List Mgmt. The Official Cam McCarthy Superultramega Thread - Deal done!

[ilikepotatoes]

Not trying to be pessimistic but still have real concerns we may end up with buyers remorse in regard to Cam in 12 months time.

He's what 21? And a key forward. Wait until he's 25 before you right him off.

 

[Dump Truck]

Not trying to be pessimistic but still have real concerns we may end up with buyers remorse in regard to Cam in 12 months time.

He was considered to be a taller Fyfe in his draft vid by some. He's not a bloke who can lead a forward line but I reckon he'll be one of the best second forwards the games ever seen.

 

[FUS_RO_DAH]

He's not a bloke who can lead a forward line but I reckon he'll be one of the best second forwards the games ever seen.

 

[dimesdimesdimes]

Can we all just lower the expectations on the kid please

 

[poshman]

Can we all just lower the expectations on the kid please

The problem is if he comes as part of a downgraded pick 3 trade there will be high expectations.

For low expectations the deal has to be far in our favor. 3 for two firsts and cam. Don't think that will happen though.

 

[balthazarthedonk]

Can we all just lower the expectations on the kid please

Good call. Although... from that vid there is definitely something Fyfe-like about his leap and his ability to crumb the ball and scramble through goals

 

[Kenny_01]

GWS were so desperate to keep him, probably more so than any other player. Given the talent on their list, that should say something.

He may need half a season to get up and going but will be a great forward for us.

And let's be honest, the only reason he sat out 12 months is because he loves the FFC. He will be very loyal to the club.


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[meima]

Yup pick 3 for cam mac , deal done.

 

[Clems Knee]

GWS were so desperate to keep him, probably more so than any other player. Given the talent on their list, that should say something.

He may need half a season to get up and going but will be a great forward for us.

And let's be honest, the only reason he sat out 12 months is because he loves the FFC. He will be very loyal to the club.


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Or, the only reason he sat out for a year is that he had a diagnosed mental health condition.
We hope he becomes the player that you suggest. But it is nowhere near certain.

 

[Kenny_01]

Or, the only reason he sat out for a year is that he had a diagnosed mental health condition.
We hope he becomes the player that you suggest. But it is nowhere near certain.

It's not. But I'm fairly confident.



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[theridge]

Am I right to say that he can swing and play back if needed? I vaguely remember him playin in defence for a bit.

 

[Taylor]

Am I right to say that he can swing and play back if needed? I vaguely remember him playin in defence for a bit.

He finished the 2014 season down back in the NEAFL

 

[Dump Truck]

Ok... That was a tad overzealous...

 

[UFO Tatsu]

Going backwards:
#3: Mills | Brayshaw | Billings | Plowman | Tyson | Day | Martin | Hill | Masten | Hansen | Ellis | Griffen | Sylvia | Brennan | Judd
#7: Hopper | Ahern | Aish | Wines | Haynes | Caddy | Sheppard | Rich | Palmer | Selwood | Ryder | Lewis | Tenace | Mackie | Hale

Pretty uninspiring stuff overall. Pick 3 is not the guaranteed star that some are assuming, and about a 50% chance of completely blowing the selection. Same with #7 or the top 10 in general. I reckon you could throw darts at a big board of the best prospects and do just as good a job as any recruiter on draft day.

It's not going to be predictable who ends up the best out of that #3 to #7 range. So I don't think there's any point losing sleep over downgrading, as we really have no idea whether it's the right thing to do or not.

SYLVIA ?!? Get rid of the pick !!!

 

[manpurple]

I'm with a bunch of other people. If we trade pick #3 for the points equivalent we get screwed because all the compensation pick push back later picks and so third round picks could be 5 or 6 places back from where they started.

So really IMHO we trade for benefit. In this case clubs like GWS want pick before where they anticipate their academe players will be picked. This allows them to draft quality and then use "bad" picks to pay for their academe players. As they get a 20% discount on the points of their academe picks (for 3 or 4 players) which means that you could theoretically charge a 10% points premium plus a points fee for slippage of late picks.
In this scenario pick #3 is about 2234 but we should be trading for about 2460-2570 points.
Pans out something like this for me https://www.draftguru.com.au/pick-value-calculator#3,39,59|Cameron McCarthy,7,16,35

I would think that 35 would be close to getting B Hill traded.

Leaves us with 7, 16 and Mayne compo in the second.

 

[Simmofreo]

Welcome cam mccarthy

 

[freo_leo29]

Welcome to Fremantle Cameron!

 

[rgauci]

If we do pick 3 into 7, 31 and McCarthy, then turn 31 into Kersten or Hamling. Use 7 to pick up Logue. That's a pretty fruitful pick 3. Amazing really. You know Logue is a lefty, 193cm, athletic beast. Immediate best 22 in the backline.

 

[freo_leo29]

3 for 7 33 71 and McCarthy

 

[im_a_lazy_sod]

Yep 3 for Sunshine plus 7, 33 and 71 is pretty good

 

[Deveraux]

3 for 7 33 71 and McCarthy

Yeah just heard confirmed on Trade Radio.

2234 points out
2236 & Cam in

 

[UFO Tatsu]

3 for 7 33 71 and McCarthy

Nice result. Have our top 10 and mid range pick in 33 for trades.

 

[Lazza040]

Is pick 71 , something we can use ? Or a rookie upgrade .. Sigh

 

[UFO Tatsu]

Yeah just heard confirmed on Trade Radio.

2234 points out
2236 & Cam in

Got Cam as steak knives

 

[Keys]

That's a good trade for you guys

May still get the player you would have taken at 3 - this will probably happen so you're getting McCarthy for free

Plus you get pick 31 to use in the draft or on trade for kersten or
hamling

The GWS supporter should be fuming