Opinion The PB's - a celebration of 150 years. This year or later?
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Koch shouldn't be putting any limitations or conditions in it's use. Just say we want to wear them at our discretion going forward.
Learn from previous administrations faults, stop putting conditions or limitations on the use of the guernsey.
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RussellEbertHandball
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So basically every time we want to wear it, we've got to go to the AFL and ask, because of celebrating a historical significant game/event, then they probably say, go sort it out with Collingwood appears to be how it works.
2003 Heritage Round we manage to be allowed to wear 1914 Invincibles PB's.
2004 Heritage Round - to keep it calm wear the Magenta.
2005 Heritage Round - wear the baby blue from 1870.
2006 Heritage Round theme 1980's. Gilligan asks us to wear an 80's training jumper. We say get stuffed.
2007 Heritage Round theme 1970's. AFL embarrassed so allow us to wear 1977 jumper, but force an agreement between us and Collingwood, that AFL say we can wear it or any future heritage rounds provided not against Collingwood.
2008 AFL piss their pants and mysteriously scrap heritage round.
2013 get to wear it for last home game at Footy Park. Koch and Cardone smoothed it over with McGuire we were in the shit financially and this would help us and AFL didn't have to give us extra $$$.
2014 a bonus, as Mark "The Moron" Evans doesn't think the average footy viewer with HD TV can't recoginise the difference between a normal Port jumper and Richmond jumper in the EF. The Moron opened the gate, we pounced and said bullshit, if we have to wear a lot of white even though we are the home team, we will wear our heritage jumper and not a clash jumper. The AFL couldn't say no, Collingwood were irrelevant they finished 11th and would never see any September action, so it all happened very quickly out of thin air.
So the precedent has been set. We need our club to get a hardball on this issue, Ollie Wines style not Nathan bloody Lonie style which we seem to be exhibiting too often on this issue.
I get the way you feel about it but I'm telling ya Koch ain't the guy for this.
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Koch gets us 2021 and every home showdown then he has done his job. I doubt he will be chair post 2021. the next bloke can fight harder than Koch.
Hope you are right but as usual his limiting foot in mouth bile continues to hamper us.
Players like Ollie coming out and saying publicly they want to wear it helps heaps.
I had a dream of us playing in a gf and ebert kicking the sealer with a celebration of stripping the BIB off to reveal prison bars underneath hahaha
I had a dream of us playing in a gf and ebert kicking the sealer with a celebration of stripping the BIB off to reveal prison bars underneath hahaha
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Non-binding. Restraint of trade. Force majeure. Change of circumstances. Pandemic. Survival. $10,000,000 per club penalty. No crowds. No China. No-hopers on our side of the fence seemingly everywhere you look.
We just need one strong, righteous voice.
I think of Deng Xiaoping. There were these signed Hong Kong lease agreements with Perfidious Albion - which, by the way, is an apt epithet for AFL House. One lease was signed circa 1840 and was ‘in perpetuity’. The second circa 1861, ditto. The third 1898, for a period of 99 years, covering 90% of HK acreage.
Thatcher says to Deng in 1982 the leases are ‘legal documents’ and two state ‘in perpetuity’.
“Things change,” Deng told her, and pointed at the calendar. “In 1997 we don’t care if we march into a wasteland. It will be OUR wasteland.”
You can’t second guess a strategy, and a voice, like that.
Eddie E. has no beef with the prison bars. It’s the black and the white, nebulous public domain, changing scenery that he, like Thatcher, insists is his and nobody else’s ... both before and after the change.
Watch your step, Eddie. The downward staircase has gravity on its side and you are getting fatter.
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RussellEbertHandball
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I found this statement from Collingwood on their website from May 2007 that I saved. I think there is some bloviation in the statement but the basic conditions are set out.
Collingwood statement on heritage jumper
6:49 PM Mon 14 May, 2007 | Back
Collingwood Football Club
for collingwoodfc.com.au
The Collingwood Football Club is pleased to advise that it has worked with the AFL and has agreed to accept a number of undertakings from the Port Adelaide Football Club in relation to protecting the Collingwood black and white stripes.
Whilst acutely aware of the history of the Port Adelaide Magpies in the SANFL, Collingwood was determined to protect the guernsey it has worn for over 100 years.
After numerous approaches by both the AFL and Port Adelaide Collingwood was prepared to permit Port Adelaide to wear its black and white “prison bar” guernsey for heritage round games where Port Adelaide was the home team other than when they play against Collingwood.
More importantly Port Adelaide has agreed that it will never wear a guernsey of predominantly black and white stripes or any other combination of colour and design that clash with the traditional Collingwood uniform.
Port Adelaide has also agreed that it will not commercially manufacture their black and white heritage guernsey.
Collingwood Football Club is pleased to have finally resolved this outstanding issue and as a gesture of good will, has agreed to allow Port Adelaide to wear their heritage guernsey in its away game against the Western Bulldogs in round 14 of this season.
Collingwood statement on heritage jumper
6:49 PM Mon 14 May, 2007 | Back
Collingwood Football Club
for collingwoodfc.com.au
The Collingwood Football Club is pleased to advise that it has worked with the AFL and has agreed to accept a number of undertakings from the Port Adelaide Football Club in relation to protecting the Collingwood black and white stripes.
Whilst acutely aware of the history of the Port Adelaide Magpies in the SANFL, Collingwood was determined to protect the guernsey it has worn for over 100 years.
After numerous approaches by both the AFL and Port Adelaide Collingwood was prepared to permit Port Adelaide to wear its black and white “prison bar” guernsey for heritage round games where Port Adelaide was the home team other than when they play against Collingwood.
More importantly Port Adelaide has agreed that it will never wear a guernsey of predominantly black and white stripes or any other combination of colour and design that clash with the traditional Collingwood uniform.
Port Adelaide has also agreed that it will not commercially manufacture their black and white heritage guernsey.
Collingwood Football Club is pleased to have finally resolved this outstanding issue and as a gesture of good will, has agreed to allow Port Adelaide to wear their heritage guernsey in its away game against the Western Bulldogs in round 14 of this season.
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Collingwood making a statement on another club's choice of guernsey. Welcome to the AFL.
Spot on. Invariably and inevitably, our spiritual jumper WILL be the cornerstone of our playing strips in the AFL.
It just has to be. How the hell can the best jumper in sport be mothballed because of Eddie and his inferiority complex? He won't be around forever.
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Off to court we go ... even though what was published by Collingwood is not a co-signed legal undertaking.
The defendant’s key phrases are: ‘protecting the Collingwood black and white stripes’ and ‘the traditional Collingwood uniform‘.
Both phrases apply to stripes that run full length from waistband to shoulder.
The Prison Bars do not. PAFC’s black and white stripes differ significantly from Collingwood’s.
Case closed. Get out Eddie. Don’t let the closing door bruise your fat arse.
RussellEbertHandball
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This 2007 thread started on May 12th, and last post on 14th, same day as Collingwood statement. Post #60 makes for iteresting reading.
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Eddie says yes, AFL says no
Looks like it's up to the clubs to come to an agreement about the use of the prison bar guernsey in heritage rounds. It seems the clubs have more common sense about recognising interstate heritage than the AFL does. Not in black and white MICHELANGELO RUCCI May 12, 2007 12:30am...
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Some wishy washy verbal agreement reached by a previous administration under duress 15 years ago in an entirely different set of circumstances means jack shit - especially when this so called agreement has been breached 2 and soon to be 3 times since.
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eddiewood doesn't really have any say in this - McLacklan let's him. Why, you ask? Maybe they just want to humour him, give his ego a stroke and a sense that he calls the shots. We're just the cannon fodder, and we have to suck it up if we want their beneficence on the China stuff.
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You’re right, it’s a significantly different design.
Whilst a contract doesn’t need to be in writing to be binding (regardless of if it is or isn’t in writing) that’s absolutely restraint of trade. Would be torn up in court.
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Rucci used to be (maybe still is?) a HoF selector, so may know something?
Did bio's of the current Port HoF members, then covered the SA Hall members and members of our Greatest Team.
Finished by stating that several members of Port's greatest team had compelling CV's for AFLHoF entry.
Maybe he knows something???? Let's wait and see tonite's and tomorrow night's Fox footy shows. Here's hoping
Rucci used to be (maybe still is?) a HoF selector, so may know something?
Did bio's of the current Port HoF members, then covered the SA Hall members and members of our Greatest Team.
Finished by stating that several members of Port's greatest team had compelling CV's for AFLHoF entry.
Maybe he knows something???? Let's wait and see tonite's and tomorrow night's Fox footy shows. Here's hoping
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Let’s compromise - Prison Balls.
Back on Hall of Fame, Rucci's article on the club website today covered the AFL, SANFL and PAFC Halls of Fame.
Rucci used to be (maybe still is?) a HoF selector, so may know something?
Did bio's of the current Port HoF members, then covered the SA Hall members and members of our Greatest Team.
Finished by stating that several members of Port's greatest team had compelling CV's for AFLHoF entry.
Maybe he knows something???? Let's wait and see tonite's and tomorrow night's Fox footy shows. Here's hoping
Greg Phillips is the talk.
Koch dragged to the starting line. The obvious next game is to push to wear against some non-Vic sides at home as well in 2021. We aren’t the only non-Vic sides sick of the VFL. I’m sure WC, Freo, Swans or Lions would be ok with it (Koch needlessly antagonised GC and GWS can’t take a piss without the AFL holding it for them). We must build on this.
