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Cam is not negative value but he is worth more to GWS of their books. 7 and 15 and Cam for pick 3 and a future 2nd rounder should be the go.
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Cam is not negative value but he is worth more to GWS of their books. 7 and 15 and Cam for pick 3 and a future 2nd rounder should be the go.
The thing is the Kersten part is speculative. It's just as likely it doesn't include him and if not would you be happy?
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Ai so much of this , first day trade gone. Hopefully not like last year nothing happen on trade week.
Make GWS pay a premium for having access to selecting one of the best rated kids in the land.
The Suns handed over two picks inside the top ten for both Martin & O'meara.Both Martin & O'meara would've gone top three IMO.
GWS need CM off the payroll so it sounds!
The Suns handed over two picks inside the top ten for both Martin & O'meara.Both Martin & O'meara would've gone top three IMO.
GWS need CM off the payroll so it sounds!
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The reasonable people around here seem to be falling every minute, finally someone else who see's how ridiculous people are being. Turning pick 3 into 7, 15 and McCarthy would be one of the greatest steals in draft history (yet alone 5 & 7). Like in one of the other 10 drafting threads we have going. The talent pool from pick 3 to 7 in this draft is dead even: SPS, Brodie, Taranto, English, Ainsworth, we cant go wrong (though I would rather not English if I could choose, but I dont know enough about what to look for in ruckman)
Sure. Like I said, not my first choice but far from crazy.
How do you decipher what the Suns paid for Martin & O'meara in the the mini-draft then?
A top three pick inside the ND is a big big deal IMO!
Spot on. If we had picks 5 & 7 and an opposition supporter suggested we trade it for pick 3 they'd get laughed at. If they wanted 5, 7 and Alex Pearce for pick 3........
I would say McCarthy's currently worth pick 30ish but if pick 3 is on the table in any form the club probably rate him more highly (or are aware of what WCE are willing to part with if the trade lingers on and don't want to be trumped).
Im not convinced of the doubling of points argument either. But you (and others) have got to stop thinking it's just about a points exchange.
If GWS give up 7 and 16 and McCarthy for 3, then:
They get more points in one draft pick. (This year GWS are only allowed to have the same number of live picks as the number of spaces on their list - so unlike last year, they need to have as few, high draft picks as possible.)
They get the chance to pick up the player they really really want - McGrath. And don't lose the ability to pick up the three GWS players that they are chasing. This is why I said it's like doubling the points value, because it is a shot at a top 10 player that GWS would not otherwise have.
They remove McCarthy from their list and free up another draft pick, which they need for points allocations.
I have no doubt that GWS will attempt to have their cake and eat it too. They will attempt to use the points argument, even though it is fallacious. But if Freo buys their talk, they will make like bandits.
The trade you are comparing with was Eagles trading with Collingwood:
11, 31 and 49 for 6 and 44 in 2013. It isn't really comparable to a trade involving an academy club.
I would be much happier to trade McCarthy for a third rounder than trade McCarthy for a downgrade of pick 3 and no other compensation
But we are not an academy club are we? It is like comparing apples with things that are completely unlike apples.
It can be taken into consideration but it doesn't mean GWS will accept crap trades.
You don't get it.
If GWS get to trade up to 3, they get one of the biggest steals in AFL history. Why shouldn't Freo get a benefit?
Did you not read my longer posts?
How is 7,16 and McCarthy for 3 a crap trade for Freo?
Edit: meant to say How is 7,16 and McCarthy for 3 a crap trade for GWS?
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Marchbank and Pickett have requested a trade to Carlton, I wonder if #5 would be involved because that sounds sweeter than #7
Also what is the hype over English being inside the top ten, it seems an awful lot for a ruckman. Is he that good
Also what is the hype over English being inside the top ten, it seems an awful lot for a ruckman. Is he that good
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I like that a lot more with the proviso we don't give Hawks pick 16 for Hill
I was thinking skyscrapers. But worms live in apples, and people live in skyscrapers, so they are not different enough!
Nope. GWS win with that deal more than Freo does. Although Freo get an extra first round pick, they lose the right to pick the player they want. Hopefully the even top 7 will mean it won't matter too much.
But GWS have the academy kids at their mercy,fifteen other AFL clubs don't have this privilege.
I reckon Hawthorn have already agreed to a theoretical early second round pick. So hopefully they'll accept the Mayne compensation, or we can turn that 16 into two later picks, one of which goes to Hill.
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Its going to be a long week
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Is b.hill deal definely go through no matter what? I think he is a good player , but kind of tight freo hand of flexibility in trade this year .
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