The one they don't rate (and they're wrong)

[ilikepotatoes]

Jon Griffin.

Would be first ruck at quite a lot of clubs.

 

[Damon_3388]

Oh, and Daisy Thomas.

I thought he was a skirt for ages - very wrong.

Why did he ever have a reputation for being soft?

 

[Mateyman]

From Essendon it's probably Hooker. Started like a house on fire last year- I think he conceded about a dozen goals in the first 8 rounds (including Cloke, Petrie, J Riewoldt, J Brown and Darling). Just don't let him kick it

Didn't Cloke destroy Hooker to the point where Hurley was moved onto him, or was that the second game or someone else?

 

[Mateyman]

Maxwell is underrated by non-Collingwood supporters (although he can do some very frustrating things)

 

[FromDaics2Dids]

Danny Stanley

 

[The Prosecutor]

That says more about Essendon's list than his ability.

He's a very good kick, and can find space well. He's far too much of an outside player, though, and hasn't improved since his first year.

That's complete bullshit.

He's been improving the whole time.

Unless you're just looking at stats, which if so, there's no use continuing this discussion with you.

 

[The Prosecutor]

Didn't Cloke destroy Hooker to the point where Hurley was moved onto him, or was that the second game or someone else?

Round 23. By that point the floodgates were open and our defenders had little chance. Cloke gave him a trouncing that night though.

 

[eth-dog]

Didn't Cloke destroy Hooker to the point where Hurley was moved onto him, or was that the second game or someone else?

second game. Cloke kicked 3 on Hooker on ANZAC Day, 2 of them lucky shots from 55 out

 

[half_back_flank]

Small to medium defenders seem to get forgotten all the time.

Toovey, Dempster and Patful don't get enough love for the job that they do. Smith seems to getting his dues after Sydney GF win, but he had been very good for a couple of years.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Reece Conca.

 

[Danog]

That's complete bullshit.

He's been improving the whole time.

Unless you're just looking at stats, which if so, there's no use continuing this discussion with you.

How are you measuring his improvement, if not by stats?

 

[Sons_of_a_Gun]

Tom Lonergan for me.

Many believed including me, that he was a big spud and he only kept his spot on the list due to losing his kidney. And while it did take a little while once he came back into the side to change anyone's mind of that, his move back has been outstanding and i honestly believe he has flourished into one of the best key defenders in the league.
I think he had developed into a very good player well before most of the media and supporters had cottoned on. That includes narrow minded Geelong supporters who wouldn't change their opinion of him due to the fact that they would have been wrong about something, despite being consistently good week in week out. Personal Family members are included

Even though one of my favourite players at Geelong, I am stunned at how much Harry Taylor is praised externally and still how much Lonergan is underrated, when the majority of the time it is 'beans' (as I and my mates have dubbed him due to the kidney incident (kidney beans)) who goes to the monster forward. I couldn't be happier i was wrong about him.

 

[The Prosecutor]

How are you measuring his improvement, if not by stats?

I guess you think Boyd Is in the top 5 or so midfielders then?

 

[You Heard Me]

Cotchin aside, Tigers and Roos do not have one player on their combined lists who looks as likely or has shown as much as Heppell. Not sure why they have such an issue here. Incredible first couple of years and showed round 1 what we are likely to see spending more time on the ball. Young Gun!
Def Harry O for us. Looks likely as a mobile marking wing/forward flanker.

 

[robertg22]

For Richmond, I'd say Jake King.

'Everyone' knows he's a spud, but gee, Richmond wins a lot more often when he's playing than when he's not.

Not questioning his importance to your side, but in 88 games he has won just 30 times..

For us it's probably Maxwell. People just think he needs to be a superstar because he is captain, but he is a very solid player for us, had a great 2012 after missing games in 2011 through injury. He was one of our best last night also IMO

 

[Prestigerrycomo]

Has been mentioned, but it is Jake King for us. Even from Richmond supporters I hear all the time that he has a 'lack of skill but makes up for it with his intensity/desire' etc. This is not true, King is really agile and has some serious smarts when he is around the ball in the forward half. Yes he is a maniac and yes he did used to butcher the ball when he played off half back but to say he lacks talent and only gets by through work ethic is severely misjudging him.

Thought he played pretty well Thursday

 

[laminex]

Lindsay Thomas, Scott Thompson and Scott McMahon.

L.Thomas can play he's just the type of player who will strut around after a goal even if yr 100 points down, he thinks the world is throwing him a party to honour him.

 

[Macca19]

Definitely Westhoff. Significantly better than most give him credit for...even his own supporters.

 

[laminex]

For Collingwood Harry O'Brien divides opinion

Harry is a great player who puts him down?

He leaves him self open because he has an opinion and you know how Aussies hate someone with an opinion

 

[treefingers]

Schoenmakers . Everybody notices the mistakes but he's a 22 yr old key defender playing on monsters above his weight each week. He has the talent and with Lake able to take the big forward each week (as he should) Schoey will start to show his talent. Not to mention the fact that he spent his entire junior career as a forward, he's done quite well so far.

He had a fantastic grand final but I guess nobody notices him when he plays well, as is almost always the case with key defenders.

 

[LoungeLizard]

I guess you think Boyd Is in the top 5 or so midfielders then?

stats don't lie, the trouble is a lot of people don't read all the stats

 

[Superstar swan]

3 letters .... L........R ........ T

 

[Astro Bomber]

Atley. Has this guy gone backwards?

 

[THRILLHO]

Scott McMahon.

Nowhere near a star but, as they say in the NBA, he's a glue guy. Holds the team together and makes the defence better. Had a case of The Hives last year, missed half a season, came back in, and our defence stopped leaking like a sieve and we went on a tear. Missed him horribly last night.

North's kick-outs have always been pretty average even going back to the Brady Rawlings long down the line option of yesteryear, but McMahon made us a bit better. Last night was like a throwback to the bad old days of kick-ins.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Not sure about "not rating" but Nathan Brown seems to have gone under the radar for the past two years since he demolished Riewoldt in 2010 and then demolished his knee not long after.