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No outrage would mean that we accept diving as a part of our game. No one wants that, thus the outrage.
The Clayton Oliver Statistical Analysis Thread
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re-opening, removed several posts that werent really necessary. Tone it down and be civil people.
That's the problem here, in a nutshell. You're asserting that he dived, and going on from there to justify the response.
You don't know for certain that he dived. On the other hand, what we do know for certain is that (i) the guy who hit him has been suspended for a week for high contact, (ii) that there was medical report that was taken into consideration, and that (iii) Oliver hasn't been charged for diving.
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Yes, we really do.
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When I'm sick i go to the doctor and he says, whats wrong. I say I'm sick and he says yeah you're sick and asks how much time I need off work.
2 days I tell him and he says nah I think you need more and gives me a week.
Same with my compo claim for a sore back. He kept it open for longer than I'd thought he would and had to tell him to close it.
Doctors do 2 things.
1. Give you more time to get over your injury or sickness than you actually need.
2. Listen to what you tell them and base their report off that.
Why??
Because it's all about litigation and covering their arse.
The doctor didn't lie, he listened to the diver and diagnosed higher than the actual injury sustained to cover any chance of misdiagnosis or litigation.
After all, he really could have a fractured jaw from that tickle schofield gave him.
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Are you joking? The only seriously embarrassing thing to take from this is Clayton Olivers' antics.
No one is up in arms. The kid has done himself no favours; his response to Damien Martyn wasn't called for. It was one of those "better to say nothing and let people think you're an idiot than reply and remove all doubt" moments.
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Precisely. I'm on board with that. And the supporters who have said: wasn't a good look and hope it doesn't happen again, I agree with. It's the supporters who are performing mental gymnastics to try and represent a scenario wherein it's lucky Oliver got back to his feet, let alone played out the game that are receiving responses.
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I am serious. He was hit outside the time in which the game was being played. I don't care who you think he went down like, that's not on. It's assault is what it is, and the only reason it hasn't been called that is because they were wearing colourful jumpers.
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A dive gets schofield rubbed out for a week yet viney concussing our captain with a hip to the head leaving him in doubt for next week doesn't even get looked at... Something smells at AFL house..
If somebody hits you from the left hand side which way do you normally fall? Why did he fall to the same way he got hit? Why did he pause after he got hit for a moment then fall over when he wasn't knocked out/concussed? I don't understand why anyone is even pretending for a moment he didn't at the very least exaggerate the hit. He took a dive and everyone knows it.
He's only 19...for this reason no posters, commentators, ex-cricketers or coachers are allowed to criticise him.
To be fair I think viney's hit was in the contest as part of what football is, the results were unfortunate but it was a fair enough contest. Clayton deserves a 1 week suspension for diving though under the inciting a melee rule. Absolutely insipid display, he's made a fool of himself at a national level.
How does trump have anything to do with any of this? Grasping at straws because you can't seem to come up with a logical counterargument, very trump-like wouldn't you say?
I guess you disagree with the rest of my post then too and Viney's bump deserves weeks given it's rubbed our captain out for that long?
If we are going down that line, Oliver shoving Shuey in the chest prior to that is also assault, by definition.
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