- Thread starter
- Moderator
- #1,251
I think if we offer some Adairs vouchers with every membership renewal we’ll be fine.
Seriously how many times ‘Adairs’
Getting very stale now.
-
AFLW 2024 - Round 9 - Indigenous Round - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Official Club Stuff The President & the Board - Sayers to continue as Pres until end of 2025
- Thread starter Aphrodite
- Start date
- Tagged users None
Seriously how many times ‘Adairs’
Getting very stale now.
Also no mention of the decision to not rest the cohort that were struggling with soreness in the rounds following the GWS game. We reaped a bumper crop there.
Sayers is a spin doctor. Am I supposed to think if I go to the AFLW, it will reverse last saturday nights Mens result?
The cliches the club keeps spinning isn't helping.
For sure mate,I'm sick of it year after year.
I haven't updated my new credit card details and keep getting text messages as they love the renew automatically option.
TENACIOUS
Premiership Player
- Aug 16, 2008
- 3,902
- 14,773
- AFL Club
- Carlton
I don’t get these emails for some reason
I thought Sayers letter was pretty brutally honest. The part about 1 AFL flag really hit home.
Not sure what people want from
Sayers … he sounded just as upset as us . Stick fat , we will try and be better ..probably didn’t have to spin the injuries part but did affect us .. our club had a very disappointing back half of the year … hopefully this spurs some changes … as someone previously said the next 2 months will be telling …if we stick with same same we have learnt nothing
Sayers … he sounded just as upset as us . Stick fat , we will try and be better ..probably didn’t have to spin the injuries part but did affect us .. our club had a very disappointing back half of the year … hopefully this spurs some changes … as someone previously said the next 2 months will be telling …if we stick with same same we have learnt nothing
Injuries absolutely derailed the season
Too many important players in and out throughout the season
- May 19, 2019
- 2,174
- 5,366
- AFL Club
- Carlton
Worth a try MJ, who knows!!
All presidents are spin doctors, without exception. However some are better at it than others.
The struggle I have with Luke Sayers is that he talks to us members as though we are PwC employee's or corporates, instead of showing some passion.
Why not try going away from the heavily curated spin we receive & write something with a bit of passion....I`m not saying come out & can all & sundry, but imagine if he started this weeks letter with something like:
"Well that was absolutely terrible, I`d imagine I wasn't the only one who wanted to curl up in the fetal position at half time"
I am sick of the spin, I want some meaningful communication from the club.
Beyond Blue
Premiership Player
- Jun 25, 2021
- 3,104
- 9,929
- AFL Club
- Carlton
Dear Luke
A high injury list has been a problem for the club for essentially the entire 12 years you have been a member of the Board.
As a board member you have ratified the appointment of a Football Manager charged with making the appointment of a High Performance Manager in 2018 and Fitness and Medical staff at various junctures since 2018 to the current day. You have also had the opportunity to interrogate their methods, receive feedback from relevant stakeholders about their performance and methods, benchmark against industry best practice and set performance parameters to ultimately hold said individuals to account.
During that time the club has had an approach to injury management, and by virtue of that high performance, that by any measure would rank well below industry standard and arguably at the very bottom of its peer group, with very little discernible evidence of year on year improvement.
Indeed there is possible evidence of regression during that time including errors that have occurred repeatedly over the last six years, most notably 1) the recurrence of non-collision based injuries and 2) playing players who are clearly hampered by injury and as a result do not perform to their optimum capacity.
I believe this is all evidence you have so badly failed in your duties to the members that your conduct constitutes neglect and indeed you are a major part of the problem as to why the underperformance continues to occur. With that in mind I feel it appropriate you should resign from your board director position with immediate effect and allow a more competent and diligent person to assume your role for the betterment of the football club we both support.
Kind regards
Beyond Blue
Here is one of Andy Gowers, Hawthorn president.
Firstly, I wanted to take this opportunity to personally thank you all for electing me to the role of President of this great club.
Secondly, I want to provide you with an understanding of my vision for the future of our football club.
Like you, Hawthorn has and always will be a huge part of my life. I love this club, and taking on the role of President is something that means a great deal to me. You, our loyal members, are the lifeblood of our club and are the reason we exist. That is why it is such an honour and privilege to be appointed to the position.
It comes at a time when we have a lot of work to do. It is clear we have some challenges ahead of us, but you should take comfort in the knowledge that your Board, the club’s staff and players, are ready for those challenges. I have spent both today and yesterday at Bunjil Bagora and addressed the staff and it’s fair to say there is a lot of excitement about this new era.
During the past few weeks I set out a three-point plan for the club under my leadership.
1. Unity – “A Happy Team at Hawthorn”
2. Family Club – “One for All and All for One”
3. Success – “We Play to Win”
This is about the next chapter in this football club’s famous history. I will bring my own style of leadership and it will include engaging with you all.
Being the President is somewhat surreal, but I see this as a real opportunity to unite our club. There are so many Hawthorn fans who I have spoken to who are no longer members because of their feelings towards the club.
I hope Tuesday night was a turning point that allows us all to reconnect, unify and ensure we are always operating like the Family Club.
In terms of communication moving forward, I plan to give you the information you want and need in a transparent way, because that is what you deserve as a member. A key priority of mine will be holding a summit early in the new year to share opinions and ideas so we can unify as one.
Thank you again for your passion and commitment to our great club.
- Mar 25, 2019
- 12,473
- 25,840
- AFL Club
- Carlton
Don't really know what else anyone was wanting from Sayers. Thought it was a fairly brutal assessment on our year and was happy he called out some parts of the clubs failed season.
But if what we all recognized as a disastrous season had us ending in 8th I think that shows that we've made some significant strides over Sayers, Cook and Voss' tenure. Albeit we need to continue to improve or risk wasting another list rebuild.
Go again in 2025 with a new fitness boss, hopefully some new player changes, maybe some bolstered assistants to help add more layers to our game plan and if it goes up in smoke again then we have fair reason to call for heads.
But if what we all recognized as a disastrous season had us ending in 8th I think that shows that we've made some significant strides over Sayers, Cook and Voss' tenure. Albeit we need to continue to improve or risk wasting another list rebuild.
Go again in 2025 with a new fitness boss, hopefully some new player changes, maybe some bolstered assistants to help add more layers to our game plan and if it goes up in smoke again then we have fair reason to call for heads.
The Old Dark Navy's
Moderator
- Moderator
- #1,267
More compelling in relation to transparency for sure. I don't know if that has been I'm evidence yet or if there has been a need.
It certainly doesn't imply that the fans are caught up as part of that outside noise Sayers talks about.
ideally, Sayers should of left by the normal club governance requirements and then Cook next year. Stagger the transition.
However suspect he wants to be Chairman when win flag.
However suspect he wants to be Chairman when win flag.
- May 1, 2002
- 12,026
- 20,366
- AFL Club
- Carlton
Actually, it's all fluff from the club as a whole these days, so I don't even bother reading or listening.
Action speaks greater than words. At this minute = fail.
Action speaks greater than words. At this minute = fail.
I expect an email from The President after an inglorious finish to our season. I’m not expecting him to lay out in full detail what went wrong. That’s a role for others. I’m looking for change, an epiphany of sorts that can be demonstrated with decisions made before we start the 2025 season.
Sayers has committed in writing to the members to take action.
“Over the coming weeks and months we will address the areas that we’ve fallen short in and be relentless in making sure these areas will meet the standards of excellence that this football club now expects.”
I’m expecting change now and want to see it in action.
Sayers has committed in writing to the members to take action.
“Over the coming weeks and months we will address the areas that we’ve fallen short in and be relentless in making sure these areas will meet the standards of excellence that this football club now expects.”
I’m expecting change now and want to see it in action.
There is a difference between a truth bending self interested white collar consultant or accountant and genuine toughness.
Tough People are staunch, direct & deliver outcomes
Flakes by dictionary definition are unreliable & unconventional and give the appearance of action but actually flounce around delivering results
- Jun 4, 2016
- 13,281
- 40,586
- AFL Club
- Carlton
Ok thanks for the meaningless definitions. Sayers got results and was bloody ruthless doing it. Both internally and externally. He has loads of flaws and detractors. But calling him a flake and soft is just a reflection on someone who has no understanding of who sayers is or the way he operated.
Again I'll reiterate - he may not be suited to running a footy club but he's not even close to a flake. Nor soft. Man lived on endless work hours and ruthless ethic.
