Opinion The PB's - a celebration of 150 years. This year or later?

[The Burger King]

The club serving up this bullshit false dichotomy is ****ing pathetic. They're ****ing ***** scoundrels. Fight for our ****ing history you ****heads.

 

[El_Scorcho]

The club serving up this bullshit false dichotomy is ******* pathetic. They're ******* ***** scoundrels. Fight for our ******* history you fu**heads.

It's infuriating to have Matthew Richardson show both what appeared to be genuine interest in connecting better with supporters, and genuine interested in the #bringbackthebars campaign, and then umm and err on whether we should wear the bars as early and often as possible.

If the AFL has decreed that we can only wear the bars once and a second showing is out of the question, f**ken tell us that so we know where to direct our vitriol. Instead the club refuse to commit to anything and as such we have all this momentum and nowhere to direct it. What the messaging suggests is that club deliberately muddy the waters about the status of the bars moving forward because they don't want us to know for sure they've settled for a poor deal and push them into having to take the fight to the AFL. They don't have the mettle to enter into that fight. It's pathetic and that loser attitude from the top permeates throughout the club.

 

[Workingclass]

It's infuriating to have Matthew Richardson show both what appeared to be genuine interest in connecting better with supporters, and genuine interested in the #bringbackthebars campaign, and then umm and err on whether we should wear the bars as early and often as possible.

There was a long spiel from memory last year on Twitter where he asked for feedback about membership being down, then going on to basically disagree with every piece of feedback received. Port has run that many polls over the years, even one asking what the preferred home guernsey is last year? Clearly they're too spineless to release that information, because if it was anything other than PB's I daresay that have released something letting the fans know as such. We really need some change across the whole admin.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

It's infuriating to have Matthew Richardson show both what appeared to be genuine interest in connecting better with supporters, and genuine interested in the #bringbackthebars campaign, and then umm and err on whether we should wear the bars as early and often as possible.

If the AFL has decreed that we can only wear the bars once and a second showing is out of the question, f**ken tell us that so we know where to direct our vitriol. Instead the club refuse to commit to anything and as such we have all this momentum and nowhere to direct it. What the messaging suggests is that club deliberately muddy the waters about the status of the bars moving forward because they don't want us to know for sure they've settled for a poor deal and push them into having to take the fight to the AFL. They don't have the mettle to enter into that fight. It's pathetic and that loser attitude from the top permeates throughout the club.

For some reason this reminded me of the membership survey question a few years back when they asked about what jumper we would prefer to wear at home. From memory they phrased it "black and white striped" jumper instead of calling it the Prison Bars. Suggestive questioning at its best.

Tired of the club paying lip service on this.

 

[PowerBaz]

I’d say it could work with people power.

Imagine 85% of the crowd every single home game in TV work the prison bars, make it a national spectacle by having it displayed on TV - make it so it’s heard loud, the club clearly won’t do it, bring back the bars is a start but something more visual would be awesome.

How do we organise printing 35,000 jumper looking things for people to wear?

it could even be just be shirts people slip on.

Eddie would see it, the AFL could see it and there is nothing they could do about it.

 

[TeeKray]

I’d say it could work with people power.

Imagine 85% of the crowd every single home game in TV work the prison bars, make it a national spectacle by having it displayed on TV - make it so it’s heard loud, the club clearly won’t do it, bring back the bars is a start but something more visual would be awesome.

How do we organise printing 35,000 jumper looking things for people to wear?

it could even be just be shirts people slip on.

Eddie would see it, the AFL could see it and there is nothing they could do about it.

There are endless ways to get a strong message across without breaching any sort of rules, you only have to read this forum and you'll find dozens of them.

The only conclusion to be had here is that the club just don't care.

 

[VineValerian]

I’d say it could work with people power.

Imagine 85% of the crowd every single home game in TV work the prison bars, make it a national spectacle by having it displayed on TV - make it so it’s heard loud, the club clearly won’t do it, bring back the bars is a start but something more visual would be awesome.

How do we organise printing 35,000 jumper looking things for people to wear?

it could even be just be shirts people slip on.

Eddie would see it, the AFL could see it and there is nothing they could do about it.,

Maybe el cheapo PB's printed on t-shirts.
Sell them for $5 each from a booth outside the AO.

Those of us with the commemorative PB can wear them of course.

Get 30k PB's on the tv screen and watch Gil and Eddie's faces turn purple with rage.

 

[El_Scorcho]

There are endless ways to get a strong message across without breaching any sort of rules, you only have to read this forum and you'll find dozens of them.

The only conclusion to be had here is that the club just don't care.

Arguing with the AFL might be hard, and the club has zero genuine interest in achieving anything difficult to achieve.

We've talked about it for years. 24 years in the league and the mythical agreement has never been sighted. The battle lines have never been drawn. We have overwhelming support from the membership and a lot of momentum, but we have no where to direct it because we don't know where the impasse is.

The least the club could do is be transparent on this issue. They won't even do that, because if we know where the battle lines are drawn, we'll pressure the club to step up to them. They have zero interest in having a difficult conversation internally or externally.

We are truly a pathetic rabble of a football club. Just disgraceful.

 

[Grave Danger]

I wonder how many of the 150th Anniversary PB jumpers have been sold. This may (or may not) be evidence that could be presented to the AFL to show what a money spinner the PBs can be for the club on an ongoing basis, with match worns especially fetching premium prices.

 

[Alex09]

Maybe el cheapo PB's printed on t-shirts.
Sell them for $5 each from a booth outside the AO.

Those of us with the commemorative PB can wear them of course.

Get 30k PB's on the tv screen and watch Gil and Eddie's faces turn purple with rage.

This is exactly the sort of thing that needs to be done. Those leading the club have proved how spineless they are. People power by the fans can win the fight though with the appropriate visuals that the AFL can not ignore. The easiest and best way to get the momentum snowballing is the cheersquad has to ditch the teal, completely.

 

[Pt Augusta Power]

Club clearly is only allowed to wear them once. Short of actually showing they GAF about supporters and the club- we’ll see the WP’s/PB’s once more in the next decade

seriously our club is completely pointless,

wear them next showdown. And every ****ing showdown afterwards.

 

[bomberclifford]

For some reason this reminded me of the membership survey question a few years back when they asked about what jumper we would prefer to wear at home. From memory they phrased it "black and white striped" jumper instead of calling it the Prison Bars. Suggestive questioning at its best.

That would have been done intentionally, but not for nefarious reasons. They would need to eradicate any bias against the name "prison bars" or "wharf pylons" in the survey results, and a neutral descriptive term would help with that.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

It's infuriating to have Matthew Richardson show both what appeared to be genuine interest in connecting better with supporters, and genuine interested in the #bringbackthebars campaign, and then umm and err on whether we should wear the bars as early and often as possible.

If the AFL has decreed that we can only wear the bars once and a second showing is out of the question, f**ken tell us that so we know where to direct our vitriol. Instead the club refuse to commit to anything and as such we have all this momentum and nowhere to direct it. What the messaging suggests is that club deliberately muddy the waters about the status of the bars moving forward because they don't want us to know for sure they've settled for a poor deal and push them into having to take the fight to the AFL. They don't have the mettle to enter into that fight. It's pathetic and that loser attitude from the top permeates throughout the club.

He's a weak weasel who says what people want to hear

I don't want him anywhere near our CEO job.

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[Brian McGee]

Koch was asked about it on the radio this morning. Said that a decision about wether or not we will wear them in rd 2 will be made in the next couple of days. When pressed about his preference for this year or next year in front of crowds, he said both. Wear it next week and then petition hard again to wear it next year and that it would be cruel of the afk to deny us after the events of this year relating to our 150th.

 

[DaTBird187]

Koch was asked about it on the radio this morning. Said that a decision about wether or not we will wear them in rd 2 will be made in the next couple of days. When pressed about his preference for this year or next year in front of crowds, he said both. Wear it next week and then petition hard again to wear it next year and that it would be cruel of the afk to deny us after the events of this year relating to our 150th.

He's getting there. Slowly and reluctantly, but he's getting there.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

That would have been done intentionally, but not for nefarious reasons. They would need to eradicate any bias against the name "prison bars" or "wharf pylons" in the survey results, and a neutral descriptive term would help with that.

It didn't describe it precisely though which is problematic in the sense that it could be interpreted to be in the style of Collingwood/Hawthorn/Norf. Between effectively communicating the design and trying to eliminate bias surely the former is preferable?

 

[Hodges 153!]

He's getting there. Slowly and reluctantly, but he's getting there.

It's genuinely baffling how that wasn't his opening position, instead of the vague "should we, shouldn't we" lukewarm bullshit we got.

Like someone said earlier "start high".

"We're wearing them now, and because there's no crowd, we expect to be allowed to wear them again next time as well"

Not fking difficult.

 

[Spadge]

Wear it in Round 2
then next year
and every game forever after

Can you imagine Big Bob McLean being told that Port cant wear its own guernsey? We'd be wearing it now

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

It's genuinely baffling how that wasn't his opening position, instead of the vague "should we, shouldn't we" lukewarm bullshit we got.

Like someone said earlier "start high".

"We're wearing them now, and because there's no crowd, we expect to be allowed to wear them again next time as well"

Not fking difficult.

"We are wearing them now. We will be wearing them again. This is our jumper and our history."

Koch was more forceful about GC wearing white in the first China game (lol) than Port wearing the bars again at some point in the near or distant future.

 

[bomberclifford]

It didn't describe it precisely though which is problematic in the sense that it could be interpreted to be in the style of Collingwood/Hawthorn/Norf. Between effectively communicating the design and trying to eliminate bias surely the former is preferable?

In the context of a survey of Port members though, everyone knew what they were referring too. The were just trying to avoid the negative responses from people who don't like the term "prison bars".

 

[bomberclifford]

vague "should we, shouldn't we" lukewarm bullshit

Can someone get this translated into latin?

This should be our new club motto.

 

[bomberclifford]

"We're wearing them now, and because there's no crowd, we expect to be allowed to wear them again next time as well"

It's crazy. This is such a logical and easy to understand response that it defies belief that they didn't run with it by default.

We are the masters of making rods for our own backs.

 

[Winestoppable]

So have the board had this meeting yet...?

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[chiwigi]

Can someone get this translated into latin?

This should be our new club motto.

OPORTET SIMUS DEHEBIO SIMUS

 

[Brian McGee]

Statement: Black-and-white Prison Bar guernsey
https://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/701832

This is great. I am glad we went this option. Excitement for next Saturday is starting to build!