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Roast The Non Goal: F*** the AFL, court injunction?
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What cracks me up is the dogshit double standards.
Do a couple of lines of coke and you are bringing the game into disrepute.
Completely change the season/finals. Oops we done goofed. Move along.
Don’t get me started on the potential to cause injury.
Do a couple of lines of coke and you are bringing the game into disrepute.
Completely change the season/finals. Oops we done goofed. Move along.
Don’t get me started on the potential to cause injury.
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I think the best thing to happen now is for Sydney to go on and win the GF. It will always have an asterisk beside it for 2023, and it might just be too humiliating for the AFL to not make radical changes to ensure the integrity of the competition. It would bloody hurt for us - but would expose the utter farce of AFL house’s negligence / incompetence. Gil’s press conference will haunt him forever!!!!!!
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Do they have a match referee for AFL games like in test cricket?
Cricket also has a proper third umpire doing the DRS (not just the work experience kid) as well as a 4th umpire sitting in the dugout.
As Tex said on the news, get rid of one of the umpires from the field of play and get them to monitor the match for howler decisions or any other shenanigans going on.
Cricket also has a proper third umpire doing the DRS (not just the work experience kid) as well as a 4th umpire sitting in the dugout.
As Tex said on the news, get rid of one of the umpires from the field of play and get them to monitor the match for howler decisions or any other shenanigans going on.
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This clownshow of a billion dollar sporting league needs to just get in the bin.
I've seen plenty of incompetence from multi-billion dollar companies, but the AFL have a unique flavour to their shitness.
I've seen plenty of incompetence from multi-billion dollar companies, but the AFL have a unique flavour to their shitness.
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Everything you say is right...but the one thing it would do if it was real is give an opportunity we now don't have...
However if results went the other way this coming weekend it would be meaningless other than to correct record books
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Apparently the NBA did this, Shaq got incorrectly fouled out and the next time the two teams played, they played the remaining time before the game, only problem was shaq had been traded by then so he didn’t even play in the part replay
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That flavour is called Vicbias
It's carefully nurtured by a group called Vicmedia
Both are absofugginglutely nauseating
There's also the important but easy to forget point that it would be ****ing stupid. Imagine both clubs, umpires, TV crew etc. turning up for a 71 second game. The likely outcome would be no score, Adelaide win, but regardless of the result it would be dumb.
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Especially if we turned up like we did in the first quarter.
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The stiffness of the rulebook is what also needs a thorough looking over. It's all well and good to have an ump in the box but if that's the case we need to get rid of the "once play resumes, bad luck" clause, and replace with something like that ice hockey allowance of bringing the play back after it has continued. If you're doing this too it pretty much has to be black and white, scores only. If he's sitting there looking at every umpiring decision we'd have been there until Monday morning.
They had better do a very deep dive on this over summer.
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What about every interchange we do this weekend just coke in where ever, I mean close enough is good enough right?
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I wish we'd thought of the human error defence when the Tippett saga was unfolding
They need to spend the money and get far better goal line technology. And they need to get technology that helps to speed up the review process.
I read somewhere that it takes around 21 seconds currently to review a score. So within the timeframe it takes to take the ball back to the middle and let the media run their 30 second ads before a restart.
Not sure if that's the average, or just the time it usually takes them to review currently after every goal is scored.
Suspect the reluctance to spend the money relates to the occasional games played in Alice Springs, Ballarat, Cairns, Darwin, Hobart, Launceston and Manuka
Having games played at seperate home grounds in Brisbane, Gold Coast and in Sydney probably doesn't help either.
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And most importantly, they need the bozos in the goals to actually use them.
That too
I just wish McLachlan would be up front about those genuine issues, and the AFL works on ways to address them, instead of just saying "we don't need to spend more money". Because he'd be the only person in Australia who thinks that.
I kind of got the impression he wasn't that interested in making much change to the existing system based on his comments on Sunday. That may have changed now?
Whether or not Dillon has the same attitude when he takes over in a few weeks will be interesting to see.
Even more.reason to piss these regional games off.
The AFL has made a rod for its back with these.
And a lot these games (NT, Cairns and Tassie) have been helping prop up financially struggling clubs.
Coverage on 360 tonight
Starts with a rather nauseating, dramatic summary of the whole situation rife with footage of our devastated players after the siren, if you’re still a bit emotionally fragile beware, I had some trouble stomaching it
Also dumbfounded to learn that Nicks was on 360 last week, was asked about the overturned Petracca goal and said he hopes something like that never happens to us, how cursed is this club??? Every time we say or hype up something in the media it never ends well
There's footage where you can see the goal post actually wobbles exactly as the ball lines up with it because Mills uses it to stabilise himself and smacks it while running in, that’s what that umpire went off no doubt. More dodginess from Swans players around goal posts. Sickening how avoidable all of this was really
I agree with you. I would also suggest that Mill's action was not noticed by any umpire. It is a clear transgression of the rules. So clearly after a day the MRO cites Mills for that action . Which may end up as a fine, I do not know. However no action taken at all.
OK, I've done some back of the envelope calculations.
You'd need at least 6 cameras per ground - 3 at each end, different angles.
You'd need to cover at least 6 grounds at a time - WA, SA, NSW, Qld, Melb x2 - at a minimum, but let's go with that.
That's at least 36 cameras needed.
Google tells me that high def cameras can cost from as little as $5K up to $50-60K. It's not clear whether those have a high enough frame rate to go with the high def image, and also they mostly seem to be shoulder mounted and perhaps not suitable / with enough reach for a football game.
So let's say $150K per camera. That's $5,400,000 total. At a minimum; double that and it's $10.8 mill.
That's a lot of dollarydoos, but it's also a drop in the bucket for an organisation like the AFL.
What price accuracy in the score review system? Can you really justify having a score review system where the reviewers have to work with images that aren't much better than the shots from the Moon in 1969?
Edit: This article:
www.diyphotography.net
explains that although TV broadcast cameras can cost c. $250K, 90% of that is in the lens ($212K).
So assuming the lens would be the same, the whole camera setup might be more than $250K, but the marginal cost over existing cameras...
You'd need at least 6 cameras per ground - 3 at each end, different angles.
You'd need to cover at least 6 grounds at a time - WA, SA, NSW, Qld, Melb x2 - at a minimum, but let's go with that.
That's at least 36 cameras needed.
Google tells me that high def cameras can cost from as little as $5K up to $50-60K. It's not clear whether those have a high enough frame rate to go with the high def image, and also they mostly seem to be shoulder mounted and perhaps not suitable / with enough reach for a football game.
So let's say $150K per camera. That's $5,400,000 total. At a minimum; double that and it's $10.8 mill.
That's a lot of dollarydoos, but it's also a drop in the bucket for an organisation like the AFL.
What price accuracy in the score review system? Can you really justify having a score review system where the reviewers have to work with images that aren't much better than the shots from the Moon in 1969?
Edit: This article:
This is why TV cameras are still huge and ridiculously expensive
This is why TV cameras are still huge and ridiculously expensive
www.diyphotography.net
So assuming the lens would be the same, the whole camera setup might be more than $250K, but the marginal cost over existing cameras...
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It isn't a perfect scenario, but at least it gives us a chance to take the 4 points. It is as fair a result as we could get.
I don't know if anyone is interested, but currently struck down with the flu and off work so spent the morning looking over the allocation of "regional games" from 2017 to now to see just how much the AFL has scr*wed us over the years...
Now you can make all kind of arguments that we were a bottom four side etc. in 2020-22, and that there was COVID so regional grounds were used more than usual in this period, but of the (what I count to be..and probably missed one because I am not well) 92 "regional" games played - which I have labelled as games played in Hobart, Launceston, Darwin, Alice Springs, Cairns, Canberra and Ballarat - we account for approximately 15% of the total games played by the "away" teams (14 out of 92 games in total). The next team isn't even close - Brisbane on approx. 11% (10 out of 92), followed by Port 10% (9/92), Bulldogs (surprisingly) 10% (9/92) and Gold Coast 9% (8/92). Given we account for 5.5% of the league, this situation is ridiculous..
Just for sh*ts and giggles - had a look at the so-called "Big 4"...even accounting for the reallocation from Victoria for Covid games in 2020 and 2021 (including 2 finals in Launceston in 2021) combined they account for just 6.5% of total games - 6 GAMES IN TOTAL, spread as follows: Collingwood - 0, Carlton - 3, Essendon 2 (including 1 final) and Richmond 1.
Drilling into it a bit more, in places like Ballarat and Darwin we account for a staggering 33.3% of all games played (7/21 games). Indeed, in every single regional ground we are over represented: Hobart - 12.5% (2/16), Launceston - 7.4% (2/27), Alice Springs - 16.7% (1/6), Canberra - 7.4% (1/14) and Cairns - 12.5% (1/8).
Compare this to say West Coast (who have been awful the last 2-3 years), Fremantle (who have made the finals once in that period) or Sydney (who I acknowledge have been good, but are a non Melbourne team with significantly less support than us). In that period they have played the following:
West Coast - 3 games (1 in each of Alice Springs, Hobart and Launceston)
Fremantle - 5 games (2 in Launceston, 1 Canberra, Cairns, Darwin)
Sydney - 3 games (1 in Hobart, 2 in Launceston (including a final in 2021))
Anyway, preaching to the converted here, and we know there is absolutely no integrity in this stupid fixture, but if at the very least we dont have to be the ones doing the heavy lifting and helping to prop up the financially weak clubs, and can get away from playing at these good awful regional venues, and back to playing 6-8 games in Melbourne per year, something good has happened out of this total cluster f@ck of an umpiring error / AFL nothing to see here mentality...
Now you can make all kind of arguments that we were a bottom four side etc. in 2020-22, and that there was COVID so regional grounds were used more than usual in this period, but of the (what I count to be..and probably missed one because I am not well) 92 "regional" games played - which I have labelled as games played in Hobart, Launceston, Darwin, Alice Springs, Cairns, Canberra and Ballarat - we account for approximately 15% of the total games played by the "away" teams (14 out of 92 games in total). The next team isn't even close - Brisbane on approx. 11% (10 out of 92), followed by Port 10% (9/92), Bulldogs (surprisingly) 10% (9/92) and Gold Coast 9% (8/92). Given we account for 5.5% of the league, this situation is ridiculous..
Just for sh*ts and giggles - had a look at the so-called "Big 4"...even accounting for the reallocation from Victoria for Covid games in 2020 and 2021 (including 2 finals in Launceston in 2021) combined they account for just 6.5% of total games - 6 GAMES IN TOTAL, spread as follows: Collingwood - 0, Carlton - 3, Essendon 2 (including 1 final) and Richmond 1.
Drilling into it a bit more, in places like Ballarat and Darwin we account for a staggering 33.3% of all games played (7/21 games). Indeed, in every single regional ground we are over represented: Hobart - 12.5% (2/16), Launceston - 7.4% (2/27), Alice Springs - 16.7% (1/6), Canberra - 7.4% (1/14) and Cairns - 12.5% (1/8).
Compare this to say West Coast (who have been awful the last 2-3 years), Fremantle (who have made the finals once in that period) or Sydney (who I acknowledge have been good, but are a non Melbourne team with significantly less support than us). In that period they have played the following:
West Coast - 3 games (1 in each of Alice Springs, Hobart and Launceston)
Fremantle - 5 games (2 in Launceston, 1 Canberra, Cairns, Darwin)
Sydney - 3 games (1 in Hobart, 2 in Launceston (including a final in 2021))
Anyway, preaching to the converted here, and we know there is absolutely no integrity in this stupid fixture, but if at the very least we dont have to be the ones doing the heavy lifting and helping to prop up the financially weak clubs, and can get away from playing at these good awful regional venues, and back to playing 6-8 games in Melbourne per year, something good has happened out of this total cluster f@ck of an umpiring error / AFL nothing to see here mentality...
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