Autopsy The Grand Final - Take it apart here

[Stencorp69]

LRT holding the ball non-decision was appalling and at a crucial time.

There were numerous poor decisions for both teams but at the end of the game your kickers need to spend time practicing goal kicking, it was the only area of the game that let the Hawks down. Despite the Melbourne press reporting the Hawks blew it, there wasn't a coin toss between the two teams in the last half of the season and apart from maybe Geelong, the Hawks had no other challengers this season.

Today the loss sucks but the good thing about footy is there is always next year, so BOL next season - maybe a GF replay.

 

[PAOKTSIS]

There were numerous poor decisions for both teams but at the end of the game your kickers need to spend time practicing goal kicking, it was the only area of the game that let the Hawks down. Despite the Melbourne press reporting the Hawks blew it, there wasn't a coin toss between the two teams in the last half of the season and apart from maybe Geelong, the Hawks had no other challengers this season.

Today the loss sucks but the good thing about footy is there is always next year, so BOL next season - maybe a GF replay.

I wish your mob beat us by 10 goals instead of 10 points...maybe then the loss would not have been so painful haha.

I have a lot of time for some of your players...especially Joey Kennedy and Hannebery. Absolute beasts the both of them!

 

[Stencorp69]

I wish your mob beat us by 10 goals instead of 10 points...maybe then the loss would not have been so painful haha.

I know how you feel - living in Perth and loosing to the West Coke in 2006 by a point was hard to take.

 

[crawf_legend]

Gutted. It was always going to be a tough contest in the middle of the ground and at times we controlled it, at times they controlled it.

We had our chances yesterday. We wasted them. Sydney made use of the opportunities they had in front of goal. We didn't. Franklin (although one of our best) should have been accurate yesterday. He missed 5 shots - you can't do that in a GF and expect to win. Rough with 3 behinds. The 50m penalty that gave us a shot at goal from an easy spot in the 4th - we wasted that as well. Sewell had the 2 behinds in the final term. It's quite clear to me that we had the chance - we could have and should have won; but our kicking in front of goal is the reason why we lost yesterday. That needs to be worked on over the long break.

Can I also say how aggravated I was with the 50m penalty given to McVeigh against Mitch. McVeigh MILKED that for all it was worth. Credit to him - you created an opportunity for your team but seriously. Shit like that is what gets to me.

Sewell was brilliant. Franklin was great in the 3rd - got us back in the game.

Sydney are a force. An underrated force at that. Credit to them - I had told myself I think from a few rounds into this season that it would be Swans/Hawks in Sept. They have some skilled players. Goodes is an absolute legend. Deserving.

PS - I actually sat in the Sydney faithful bay. It was.. a nightmare to put it nicely (except for the 3rd quarter - I'll admit they all turned to stone). A friend of mine got us some tix.. we rock up and I kid you not - nothing but RED ponchos and unfriendly people looking at us as if we were in a cage at the zoo. 'How did you get tix here?' (They had all come down from Sydney.) It was quite an unpleasant experience!

 

[Off The Couch]

LRT holding the ball non-decision was appalling and at a crucial time.

So was Mitchell's 50 - plain dumb
So was young's failure to kill the ball
So was gunston, Franklin, bruest, Sheils, hales etc. shot on goals

LRT and his incorrect disposal was the least of their probłems

 

[1989]

So was Mitchell's 50 - plain dumb
So was young's failure to kill the ball
So was gunston, Franklin, bruest, Sheils, hales etc. shot on goals

LRT and his incorrect disposal was the least of their probłems

I wouldn't underplay the importance of that decision, as it resulted in one of the goals that got the Swans going in the 2nd quarter, and I was merely pointing out that 100,000 people at the ground could see it was a free kick.

 

[Off The Couch]

I wouldn't underplay the importance of that decision, as it resulted in one of the goals that got the Swans going in the 2nd quarter, and I was merely pointing out that 100,000 people at the ground could see it was a free kick.

I'm not denying it wasn't a free but what then was the reason for the rest of those goals from the swans in that quarter and the inability for the hawks to kick any - if that one incorrect decision was what swung the game then I would have to say we have far bigger problems than we can possibly imagine. As clarko said you could analyse the game and find a 100 different reasons why the game was lost not just one individual moment

 

[1989]

I'm not denying it wasn't a free but what then was the reason for the rest of those goals from the swans in that quarter and the inability for the hawks to kick any - if that one incorrect decision was what swung the game then I would have to say we have far bigger problems than we can possibly imagine. As clarko said you could analyse the game and find a 100 different reasons why the game was lost not just one individual moment

Didn't say it cost us victory, just one of the many things that sticks in your mind following the loss. It was a shocker. Kicking for goal was the main issue. Been an issue for years and we paid the ultimate price. So similar to the Adelaide game - they took their chances and we didn't.

 

[Dixie Flatline]

Hodge's decision to take on the Swans deep in his own defence early in the second quarter which helped spark the Swans six goal to none was mindbogglingly poor. He had an option to handpass to a teammate, chose against it and ran into a wall of Swans. Just poor decision-making from a player who should have known better.

This will haunt me for a long time too.

 

[Off The Couch]

Hodge's decision to take on the Swans deep in his own defence early in the second quarter which helped spark the Swans six goal to none was mindbogglingly poor. He had an option to handpass to a teammate, chose against it and ran into a wall of Swans. Just poor decision-making from a player who should have known better.

This will haunt me for a long time too.

It was max rooke in 2008 all over again

 

[tazhawk]

Shattered gutted and cannot be ****ed analysing anything about the game.

I am sure all the boys are hurting as much as we all are.

I am as low as a snakes belly.

 

[Pessimistic]

One story in the Hun says that Longmire asked Stuart Dew to fix the midfield rot after 1/4 time. Story says Dew made some changes and the tide reversed

 

[Changa10]

Well, it's been a couple of days now and really I still don't want to think about it.

Firstly, congratulations to the Swans, their tackling, pressure and will to win is what got them the chocolates on Saturday. Also, that converted their chances while we just continued to blunder ours. Kudos to you Swans.

I haven't seen a replay yet, I'll watch it at some stage though. My thoughts from watching it live was we just didn't get enough from our top 10 players/leaders. I've read on here that our bottom 6 were the difference, but I disagree and think our leaders let us down. Hodge, Mitchell, Gibson, Lewis, Rioli, Roughead, Birchall etc all played well below what they would have like I'm sure.

Sewell, was clearly our, and perhaps even the best player out there. His determination all day could not be questioned.

Buddy, got us back into it in the third, but then blew it with that shank in the last quarter. Huge turning point of the game right there.

Schoey, great game. Stood tall, and I can only remember him losing one contest all day.

Hale tried hard and competed really well all day in the ruck. Pity he didn't hurt Hanners a bit more in that first quarter!

Bruest/Burgers/Young I thought were all reasonably good too, albeit somewhat more patchy than the above 4.

Overall a very disappointing roller coaster day that unfortunately for us ended up on a low.

 

[Hollins]

No excuses at all. We knew they'd apply huge pressure around the ball for all 4 quarters and that got the better of us. We went to pieces in Q2 and they remained composed. That's where the game was won.
Syd was the best side in the finals and played better than us on the biggest day. Hate the result but they deserved it.

 

[MinerBoy]

I wouldn't underplay the importance of that decision, as it resulted in one of the goals that got the Swans going in the 2nd quarter, and I was merely pointing out that 100,000 people at the ground could see it was a free kick.

Momentum changer, as was the Mitch 50, which was awful.

Thought it was one of the best umpired games of the season, with just the odd howler having massive impact.

 

[Paul007]

Has anyone seen this thread? Started by 'David The Cat' they can't post here without getting a red card so they are just copying and pasting from here into their own forum. Sad and bitter, glad to see they are still hurting after all these years, I have two year old's and at least they get over their tantrums pretty quickly.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/your-favourite-hawk-board-posts.975424/

 

[Hawks1994]

Obviously, more behinds than goals always hurts your chances, and our field kicking wasn't terrific either...

But other than thatit was a very close match, and I am over ridiculing everything, and I would like to say that I am extremely proud of the club for making the big one and getting so close...

Just one more thing..... Does anyone remember a sort of slide tackle by one of the sydney players.... What was going on there??

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

That's his job, and he did it well! And I must say, with a free kick count 22 to 9 (one journo had it at 27/10) in your favour, and most observers of the game believing the umpires tried their hardest to get the Hawks back in it in the last quarter, I can't believe the sooking about the umpiring I'm reading here! Call me a troll, but you guys need a reality check on what it takes to win a GF...... wait a minute, you can buy the DVD of this years game.....and learn!

Another one bites the dust

 

[MinerBoy]

I hadn't heard any ump whining, although I certainly haven't read right through this thread.

However, despite the free kick count they were actually good and did Hawks no more favours than the Swans. I thought they were good, even though the 2 biggest momentum changers of the day actually went against Hawthorn. Certainly any sugeestion they tried to get us over the line is about as fanciful as any hawk fan who blames the ump.

 

[chaddles]

I think there are only 2 decisions that were questionable - the 50m against Mitchell and the Jetta push in the back that should of been down field.

We cost ourselves the game with an extended period of not kicking a goal and poor finishing. Umpires just did there job.

 

[Rushed_Behind]

There is only one decision that cost/hurt us and that was not paying downfield FK when Suckers bombed it 60m into our forward line in the 3rd. That was a joke, every other call/non decision i dont give a **** about.

 

[grizzlym]

There is only one decision that cost/hurt us and that was not paying downfield FK when Suckers bombed it 60m into our forward line in the 3rd. That was a joke, every other call/non decision i dont give a **** about.

I believe that Miner Boy is also referring to the incorrect disposal not paid against LRT when he was tackled. The ball spilled free and the Swans kicked a goal. It was a bad umpiring blunder.

 

[Rushed_Behind]

I believe that Miner Boy is also referring to the incorrect disposal not paid against LRT when he was tackled. The ball spilled free and the Swans kicked a goal. It was a bad umpiring blunder.

That was in the 2nd? that was pretty bad but the consistency is what shits me. They pay one to them downfield and the same thing happens to us and they call it back. The way we were kicking we probably would have missed but it was in the middle of our run in the 3rd.

 

[J_GUNstall19]

There is only one decision that cost/hurt us and that was not paying downfield FK when Suckers bombed it 60m into our forward line in the 3rd. That was a joke, every other call/non decision i dont give a **** about.

Such a bad decision, compare it to the 08 call when Johnson got a free kick after Mitchell coat hanged Ablett and Ling booted it inside 50 after the whistle had been blown.

 

[Rushed_Behind]

Such a bad decision, compare it to the 08 call when Johnson got a free kick after Mitchell coat hanged Ablett and Ling booted it inside 50 after the whistle had been blown.

B.I.N.G.O and Bingo was his name oh