Injury The OFFICIAL Injury Updates thread - 2 weeks

[garfmann]

2 weeks = 6-8 weeks so 3-4 sounds about right (18-28 weeks)

you forgot "test" = 2 - 3 weeks

 

[Mr Reliable]

Add:

Nick Dal Santo ("illness")
Scott Thompson (brain injury)

Also add:

Boomer (we don't play injured players) and
Goldy (ditto)

 

[giantroo]

 

[Benno_900]

He can stand?

He's right to go.

 

[South West 29]

That must be Gibbos kicking.

 

[True North]

Our first legit chance at a flag in forever and this happens.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Wood out for 6 weeks.

 

[Event Horizon]

Wood out for 6 weeks.

When the club says 6-8, it mostly ends up being 8-10.

 

[Arden]

I think the next player sponsor draw should be the chance to play seniors by the end of the season.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

When the club says 6-8, it mostly ends up being 8-10.

Scott said he would be touch and go for finals.

Which means he won't be right for finals and we will finish 9th.

 

[Viper2Jester]

Champion Data has been confirmed as complete joke of a way to analyze footy (if it hadn't already)

On there "games and points" system for injuries hurt factor so far this year, has North as the 13th most injury hit club!?

Yes 13th! It gives a caveat about in-game injuries but its still way off when you try and rationalise the points being so low.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-14/winners-and-losers-on-the-2016-injury-ladder

Ps: if someone knows how to embed the table that would be great

 

[hilly]

Champion Data has been confirmed as complete joke of a way to analyze footy (if it hadn't already)

On there "games and points" system for injuries hurt factor so far this year, has North as the 13th most injury hit club!?

Yes 13th! It gives a caveat about in-game injuries but its still way off when you try and rationalise the points being so low.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-14/winners-and-losers-on-the-2016-injury-ladder

Ps: if someone knows how to embed the table that would be great

Lies, damn lies and statistics.

 

[Twinkletoes]

Champion Data has been confirmed as complete joke of a way to analyze footy (if it hadn't already)

On there "games and points" system for injuries hurt factor so far this year, has North as the 13th most injury hit club!?

Yes 13th! It gives a caveat about in-game injuries but its still way off when you try and rationalise the points being so low.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-14/winners-and-losers-on-the-2016-injury-ladder

Ps: if someone knows how to embed the table that would be great

Winners and losers on the 2016 injury ladder
Nathan Schmook July 14, 2016 7:00 AM

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Nat Fyfe leaves the field after his season-ending injury against Carlton


WHEN Collingwood and North Melbourne assess their respective fortunes at the end of 2016, injuries will play a big role in the off-season post-mortems.

On pure numbers, the Magpies have a case that no team has been hit harder, with more games lost to injury than any other club and an early-season barrage preventing any momentum from forming.

But the timing and nature of the Kangaroos' recent woes has been particularly cruel, with a spate of setbacks playing a key role in their rapid drop from first to eighth on the ladder.

An injury ladder developed for AFL.com.au sheds light on the teams that have been cruelled and those that have escaped relatively unscathed.

And using the Schick AFL Player Ratings, Champion Data is able to highlight the talent 'cost' of every injury.

The Magpies have not only lost more games to injury this year than any other club, but the 'cost' of those injuries has been higher than every club except Fremantle – the other club with claims as the hardest hit.

The 'cost' of an injury is the difference between that player's Player Ratings average and that of the next best available player who is outside the team and plays in the same position.

As an example, injured Dockers star Nat Fyfe averages 18.9 points a game and Freo's next best midfielder not in its 22 is Tendai Mzungu, who averages 6.9 points a game.

The 'cost' to the Dockers in that particular week is therefore 12 points.

If there are 22 available players who average more Player Ratings points than the injured player, there is no cost to that injury.

Champion Data also increases the cost slightly if there are no available players in the same position available for selection.

When the total cost of every injury this season is added up, Fremantle comes out well ahead of the competition with 431 points.

Collingwood ranks No.2 with 263 points, while Hawthorn (253) and the Brisbane Lions (234) round out the top four after 16 rounds.

Gold Coast is notable for its games lost – ranked No.2 with 126 games – but the talent cost (179 points) has not been as significant. It will likely soar now that Gary Ablett has been ruled out for the final seven rounds.

At the other end of the ladder, Adelaide has enjoyed a blessed run, losing just 36 points in total at the selection table because of injury.

Melbourne (59 points), St Kilda (66), Carlton (81) and West Coast (85) have also enjoyed a good injury run.

The injury ladder
Club Games lost (rank) Total cost (points) Rank
Fremantle 125 (3) 431 1
Collingwood 129 (1) 263 2
Hawthorn 84 (8) 253 3
Brisbane Lions 87 (7) 234 4
GWS 97 (5) 195 5
Gold Coast 126 (2) 179 6
Richmond 91 (6) 177 7
Western Bulldogs 99 (4) 174 8
Sydney Swans 68 (13) 155 9
Port Adelaide 64 (14) 150 10
Essendon 61 (15) 137 11
Geelong 73 (9) 123 12
North Melbourne 71 (10) 89 13
West Coast 53 (17) 85 14
Carlton 69 (12) 81 15
St Kilda 36 (18) 66 16
Melbourne 70 (11) 59 17
Adelaide 60 (16) 36 18
Another layer to the injury ladder is in-game injuries, which play a key role in results and have particularly cruelled North Melbourne in its four-week fall from first to eighth.

It's been the quickest such fall since Port Adelaide went from first to 10th in mid-2007, and in-game setbacks have had an undeniable impact.

Starting against Geelong in round 12, the Kangaroos have suffered 11 in-game injuries, with five of those ending a player's day prematurely – Andrew Swallow (concussion), Ben Cunnington (corked thigh), Luke McDonald (hamstring) and Farren Ray (concussion and hamstring).

Over the course of the season, no team has finished a game at least one player down more often than the Kangaroos, who have suffered game-ending injuries in all but five games.

Adelaide, again, has enjoyed the best run, equal with West Coast in suffering just one game-ending injury in 15 matches.

How each club fares with in-game injuries
AVAILABLE PLAYERS AT END OF GAME
Club 22 21 20 19 18
North Melbourne 5 9 1 0 0
Gold Coast 6 4 5 0 0
Brisbane Lions 7 5 3 0 0
Fremantle 8 7 0 0 0
Collingwood 8 5 1 0 1
St Kilda 9 4 1 1 0
Western Bulldogs 9 6 0 0 0
Sydney Swans 9 4 2 0 0
Melbourne 10 5 0 0 0
Richmond 10 3 1 1 0
Essendon 10 4 1 0 0
Carlton 10 4 1 0 0
Geelong 11 4 0 0 0
GWS 11 2 2 0 0
Port Adelaide 12 2 1 0 0
Hawthorn 12 3 0 0 0
Adelaide 14 1 0 0 0
West Coast 14 1 0 0 0
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[Twinkletoes]

The absolute key to the above is:

"Over the course of the season, no team has finished a game at least one player down more often than the Kangaroos, who have suffered game-ending injuries in all but five games."

 

[Viper2Jester]

The absolute key to the above is:

"Over the course of the season, no team has finished a game at least one player down more often than the Kangaroos, who have suffered game-ending injuries in all but five games."

It is important to our losses no doubt. Geel in particular.

But I feel they grossly underestimate our "points" score though, its nonsense.

 

[jclei]

Mitch Hibberd (knee) – 1 week
Taylor Garner (hamstring) – 1-2 weeks
Ben Jacobs (foot) – 2-3 weeks
Shaun Higgins (knee) – 4-5 weeks
Sam Wright (ankle) – 4-5 weeks
Luke McDonald (hamstring) – 5 weeks
Farren Ray (hamstring) – 6 weeks
Mason Wood (knee) – TBC
Aaron Black (ankle) – TBC

This was last updated on Saturday but having a look at it - we cant complain about a huge horrible injury list any more. Yes we have a few on here who are auto ins but apart from Higgins, we have pretty much all of our star players in the side. No more excuses about injuries anymore.

If Goldy or Cunners are sore, rest them - we have Daw and Dumont fit. Waite, Wells and Dal have had the week to come up to speed and should play better this Friday. Lets get a proper fit side on the park

 

[Twinkletoes]

There are murmurings that another two names will be added to the above list this week, and it (if true) won't make for happy reading.

 

[the big lebowski]

There are murmurings that another two names will be added to the above list this week, and it (if true) won't make for happy reading.

To be honest, it's probably for the best.

Unless its Boomer.

 

[GarnerSmash]

There are murmurings that another two names will be added to the above list this week, and it (if true) won't make for happy reading.

 

[Twinkletoes]

To be honest, it's probably for the best.

Unless its Boomer.

Not Boomer, thank God, he's bloody flying since his corked calf settled down.

Exactly my reaction. We'll have to wait for the official list to come out, even though it never seems to mention the players who ARE playing with injuries.

 

[the big lebowski]

There are murmurings that another two names will be added to the above list this week, and it (if true) won't make for happy reading.

Are we talking players with the initials TG, BC, DW?

 

[Twinkletoes]

Are we talking players with the initials TG, BC, DW?

Nup.

 

[DrZaius]

Is it Waite and Wells again?

Waite looked sore after landing heavily and in the 2nd Quarter Wells was limping around.

 

[Groucho]

Nup.

Not RT please!!

 

[Twinkletoes]

Is it Waite and Wells again?

Waite looked sore after landing heavily and in the 2nd Quarter Wells was limping around.

Waite and Turner. Hopefully the first one's a scare rather than a recurrence, but Sugar's is likely to keep him out way beyond his club imposed ban. As I said, we'll have to wait and see what's reported after each has been assessed.