Roast The Brownlow has no credibility left

[Sttew]

He still had to be in the best players on the ground whether the rest of Carlton sucked or not.

End of the day Cripps and Daicos were comfortably the most consistent players this season and rightly have split most of the season awards between them.

Cripps is a deserving winner. No question. But 45 votes? When you consider greats like Williams, Wanganeen and Goodes won with around 18 - 20 votes. It’s like the umpires cant see past certain players who are mids. It’s just a trend in the past decade, and not a criticism of Cripps. He’s a beast and great captain.

 

[Cleansweep17]

You are making good points why the brownlow needs to go.

Winning an award by so much simply because your in a team with no other good mids means the award is deeply flawed.

Do you feel that way about GAJs Brownlow at the GC?

I thought you guys say it’s more impressive if somebody carries a team.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Cripps is a deserving winner. No question. But 45 votes? When you consider greats like Williams, Wanganeen and Goodes won with around 18 - 20 votes. It’s like the umpires cant see past certain players who are mids. It’s just a trend in the past decade, and not a criticism of Cripps. He’s a beast and great captain.

45 was higher than expected but using any decent analysis of his season it was obvious he'd be around the high 30s/early 40s mark. Stars just aligned for him this year, highly doubt we see another year like it for some time.

An anomaly like this year shouldn't change how the award is done.

 

[Sttew]

45 was higher than expected but using any decent analysis of his season it was obvious he'd be around the high 30s/early 40s mark. Stars just aligned for him this year, highly doubt we see another year like it for some time.

An anomaly like this year shouldn't change how the award is done.

Only thing I reckon is umpires should have access to stats before voting. Avoid mistaken identity

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Only thing I reckon is umpires should have access to stats before voting. Avoid mistaken identity

Id agree on that

 

[JackOutback]

45 was higher than expected but using any decent analysis of his season it was obvious he'd be around the high 30s/early 40s mark. Stars just aligned for him this year, highly doubt we see another year like it for some time.

An anomaly like this year shouldn't change how the award is done.

His team lost half their games and he was still polling top votes. In the past he would have got 1 at most and players that helped their team actually win the game would have got the rest.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

His team lost half their games and he was still polling top votes. In the past he would have got 1 at most and players that helped their team actually win the game would have got the rest.

He was clearly BOG in many of those games

 

[ferball]

I can't be bothered reading this entire thread but is anyone seriously begrudging Cripps winning the Brownlow? I get that the voting seems completely skewed these days and there's certainly discussion to be had around that aspect of the Brownlow. But Cripps for mine is absolutely a deserved winner.

Its not that Cripps shouldn't have won, its more should he have been awarded twice as many votes as Bontempelli?

 

[Dazzler9]

If you want to know how much prestige the Brownlow Medal deserves, refer to it as The Umpires' Medal instead.

 

[WillHayward]

Absolutely zero credibility in my eyes.
Confusing Nick Daicos with his brother.
Three votes every time Cripps went on the ground even when he was shit .
No votes for Brent Daniels

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Brent Daniels

Age

25

Ht

172cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.4

3star

D

10.3

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

1.9

2star

T

1.9

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

9.0

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.8

4star

when he was BOG by 200 miles.
It's amateur and embarrassing.
Umps have a hard job already..they clearly have no clue which players are doing what while they are focussed on officiating.

 

[Partridge]

Cripps is a deserving winner. No question. But 45 votes? When you consider greats like Williams, Wanganeen and Goodes won with around 18 - 20 votes. It’s like the umpires cant see past certain players who are mids. It’s just a trend in the past decade, and not a criticism of Cripps. He’s a beast and great captain.

It started moving up at exactly the same time Supercoach and things of that ilk became prominent - around 2008ish.

2005 - Ben Cousins won it with 20 votes
2009 - Bartel won it with 29 votes
2011 - Swan won it with 34 votes

It then regressed back slightly the next three years - all under 30 for Mitchell/Cotchin, Ablett, and Priddis. Since then though, the average winner has been polling 33.5 votes.