal out of it.

 

[muttweed]

That's not really true. I think you misunderstand what people mean by the friendzone. Plenty of girls are quite happy to have very close, emotionally-intimate friendships with a male (similar to what they have with female best friends) even if they are not particularly interested in sleeping with them.

Of course. Girls are very open to close friendships with boys. That doesn't necessarily mean that the guy is out of the dating equation though. I would know, as my friendbase is about 65-70% men.

So I am telling you, as the proud owner of a vaginal specimen, the only reasons a girl would put a relationship out of the question are
1. Because she doesn't like the way he goes about things
2. Because she is not necessarily attracted to him.
It will NEVER, EVER be because "she just wants to stay friends". EVER.

It has little to do with each gender's ideas of friendship; if she likes you, she'll be down for a relationship no matter what. If she doesn't like you, then you need to either look at someone else or do a lot of reevaluating of yourself. Women are generally quite open to romance.

 

[muttweed]

You miss the point. There of course is such thing as a friend zone and you describe it in this very paragraph.

If he's unattractive and has a good heart then what is he? A friend?

....

Put simply, if he's unattractive and a ripper bloke, whilst you would not want to date him you definitely do enjoy being friends with him. Friendzone. It's a simple situation, people just make a big deal out of it.

Boys see being put in the friendzone as the REASON they have little luck with women. Why else would 80% of the people in this thread instruct boys to be arseholes then?

Fact is, the REASON she's not dating you is because you may have a premature potbelly...an unhealthy obsession with your cat...a shit fashion sense. The REASON is neveeer because she wants to stay friends

 

[muttweed]

It's a joke from Seinfeld. Good old George Costanza dating advice lol

Nostalgia'd hard