Roast The Non Goal: F*** the AFL, court injunction?

[arrowman]

This is part of the reason I would like us to have taken it to court.

You would have all the umpires up on the stand providing information under oath and could figure out what each of them saw and what they were thinking.

If it got that far; just as likely a court would throw it out before it got to that stage. And the club is under no obligation to spend $$$ on a court case with basically zero chance of success, just to get info out in the public domain.

But all is not lost...

The AFL has gone to ground and refused to provide any details as to why this happened. They are now providing solutions by pulling them out of the ass with no reasoning as to why this will help.

I'll give them a little slack because it's early in the piece, and maybe a bit of questioning from the clubs / media / public will draw out more detail.

Also, you'd have to assume the clubs - especially ours - will be demanding / getting detail and clarity, as they should on any umpiring / scoring / rules issue, so even if the AFL isn't 100% transparent and answering questions that inquiring minds want answers to, maybe the club(s) will.

 

[El Doederino]

Alot of fluff, just about last weeks game and whether he is looking to stay at Adelaide or not, club and himself have not agreed to terms just yet but he says he wants to be a crow for life, but they all say that so who knows.

Nothing worse than a footy player interview

All hot air, nothingness and lies

Whats the point. Turn off.

 

[PeterSalt]

I'm not sure why anybody would be surprised the umpire got thrown under the bus.

The AFL may say all the right things about 'his well' being publicly now. Privately I doubt they give a rat arse.

Pretty much anyone in corporate Australia (world probably) publicly embarrassing the executive of the company they work for is going to get shafted. Particularly as this was shaping as 1 of the most interesting final rounds to the H&A season in memory (maybe ever).

And add to that that Gill is in the process of handing over the reins. He doesn't want this to tarnish his legacy.

 

[SugarShane]

I'm not sure why anybody would be surprised the umpire got thrown under the bus.

The AFL may say all the right things about 'his well' being publicly now. Privately I doubt they give a rat arse.

Pretty much anyone in corporate Australia (world probably) publicly embarrassing the executive of the company they work for is going to get shafted. Particularly as this was shaping as 1 of the most interesting final rounds to the H&A season in memory (maybe ever).

And add to that that Gill is in the process of handing over the reins. He doesn't want this to tarnish his legacy.

I'm not sure why anybody is even suggesting the umpire got thrown under the bus personally.

The umpire walked out into the street, walked into the bus lane, and laid down and made himself comfortable.

Did the Republicans throw Trump under the bus? Did Hollywood throw Kanye West under the bus? Not much throwing is needed when you're the sole reason for the **** up.

I agree though, the AFL doesn't care. The extent they care is how much of an inconvenience he's caused them, not about his wellbeing.

 

[arrowman]

Nothing worse than a footy player interview

All hot air, nothingness and lies

Whats the point. Turn off.

 

[PeterSalt]

I'm not sure why anybody is even suggesting the umpire got thrown under the bus personally.

The umpire walked out into the street, walked into the bus lane, and laid down and made himself comfortable.

Did the Republicans throw Trump under the bus? Did Hollywood throw Kanye West under the bus? Not much throwing is needed when you're the sole reason for the * up.

I agree though, the AFL doesn't care. The extent they care is how much of an inconvenience he's caused them, not about his wellbeing.

Well yeah, they kind of did. Metaphorically anyway.

Gill in his Sunday press statement clearly stated it was human error. The umpire.

The AFL as far as I know have taken no responsibility for the failure of their own systems/processes or the poor technology they use.

I also believe that the umpires would be under considerable pressure (implied) to not cause delays to the flow of games.

I mentioned it before, it's a classic case of the Swiss cheese model.

 

[Samcro24]

Good question. As I implied in my original post, I strongly suspect that the umpires had been instructed not to intervene in goal/boundary decisions. Clearly, they would have had some sort of imprimatur given that they control the game.

The clincher for me is the Geelong game where Cameron received the handball 2m out of bounds and kicked the goal. He was in the perfect view of at least one boundary ump and three field umps, so there was absolutely no doubt involved. Yet, noone did anything.
Either none of them knew the rules of the game, or they were obeying instructions not to interfere. I think the latter, going by today's announcement. The head ump should have had a discussion with the boundary ump on that occasion.

I don’t think so.

I saw a reel with Razor Ray talking about it.

He said if it was his game he’d probably stop to ask the goal umpire based on Keays reaction, and given that so much was riding on the outcome.

 

[Slippery Pete]

I don’t think so.

I saw a reel with Razor Ray talking about it.

He said if it was his game he’d probably stop to ask the goal umpire based on Keays reaction, and given that so much was riding on the outcome.

A reel? What are we teenage girls now?

 

[Samcro24]

A reel? What are we teenage girls now?

I dunno what to tell you. I start scrolling on Facebook or Instagram and without fail end up watching reels.

No wonder my attention span is

 

[Crow till I die]

A reel? What are we teenage girls now?

Apparently people can identify with whatever they want now. Me..I am identifying as the head of the AFL and I am ordering a replay of Saturday nights game

 

[CrowToon]

I'm not sure why anybody is even suggesting the umpire got thrown under the bus personally.

The umpire walked out into the street, walked into the bus lane, and laid down and made himself comfortable.

Did the Republicans throw Trump under the bus? Did Hollywood throw Kanye West under the bus? Not much throwing is needed when you're the sole reason for the * up.

I agree though, the AFL doesn't care. The extent they care is how much of an inconvenience he's caused them, not about his wellbeing.

I'm not sure why anyone can't see he got thrown under the bus

 

[CrowToon]

We lose regardless of what happens this week.

1) We win and we go higher and lose out by getting a shitter pick

2) We lose and all of a sudden the narrative changes to 'see the Sydney stuff up doesn't change anything'

3) We make some form of statement and the Vicmedia turn on us even more and tell us to move on and we are acting petulantly.

4) we do nothing and members, myself included, think we are weak as piss.

 

[SugarShane]

I don’t think so.

I saw a reel with Razor Ray talking about it.

He said if it was his game he’d probably stop to ask the goal umpire based on Keays reaction, and given that so much was riding on the outcome.

I have little doubt that if Ray was in charge he'd have stepped in, if only for a solid bit of camera time at a big moment.

 

[cleanhands]

I have little doubt that if Ray was in charge he'd have stepped in, if only for a solid bit of camera time at a big moment.

I actually like Razor give all the shit he cops

 

[MsTopG]

What happens next year when Daniel Hoskin umpires our games.


Are we allowed to boo him?

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I think you can boo in the sanfl.

 

[mick500]

Haven't been able to watch any footy shows this week. Tried a couple of times and turn off after 2 minutes. It should have been a great week leading into the finals. Not just for us but the other clubs that got shafted as well.

Did the ladder predictor though and swapping the Sydney result around I think we could've finished 7th and got the saints 1st final which would have been very winnable, into port at home in an elimination final assuming they lose to Brisbane in Brisbane week 1. Port fans would be cheering they don't have to play us in Adelaide week 2.

 

[MsTopG]

Haven't been able to watch any footy shows this week. Tried a couple of times and turn off after 2 minutes. It should have been a great week leading into the finals. Not just for us but the other clubs that got shafted as well.

Did the ladder predictor though and swapping the Sydney result around I think we could've finished 7th and got the saints 1st final which would have been very winnable, into port at home in an elimination final assuming they lose to Brisbane in Brisbane week 1. Port fans would be cheering they don't have to play us in Adelaide week 2.

Powaa will probably get beaten week 2 by Carlton.

 

[CrowToon]

I have little doubt that if Ray was in charge he'd have stepped in, if only for a solid bit of camera time at a big moment.

More likely he would've just talked down to one of our players like they were a child. Not sure he'd be leading the charge for us even for a bit of camera time.

 

[cleanhands]

I think you can boo in the sanfl.

Know that for a fact

 

[Sanders]

Demonstrating your complete lack of understanding again, Sanders. The people liking your comments are the usual suspects as well. Care to weigh in, with completely unearned confidence, on another topic you have no clue about? I have seen you pretend to understand legal issues a few times and be hilariously wrong.

Except you haven’t! You lack the personal competence to make that determination. As you so wonderfully continue to prove

 

[jenny61_99]

I actually like Razor give all the s**t he cops

This is only because he is no longer the shittest umpire.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

This is only because he is no longer the shittest umpire.

He was never a shit umpire in terms of bias like plenty of others.

He's just a look at me umpire, but usually been fair to both sides.

 

[Checksider]

Richmond were a laughing stock for 37 years and came good. Our club has copped some s**t luck and some s**t bias from the AFL, but our time will come.

On each occasion that I’ve seen our time come, I’ve seen the AFL stomp us down as quickly as possible.

It’s hard to win in a league that actively prevents you from doing so. A significant part of me has given up on ever seeing another Crows flag, and I’m 36.

 

[arrowman]

Stolen from the Port board- poster did not attribute (because Port, I guess) but it looks like a quote from a media report; some interesting info:

Goal umpires will be urged to refer every borderline call and be guided by a senior ARC official across the finals series as the league attempts to eradicate blunders in September. For the finals the league will install its best ARC officials who might otherwise only be used for one or two games each weekend. A senior ARC official will have extra communication with the goal umpire through their headset. That official will ensure an extra set of eyes and will urge the goal umpire to hold up play before he or she signals a goal or behind if the ARC believes a decision should be reviewed. Previously only the field umpire could hold up play to suggest a goal umpire refer a decision — not a member of the ARC. It will be the only role of that senior ARC official as the league ensures goal umpires are given as much information as possible.

 

[cleanhands]

This is only because he is no longer the shittest umpire.

Nah never was