Toast The media....*Nods Head*

[Byrons Firen]

Do like a good schnitty.

Me too... my wife does an amazing schnitty, turkey fillet and her own KFC recipe with her signature chips or mashed potatoes

 

[Rasha]

Take out the bullshit SMA AO Membership split and the Membership figures are within spitting difference.

Given that Adelaide have over twice as many supporters as Port Adelaide in South Australia, it's amazing how the gap between the two club's memberships is the size it is.

Even that will change over time. Many of those are still 'left-overs' from pre-AFL days who 'adopted' the Crows, quickly jettisoning Norwood or Sturt, as the way to butter up clients.

It's all in our hands now. We've had two prior chances to become the number one side. 2005 after our flag, where we fell in a heap and lost the 'Showdown final' and 2015, where we were lauded across the country as playing the best football to watch AND the best match day experience, then we did 2015-2019. Both times we blew golden chances to become no. 1.

Now Adelaide are still dealing with the fallout from their camp, a wooden spoon and now the Walker debacle. If we get a flag now, with all their off-field problems and on-field years of pain ahead, we'll become the 'safe choice' for sponsors and those that don't know anything about football. That doesn't mean anything to those of us who are real supporters, but that's a sh*t load difference in how much money the club would get in. We'd actually have a chance to pay down our debt, get out from under the AFL's thumb and push back on things we do care about (like the PB's) without worrying about the AFL holding their money over our head as a not so subtle threat, if we don't kiss their feet on every issue.

The Power have gone past the Crows as the number 1 club in South Australia, both on field and off field.

The Crows have had 4 years out of the finals yet the media and fans are content because they're in a rebuild and are developing.

The Power have 4 years out of the finals and no one says they're in a rebuild, because the media and fans expect results.
Look at last year for example, fans wanted Ken sacked after finishing top of the ladder.
Look at 2011 too, 4 years out of the finals and fans wanted to burn the club down.

 

[PowerBaz]

Me too... my wife does an amazing schnitty, turkey fillet and her own KFC recipe with her signature chips or mashed potatoes

Turkey makes a good Schnitt

 

[Established1870]

If Port and the Crows were member owned clubs, I'd see both of us being 70,000+ in memberships each year unless we spent a prolonged spell at the bottom of the ladder.

 

[Portmagpies36]

Given that Adelaide have over twice as many supporters as Port Adelaide in South Australia, it's amazing how the gap between the two club's memberships is the size it is.



The Power have gone past the Crows as the number 1 club in South Australia, both on field and off field.

The Crows have had 4 years out of the finals yet the media and fans are content because they're in a rebuild and are developing.

The Power have 4 years out of the finals and no one says they're in a rebuild, because the media and fans expect results.
Look at last year for example, fans wanted Ken sacked after finishing top of the ladder.
Look at 2011 too, 4 years out of the finals and fans wanted to burn the club down.

That's because we are a real club with real supporters. Must thank Richmond for 2017 because the franchise has been ****ed ever since.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Turkey makes a good Schnitt

Turkey is the most underrated meat going around. So good.

 

[GremioPower]

The Corporate and Top end of town is where we trail them massively. I sometimes go these "business lunches" where 80% of the room are Old school tiers. These are the people that are running the state. It is just accepted that the Crows are the team. It's just a given.

Belo Horizonte was similar. Cruzeiro came later to the party. The top-end of the town was dominated by Atlético and América. Cruzeiro was already big, and América had gotten smaller, when it was accepted as one of Minas Gerais greats.

Today, it’s the most popular club in the state. Atlético remains strong in MG’s main metropolitan area, but Cruzeiro rules the country.

Port has always been one of, if not the mist popular club in Adelaide. However, it has never been known as a top-end club.

The Crows inherited the popular support from some SANFL clubs and the top-end support of others. Port had only its own; which were split with the identity issues.

The first generation of AFL supporters in SA would be uneven. Still, with time, the tendency is pointing towards Adelaide becoming a 50-50 town. The second 30-year period will be key.

 

[philreich]

Kane is already getting the desires result on the Crows board.

The 2021 comparison to WCE/Freo is interesting

WCE have double the members of Freo

100k to 50k

Adelaide to Port

56k to 50k (and closing)

Also average home attendances (admittedly capacity affected but it was trending the same way prior to that anyway)

WCE 42k v Freo 30k

Adelaide 26k v Port 32k (4th in the league)

You forgot the important one - wooden spoons: Adelaide 1, Port 0.

 

[Andre]

Belo Horizonte was similar. Cruzeiro came later to the party. The top-end of the town was dominated by Atlético and América. Cruzeiro was already big, and América had gotten smaller, when it was accepted as one of Minas Gerais greats.

Today, it’s the most popular club in the state. Atlético remains strong in MG’s main metropolitan area, but Cruzeiro rules the country.

Port has always been one of, if not the mist popular club in Adelaide. However, it has never been known as a top-end club.

The Crows inherited the popular support from some SANFL clubs and the top-end support of others. Port had only its own; which were split with the identity issues.

The first generation of AFL supporters in SA would be uneven. Still, with time, the tendency is pointing towards Adelaide becoming a 50-50 town. The second 30-year period will be key.

Port were slowly catching up in support as Crows supporters died off. Their club identity has always been aimed at the older market, rather than younger supporters. Port made a clear choice to target younger supporters with things like Planet Teal and it was paying off. The Crows getting an AFLW team screwed our clear dominance of new young fans for a few years, but now that's corrected I expect we'll pick up there again.

I mean you look at Adelaide games. If you're under 50 it's like going to visit your Nana in a nursing home. Port has a much more even spread across age demographics. Something like NTUA would never work at an Adelaide game.

 

[Papa G]

Port were slowly catching up in support as Crows supporters died off. Their club identity has always been aimed at the older market, rather than younger supporters. Port made a clear choice to target younger supporters with things like Planet Teal and it was paying off. The Crows getting an AFLW team screwed our clear dominance of new young fans for a few years, but now that's corrected I expect we'll pick up there again.

I mean you look at Adelaide games. If you're under 50 it's like going to visit your Nana in a nursing home. Port has a much more even spread across age demographics. Something like NTUA would never work at an Adelaide game.

Whilst AFLW is a diabolical, its one of the few good strategic things the Crows have done since employing Malcolm Blight.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Something like NTUA would never work at an Adelaide game.

 

[GremioPower]

Whilst AFLW is a diabolical, its one of the few good strategic things the Crows have done since employing Malcolm Blight.

They not only did it, but did it well.

 

[chiwigi]

They not only did it, but did it well.

They lucked out with Erin and being given the NT.

 

[Pear1870]

By the way, if you are ever looking for a good schnitzel, Jarmers at Brompton does the best schnitzel I've ever eaten.

I nearly always get a schnitty wherever I go.
I agree. Jarmers do THE best.

.

 

[Winestoppable]

I nearly always get a schnitty wherever I go.
I agree. Jarmers do THE best.

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Gee wizz how many of you said yes on Perfect Pear?

Sent from my SM-G986B using Tapatalk

 

[GremioPower]

They lucked out with Erin and being given the NT.

I’m not sure whether it was luck. It’s hard to imagine it, but the Crows could have set a good plan and executed it well.

It would depend on who had the initiative to, first, embrace NT (vital for establishing a team to begin with) and, then, to hire Erin. For instance, if the idea for a NT-WL partnership came from the AFL House, the Crows were lucky.

 

[robbo1981]

Makes you sick really they wouldn't exist without us wouldn't of won back 2 back flags without McLeod and the aflw ones without Erin

 

[PowerBaz]

Turkey is the most underrated meat going around. So good.

Goody Butcher do a Yakatori Pork Roll…. That too is amazing.

 

[robbo1981]

My m8s Oldman makes squid snittys not bad

 

[Steve Dore]

... Yakatori Pork Roll….

Maybe a yakitori butamaki but that's an odd mix.

 

[Byrons Firen]

Goody Butcher do a Yakatori Pork Roll…. That too is amazing.

My booze outlet the Goodwood cellars is virtually next door great little shop, people and prices.

As for the Goody Butcher, a bit pricey but everything they sell is top notch.

 

[Rasha]

Port were slowly catching up in support as Crows supporters died off. Their club identity has always been aimed at the older market, rather than younger supporters. Port made a clear choice to target younger supporters with things like Planet Teal and it was paying off. The Crows getting an AFLW team screwed our clear dominance of new young fans for a few years, but now that's corrected I expect we'll pick up there again.

I mean you look at Adelaide games. If you're under 50 it's like going to visit your Nana in a nursing home. Port has a much more even spread across age demographics. Something like NTUA would never work at an Adelaide game.

The fish rots from the head at West Lakes and the board know their rusted on fan base of over 50s will buy memberships and turn up to games, regardless of how well the club is performing on the field.

The clean out at West Lakes, which included getting Matthew Pavlich into the club, consisted of reviewing and cleaning out all areas of the club except for the board. Almost as much of a joke as Carlton's reviews.

Which leads me to point out Adelaide and Carlton are both similar, in that the fish rots from the head given their boards are stuck living in a bygone era. They can sack as many coaches as they want and blame everyone else from the CEO to the boot studder for their problems, but until the power brokers behind the scenes are gone, the Crows and the Blues will continue to spin their wheels.

Coincidentally, Steven Trigg worked at both clubs and both Crows and Blues supporters blamed Trigg for their club's problems.

 

[70sDinosaur]

Coincidentally, Steven Trigg worked at both clubs and both Crows and Blues supporters blamed Trigg for their club's problems.

Steven Trigg's contribution to football management is on a par with John Bolton's contribution to US foreign policy.

 

[Rasha]

Steven Trigg's contribution to football management is on a par with John Bolton's contribution to US foreign policy.

It's no coincidence the Power have finished top 4 as many times in the last 2 years as what the Crows have in the last 15 years.

Media and supporters say it's Don Pyke's fault the club imploded after 2017, and the Crows supposedly had a great side that should have had a period of success, however it's clear that 2017 was an out of the box year for the Crows where the planets aligned, just like 2012.

Not only that, but the fact is Don Pyke told the club home truths that the board didn't like hearing. It's similar to how Pagan and Malthouse told the Carlton football club home truths that the board didn't like hearing.
It's no surprise that it led to the coach losing the players given the fact that the board and the coach weren't on the same page.

People criticise Ken but the reality is at the Power, board and coach are on the same page. Ken came to the club and delivered home truths and it's no surprise the players love Ken and try their absolute guts out for him. Ken's only flaw has been his tactical ability, much like Hardwick in fact.

Lets say Ken coached the Crows or the Blues instead of the Power in an alternative timeline, would the board and coach have been on the same page? Not a chance. The board wouldn't have liked what Ken would have to say hence the board and coach not being on the same page, leading to the players and coach ending up on different pages and Ken getting scapegoated and sacked.

 

[GremioPower]

Ken came to the club and delivered home truths…

The board wouldn't have liked what Ken would have to say…

What would those “truths” be?