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The Perth travel myth
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Maybe in a national comp every side should play in all markets every year - 15 at home, 7 away - so easy !! The current system of some teams having 17 home games & others only 12, some travelling 10, others only 5 - yes, we understand you know some clubs have an advantage ... The only real solution ....
Q: why should WA fans agree on any issue.
You are claiming the flight is effectively a charter, fair dinkum unbelievable !!
Is it just Perth Launceston you claim this is used on ?
It is not a Myth, it is very real and any person with any brain knows it is real.
The Eagles and Dockers accepted it as part of joining the VFL and thats the way it is. The clubs don't worry themselves with it to much just the spectators do.
How much of a burden it is to them have ultimate success I guess no one will ever know, but it is there make no mistake about it.
The Eagles and Dockers accepted it as part of joining the VFL and thats the way it is. The clubs don't worry themselves with it to much just the spectators do.
How much of a burden it is to them have ultimate success I guess no one will ever know, but it is there make no mistake about it.
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Not really as that wasn't my argument. that was someone else's for why they understand the effects plum. They said they are fifo and have to fly across the country. I was just saying to them I'm also fifo and it's the working hours that stuff you around not the flights.
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But thats my point the physical recovery is something all players no matter what team must tackle. A flight isn't going to change it to much. If it did you wouldn't see the eagle be as successful as they have been through out their time in the AFL.
Direct Perth Launceston ? Happy to be wrong.
The recuperation is the damaging part of travel for sure - I thought the non Melbourne clubs might have grabbed the Essendon facility at Windy Hill as a pre flight recuperation centre.
I did the Perth Sydney FIFO every fortnight for ten (10) months & going home to a young family was tough, certainly not the break expected.
Qantas used to do them too.
In one of my previous posts their are links to other threads showing they were doing them as far back as 2003.
But you cant provide a link? I cant find a Perth Launceston or return link , come on harve, a man of your talent ....
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Yep I think that was part of the AFL deal with Virgin in 2011, every team had to get direct flights to every location.
I can't speak for West Coast, but Freo certainly got direct flights to Tassie with Qantas.
How on earth can you provide a link to a historical flight?
There probably are databases around with that info, but i'm not aware of them.
You keep flip flopping, is distance travelled in kms your problem?
You do understand the geography of Australia!? If a WA team wants to play in a national competition they are going to have to come to the east coast where the people are.
Is it flights to Tassie? Well that direct flight is shorter than to Sydney!
Is it longetivity? West Coast have had more 250 game players than Collingwood.
Or are you like Kwality who doesnt get that you fly direct to Tassie and he thinks it is fair for West Coast and Geelong to have 15 games at home!
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So it's not fair for West Coast to play at home more than 11 times but it's ok for Collingwood to play Carlton or Essendon at home at the MCG and 'away' at the the MCG?
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Out of interest I took a bit of a look around and found
http://www.flightstats.com/go/Home/home.do
which lists pretty much every flight in the world dating back a fair way, for Australia it goes back to about the start of 2005.
You have to create a free account to search historical flight info, so I did and searched Perth to Launceston flights and discovered that Qantas and Virgin have provided direct return flights for the Eagles and Freo to every Launceston game since the records began in 2005. For each game the teams travelled there 2 days before and returned the evening of the game, all on direct flights.
So for all the non believers out there (not you Rob) there you have it.
OFFICIAL RECORDS OF DIRECT FLIGHTS FROM PERTH TO LAUNCESTON FOR BOTH PERTH TEAMS SINCE AT LEAST 2005.
There is also evidence of direct flights dating back to 2003 based on threads I linked to in my previous posts.
Topkent
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Can't say I heard the WA Sheffield shield cricket team complain either, nor the scorchers, nor Perth heat nor the Wildcats. They are All successful teams at some stage..... I wonder why it only affects the Eagles?
Don't west coast play 'away' vs Freo?
Why haven't you also stated the 2 home games we play at ES?
Fair enough, I'm wrong. I look forward to pulling up the detail. Surprised you didn't link the data you pulled up !
You do realise that WC play 'away' against Fremantle at their home ground every year. How is that any different??
There are 9 teams in Melbourne and just 2 stadiums.
It is up to the Melbourne based teams to workout where they play their 11 home games.
So two MCG tenants will often play each other at the G.
Proposal from Kwality being to play 15 games in your home city. Clear it hasn't even been worked through.
There are 198 games each season = 11 x 18. With 88 games fixtured outside of Victoria and 110 in Vic (some Vic teams sell games so end result is usually 7-8 games in Geelong and 90 in Melbourne).
Funnily enough that seems like an equitable breakdown when you take into account the geographic spread of the teams.
Kwality proposes that each team gets 15 games in their city and just have to travel 7 times.
How does that fit into the current 198 game season structure??
Perth gets 28 games (2 Derby)
Adelaide 28 games (2 showdown)
Gold Coast 15
Brisbane 15
Sydney 15
WS/Canberra 15
That totals 116 games outside of Victoria...with just 82 games left.
Geelong host 15 games in Geelong, Sao this leaves just 67 games allocated to be scheduled in Melbourne.
Yet there are 9 fecking teams based in Melbourne!!
FAIL
