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AFLW 2024 - Round 7 - Pride Round - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Pretty laughable given your posting efforts pre-2014 GF. Swans were going to walk it in according to you. Hasn't been a bigger humiliation on GF day for decades.Must suck having to crows this much about being top of the ladder at round 6 and having no actual success to talk about.
Although there is no advantage in finishing top of the ladder by percentage or finishing top clear by x number of games, there advantage that comes with being x number of games clear towards the end of the season is the ability to rest, rotate and manage players. This is especially important for a team that travels every second week and has a number of key players in the twilight of their careers.
So, hopefully, it means the team is better prepared come finals time, better than in previous years.
Of course this is all pointless if freo start losing games, and it's only round 6. Nothings been achieved yet.
IIRC West Coast have been top of the ladder more often than any other club during their existence.Freo has been sensational but WC's history is littered with sensational starts better than 6 nil, where thereafter a long season of travelling has proven too much.
It is simply a Herculean effort to win a GF when coming out of Perth and top 2 is simply a must that gives you a better than even chance providing you are not up against a Melbourne based club.
The GF being held is Melbourne only, is one of the most blatant rigging of results in any sport that considers itself a serious code.
It was all part of the plan to give up seven goals in a row and only score two goals in a half including going goalless for a quarter and a half? I have to say, I'm doubtfulYou're giving Swans too much credit that game. Swans only came back because we pulled back, like we have with a lead against every team this year.
Geelong actually went into that GF as favourites.Interestingly of the last 7 sides to finish the season 2+ games clear at the top only 3 have gone on to win the flag.
2009 - Saints - lost
2008 - Geelong - lost
2007 - Geelong - won
2003 - Port - lost
2000 - Dons - won
1995 - Blues - won
1991 - WCE - lost
Of those all bar the Cats lost to the dominant team of the era.
Looking back at that list the bolded really should have won that year, they were that much better. That's pressure for you.
Coming from a Sydney fan your team played the most boring style of footy of all time in 05-06.And it will be most boring premiership of all time.
Yeah that was interesting - Cats had the far better finals series, and far fewer injury concerns. And, after the home and away match of the century, Cats decided to rest players, and lost a few more games after that, while St Kilda powered on. St Kilda's 20-2 form was no better than Geelong's 18-4 (which is still a fantastic win-loss rate in any given year).Geelong actually went into that GF as favourites.
What is interesting is that many of those who won it were 6-0 at the same stage, despite not being first. Geelong 2011, Geelong 2009 and Hawthorn 2008 all were 6-0 in their premiership years.Using the ladder on the AFL website you can look at what the ladder looked like in the following years at after round 6.
In the last 14 seasons only 6 times (italics) has the team sitting 1st after round 6 gone on to play in the GF. Only twice has that team gone on to win the flag (bolded). And you'll notice that both those times they've gone on to win the flag they didn't even have all 6 wins. The 4 teams that went on to lose the GF were 6-0.
The season is a marathon. Recent history suggests that if you're going to burst away from the pack it's more likely that it won't work out for you at the end of the season. I'm not saying Fremantle can't win it - they can - but this stat doesn't support it.
YEAR | 1st place @ end of round 6 | Premier
2014 Port Adelaide 5-1, Hawthorn
2013 Essendon 6-0, Hawthorn
2012 West Coast 6-0, Sydney
2011 Collingwood 6-0, Geelong
2010 Sydney 5-1, Collingwood
2009 St Kilda 6-0, Geelong
2008 Geelong 6-0, Hawthorn
2007 West Coast 6-0, Geelong
2006 Collingwood 5-1, West Coast
2005 West Coast 6-0, Sydney
2004 St Kilda 6-0, Port Adelaide
2003 Brisbane 5-0-1, Brisbane
2002 Brisbane 5-1, Brisbane
2001 Hawthorn 6-0, Brisbane
At this point in the season the stat says that. I personally feel supremely confident going into each game. I'd be shocked to lose until round 14. I'm sure Hawks could feel the same, but as you said the competition is more even and the results aren't giving Hawks fans that assurance. I'm just maintaining unlike you that fremantle sits outside of that criteria (evenness) and the results show this. Played 4 of the 2014 top 8, 2 of the top 4 already.
I agree with you in most of the games I watch I think that "it could go either way" based on results seen this is true. And hence in our games based on results we are winning everything we play so my confidence is getting validated.
Everyone is right results and form in the finals matters most. But its a stark position and prediction we could be up to 4 games clear of SECOND by years end if 2-14 keep beating each other up.
You're giving Swans too much credit that game. Swans only came back because we pulled back, like we have with a lead against every team this year.
And when the Swans actually reached a point they could take the lead back, Freo switched on again and we should of won by 3 or 4 goals more, the score flattered the Swans. You weren't any more of a threat than any team we've played this year.
Swans are certainly a strong team but using that game doesn't help your argument.
Your obsession is noted.freo didnt pull back. swans changed how they played, are you not concerned that sydney got back into the game using the same game plan as hawthorn in 2013. short kicks laterally cut through your zone
freo have been in the media this week saying that didnt pull back against melbourne, so i'm not sure where you this idea from
From who? You? We can disregard your thoughts on Fremantle.this is why freo supporters have a bad wrap lately
Rightly so as well, we've not won a thing yet and it's still early days.this is why freo supporters have a bad wrap lately
I agree with this completely. Few sides cruise to premierships.Their a top chance - however what i think - is they lack a real ruthless killer instinct
That game against West Coast at Subiaco - they should have annihilated - totally destroyed West Coast by about 120 points - they had them on their knees - then they ease up and just cruise to the line - West Coast should have been a shattered blooody rabble at the end of that game - full of mental demons - but they wernt - Freo let them off the look
The same thing happened against Essendon - the Bombers didnt do anything special in the last qtr - however Freo are happy to just cruise home - when the games safe - they dont go for the kill
You go back through Premiership teams - who had great eras - right back to Richmond in the late 60s - early 70s - all of them were feared - because they use to totally destroy teams - Freo dont do that
When did Freo last beat any opposition side by over 100 points ?
Rightly so as well, we've not won a thing yet and it's still early days.
But if you're going to talk about bad wraps, why not tone down your incredibly loud mission to discredit Ross Lyon. Everyone knows the Saints had public boardroom issues during that period, and while the way Ross walked out wasn't exactly the most desirable of ways there's still food for thought there. The man is a good coach and by the looks of the season so far, may have finally realised his game plan needs changing.
So to tie in everything I just said, under Ross Lyon you went 19-0 and still lost the big one. That could happen to us, perhaps we don't even get that far or maybe finally Ross gets the premiership that he should of probably got with you guys. But he's still a good coach mate.
freo didnt pull back. swans changed how they played, are you not concerned that sydney got back into the game using the same game plan as hawthorn in 2013. short kicks laterally cut through your zone
freo have been in the media this week saying that didnt pull back against melbourne, so i'm not sure where you this idea from
Their a top chance - however what i think - is they lack a real ruthless killer instinct
That game against West Coast at Subiaco - they should have annihilated - totally destroyed West Coast by about 120 points - they had them on their knees - then they ease up and just cruise to the line - West Coast should have been a shattered blooody rabble at the end of that game - full of mental demons - but they wernt - Freo let them off the look
The same thing happened against Essendon - the Bombers didnt do anything special in the last qtr - however Freo are happy to just cruise home - when the games safe - they dont go for the kill
You go back through Premiership teams - who had great eras - right back to Richmond in the late 60s - early 70s - all of them were feared - because they use to totally destroy teams - Freo dont do that
When did Freo last beat any opposition side by over 100 points ?
Freo has been sensational but WC's history is littered with sensational starts better than 6 nil, where thereafter a long season of travelling has proven too much.
It is simply a Herculean effort to win a GF when coming out of Perth and top 2 is simply a must that gives you a better than even chance providing you are not up against a Melbourne based club.