The Good Things About Dean Laidleys' as Coach of the NMFC.

[DarwinRoo]

I put it to you that you can never except the fact that the players have as much say in how their career pans out as a coach does and if a player doesn't turn out to be any good you quickly blame the coach for not developing the player properly rather than looking at the player.

I'll give you someone who I think would have been a better player under a more attacking coach. Daniel Wells.

And so this gets us back to Dean Laidleys. What has been his success record in developing players? Inconsistant I say at best. This is not good enough IMO.[/quote]

Thankyou for helping me make my point.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

I'll give you someone who I think would have been a better player under a more attacking coach. Daniel Wells.

And so this gets us back to Dean Laidleys. What has been his success record in developing players? Inconsistant I say at best. This is not good enough IMO.[/quote]

Thankyou for helping me make my point.

Um, that doesn't necessarily prove your point. It is still just your opinions vs Zondors.

On Buckley... I'm not 100% on him being the choice. However, I'm 100% on the risk. And I'm 100% on the change. Laidley has stopped being the way... I'm happy, with our list as exciting as it is, to excite more with a new man in charge. For mine, Buckleys appointment would be more about a new horizon, with a fresh North. That is what would excite me.

 

[Chadwiko]

On Buckley... I'm not 100% on him being the choice. However, I'm 100% on the risk. And I'm 100% on the change. Laidley has stopped being the way... I'm happy, with our list as exciting as it is, to excite more with a new man in charge. For mine, Buckleys appointment would be more about a new horizon, with a fresh North. That is what would excite me.

Well summed up.

New playing list
New facilities
New administration
New coach (please)

 

[DarwinRoo]

Um, that doesn't necessarily prove your point. It is still just your opinions vs Zondors.

On Buckley... I'm not 100% on him being the choice. However, I'm 100% on the risk. And I'm 100% on the change. Laidley has stopped being the way... I'm happy, with our list as exciting as it is, to excite more with a new man in charge. For mine, Buckleys appointment would be more about a new horizon, with a fresh North. That is what would excite me.

So in the Wells situation who is Zondor blaming? The coach. Who did I say Zondor is most likely to blame if a player doesn't reach their potential? The coach.

Game. Set. Match.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

So in the Wells situation who is Zondor blaming? The coach. Who did I say Zondor is most likely to blame if a player doesn't reach their potential? The coach.

Game. Set. Match.

Yeah, but he could be right.

Because, of course, its your opinion versus his. And one of them is an arseh*le.

 

[DarwinRoo]

Yeah, but he could be right.

Because, of course, its your opinion versus his. And one of them is an arseh*le.

And he could be very wrong especially when it seems to be that every player who Zondor rates who doesn't reach the lofty heights put on him is said to have not been developed properly.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

And he could be very wrong especially when it seems to be that every player who Zondor rates who doesn't reach the lofty heights put on him is said to have not been developed properly.

Yeah, but so could you.

 

[Zondor]

Um, that doesn't necessarily prove your point. It is still just your opinions vs Zondors.

Exactly Filth.

It is funny isn't it? Dean Laidleys has done no wrong in DR's eyes. Look I'll raise my hand and say that I've been an ardent critic of Dean Laidleys but in this thread I've attempted to acknowledge the good that Dean Laidleys has done.

Let's go back to this development issue. Guys like Vinnie Mac, Big H, MBop Hansen and Josh Gibson have all improved under Dean Laidleys' guidance. I raise my hand and admit that. I raise my hand and admit that not all is wrong with Dean Laidleys' coaching. I think the truth of the matter is that he has been a somewhat inconsistent coach who has been hamstrung by salary cap and facility/resource issues. We have had some great wins under his guidance. We have had some terrible losses under his guidance. We have made finals. We have had terrible seasons. All signs of inconsistency.

But guys like DR struggle to acknowledge any of the faults of Dean Laidleys. Let’s remember the guy's coaching record is under 50%. He has made mistakes. He aint perfect. He has many faults.

After 7 years it is time to move on. Some will disagree. I for one am done with the mediocrity. That's what Dean Laidleys is. A mediocre coach.

On Buckley... I'm not 100% on him being the choice. However, I'm 100% on the risk. And I'm 100% on the change. Laidley has stopped being the way... I'm happy, with our list as exciting as it is, to excite more with a new man in charge. For mine, Buckleys appointment would be more about a new horizon, with a fresh North. That is what would excite me.

I agree whole heartedly. I want North to be the best it can be. All options for the coaching position at the NMFC must be explored. We don’t have the best coach at the minute. That is a fact.

 

[Wednesday]

I have worked it out and you are making things up. Did you happen to notice that Corey's manager never said anything about Jones being upset about his name being put up for trade unlike McIntosh's?
Did you happen to notice that nobody was suprised by the fact that Jones name was mentioned in trade talks?

Have you read todays article from Caro? I guess she's making things up also.

 

[DarwinRoo]

Have you read todays article from Caro? I guess she's making things up also.

It wouldn't be the first time would it.

You are really scraping the bottom of the barrell if you are using Caro for your source of information about the footy club.

 

[Wednesday]

It wouldn't be the first time would it.

You are really scraping the bottom of the barrell if you are using Caro for your source of information about the footy club.

Given her acticle was written after i posted, its a bit hard for her to be my source. It does however confirm 1. what i told you about Jones and Laidley having a falling out, and 2. that yet again you have no idea what your talking about.

 

[DarwinRoo]

Given her acticle was written after i posted, its a bit hard for her to be my source. It does however confirm 1. what i told you about Jones and Laidley having a falling out, and 2. that yet again you have no idea what your talking about.

1. It does not confirm anything as it is a Caroline Wilson article. Let me guess you believe the club was really offered $100 million to relocate to the GC?

2. The only person who has been proven that they have no idea what they are talking about is you.

3. Stop reading the Age.

4. Notice that Jones is back in the seniors for the second time this year and Harris is in again. Yep Dean is really letting those "rifts" he has with players get in the way of choosing the side.

 

[Wednesday]

1. It does not confirm anything as it is a Caroline Wilson article. Let me guess you believe the club was really offered $100 million to relocate to the GC?

2. The only person who has been proven that they have no idea what they are talking about is you.

3. Stop reading the Age.

4. Notice that Jones is back in the seniors for the second time this year and Harris is in again. Yep Dean is really letting those "rifts" he has with players get in the way of choosing the side.

Yawn.

 

[Rooboy 96]

Yeah shame he "can't do it" for over 50% of the games we play in.

bit of a smart arse comment... you do realise in the history of our game across all team only 32 coaches have had a better winning ratio???

 

[Rooboy 96]

Given her acticle was written after i posted, its a bit hard for her to be my source. It does however confirm 1. what i told you about Jones and Laidley having a falling out, and 2. that yet again you have no idea what your talking about.

having USC as your confirming source or sauce... wow that is a new one... I'm impressed...

 

[Giveadogabone]

The Laidleys maybe an astute operator after all, his effort or photo op, to sit and cast a sad shadow on the bench by himself before the game will surely make the papers tomorrow.

 

[Rooboy 96]

Am I missing some in joke??? why do those against the Laidley camp... refer to him as Laidleys??? or is it they don't know how to spell his name???

 

[tazaa]

The good thing about JYD is that he cares.
3 goals 6??
I love that he cares

 

[Rooboy 96]

The good thing about JYD is that he cares.
3 goals 6??
I love that he cares

this thread is about his overall performance as a coach... surely there will be enough threads about sacking Laidley cause we lost a game... no need to come here Tazza...

 

[Mordecai]

Good press conference today.

-Can't get by on endeavour alone in todays football.
-Looked at how the Crows played, but in the end we have to play our own way.
-Full of praise for Simpson, highlighting that he really knows the feel of the playing group and what they need. Understands the club's culture.

 

[Giveadogabone]

Am I missing some in joke??? why do those against the Laidley camp... refer to him as Laidleys??? or is it they don't know how to spell his name???

Stats man. Is there another coach in the AFL with a 0-8 record against another coach? This has to be a record of some sort.
Is it a fruitless exercise resigning a coach that brings a guaranteed flogging versus Adelaide?

 

[Rooboy 96]

Stats man. Is there another coach in the AFL with a 0-8 record against another coach? This has to be a record of some sort.
Is it a fruitless exercise resigning a coach that brings a guaranteed flogging versus Adelaide?

lucky for port the league did not ask that question when they were zip 10 against us... really is there a need in the league for a club that brings a guaranteed flogging versus North... there are no such thing as guarantees in football...

 

[Rooboy 96]

btw Giveadogabone... just amazes me how you found that to be the answer of my question... if it was not the answer wtf quote me???

 

[Giveadogabone]

If Melbourne kick 71 points next week we will have kicked the lowest total points for after 12 rounds.
Melbourne are tanking and dont have a big forward.

 

[Rooboy 96]

so is that why he is called Laidleys??? thanks Giveadogabone it all makes sense now mate...