Autopsy The Stats Don’t Lie: VicBIAS By The Numbers - An Empirical Analysis

Do you agree there is inherent umpiring bias toward Vic based teams?

  • I barrack for a Vic based team: Yes, always has been, always will be. Suck it up.

  • I barrack for a Vic based team: Yes. It’s a disgrace. I demand a fairer comp.

  • I barrack for a Vic based team: No. It’s a myth. Stats are the work of the devil.

  • I barrack for a non-Vic based team: Lol. Tell me something I don’t know.

  • I barrack for a non-Vic team: I like to cry about anything to do with the AFL because they are just


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2012 Prelim against the Hawks was a complete robbery. We played badly in the 2017 Grand Final, but were never given a chance to anyway - The umpiring in that first half was shocking.

Anytime we get anywhere near a flag the umpiring makes sure we have one arm tied behind our back.

right oh

97 and 98 the umps were ok were they
 

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This is the dumbest argument. Melbourne have left Victoria 4 times this year. So we get 10 genuine home games vs demons 19 games in Victoria. I'd take 19 games in South Australia vs 10 "genuine home games".
Most AFL fans outside of South Australia think South Australian supporters are low IQ inbred sooks who are the type to move next to an airport and complain
about the noise.

I'd try and stick up for you - but peanuts like mick500 make it way too easy to promote their stereotype.

Melbourne had 12 games at the MCG in 2023
Adelaide had 13 games at Adelaide Oval in 2023

Melbourne travelled interstate 8 times - if including Geelong - 9 times.
Adelaide travelled 9 times - including Geelong.

Melbourne had "home" games against Collingwood, Richmond and Carlton - who all have more fans there.

Seems aside from being an absolute sook - maths is not the strongest suit for simpleton mick500.
 
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What rounds? I'm happy to be corrected.
How about instead of being "happy to be corrected" - you don't post bullshit.

It would have taken less time to look up Melbourne's fixture than it did for you to make up a lie to post on here. The problem that nuffies forget is that the facts a readily available online.

You should probably delete your account - you've been caught out spreading bullshit. I'll post a screen shot every time you mouth off in other threads.
 
Oh noooo. I'm terrified. You're a freak.

Sorry I missed 2 games where you travelled to neutral venues to play unsustainable victorian sides. That's a Victorian problem. Plus I said have travelled out of Victoria, so I don't know why you would add on Geelong. Pretty sure Geelong is in Victoria you moron. And they haven't played Sydney yet hence why it wasn't included. If I was as thick as you I would make threats about you needing to delete your account because you've been caught out as a liar claiming Geelong is an interstate side.

But I'll leave that to weird campaigners like you.
You've been caught spreading lies.

You are either deliberately spreading lies or are so low IQ that you are unable to understand simple information. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume that you are an imbecile. Enjoy the taste of crayons.
 
Took me 5 seconds to look up and I'm not even interested in the answer. The 8th one is this week against Sydney.
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So they've played 5 away games, sold 1 home game and played North Melbourne, another Victorian team that sold a home game to play at a neutral venue because they aren't sustainable. + this week coming up which I didn't include. Sounds about right. 5 + 2 sold games + this week. Oh and Geelong if you are dumb enough to think Geelong isn't in Victoria.
 
The Crows players ya know may want to start winning more games outside of SA and even more on point, actually improve their conversion in front of goal.

The tone was set in round 1, when they basically threw the game away against GWS up there because of embarrassingly inaccuracy in front of goal

But yeah, it's always someone else's fault and VIC BIAS

Umpires also did their best to get the Crows over the line at home vs Collingwood, the most biased display of home town cooking from the umps I have seen in a while.
 
Sorry I missed 2 games where you travelled to neutral venues to play unsustainable victorian sides. That's a Victorian problem. Plus I said have travelled out of Victoria, so I don't know why you would add on Geelong. Pretty sure Geelong is in Victoria you moron. And they haven't played Sydney yet hence why it wasn't included. If I was as thick as you I would make threats about you needing to delete your account because you've been caught out as a liar claiming Geelong is an interstate side.

But I'll leave
You said travelled out of Victoria, then ignored and downplayed 2 games that were outside of Victoria.

Geelong may be IN Victoria, but it is widely accepted by most people with common sense, that they are the ONLY Vic team with a genuine home ground advantage, which generally involves getting a slight advantage with the umpires due to the strong home crowd presence, even against other Vic teams.
If you want to look at genuine home ground advantage to Vic teams against Interstate sides, using Dees as the example, they play 4 genuine home games against interstate sides.
R3 - Swans at MCG
R11 - Freo at MCG
R18 - Lions at MCG
R19 - Crows at MCG

Compared to Adelaide's 11 this year (plus 2 'neutral' games against Port).

I would love to have 11 games with a genuine home ground advantage.
 

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I am going to go with every Grand Final of the 21st century played at the MCG between a Victorian and non-Victorian side

2001 - Brisbane vs Essendon - 22 to 19
2002 - Brisbane vs Collingwood - 16 to 24
2003 - Brisbane vs Collingwood - 13 to 18
2007 - Port Adelaide vs Geelong - 25 to 28
2012 - Sydney vs Hawthorn - 12 to 21
2013 - Fremantle vs Hawthorn - 14 to 15

2014 - Sydney vs Hawthorn - 14 to 14
2015 - West Coast vs Hawthorn - 13 to 14
2016 - Sydney vs Bulldogs - 8 to 20
2017 - Adelaide vs Richmond - 19 to 24
2018 - West Coast to Collingwood - 13 to 20
2019 - GWS to Richmond - 13 to 20

2022 - Sydney vs Geelong - 18 to 17

So of the 13 Grand Finals between Victorian and Non-Victorian clubs at the MCG since the 21st century has begun the Victorian side has won the free kick count 10 times, with the non-Victorian clubs winning it twice, and there being one draw as well.

So the Victorian clubs win the free kick count 76.9% of the Grand Finals and the non-Victorian clubs win it 15.3% of the time.

Edited as I made a mistake with the Sydney/Geelong Grand Final.
 
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So they've played 5 away games, sold 1 home game and played North Melbourne, another Victorian team that sold a home game to play at a neutral venue because they aren't sustainable. + this week coming up which I didn't include. Sounds about right. 5 + 2 sold games + this week. Oh and Geelong if you are dumb enough to think Geelong isn't in Victoria.
You may want to read this post again.

I'll give you a clue, you are calling people dumb if they include Geelong, that's fair enough, but think about where the other games are played, not whether teams sell games or not, remember you said left Vic 4 times.
 
You may want to read this post again.

I'll give you a clue, you are calling people dumb if they include Geelong, that's fair enough, but think about where the other games are played, not whether teams sell games or not, remember you said left Vic 4 times.
Yeah, fair enough. I missed the games that were sold off.
 
How could no flags be a statistical possibility? Had the results in those games been reversed an interstate team still would have won 😂

What about the 15 years before 2006 how many interstate teams won the flag then? 92, 94, 97, 98, 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06 - oh wow looks like a lot of interstate sides winning flags, I guess Vicbias didn't exist between the years 92-2006?

The sooking is hilarious especially when you consider some all time teams have won flags since 2007 - Cats, Hawks and Tigers sharing 11 flags between them.
Royal Commission/Operation Heartland. How many times does this have to be explained?
 
I am going to go with every Grand Final of the 21st century played at the MCG between a Victorian and non-Victorian side

2001 - Brisbane vs Essendon - 22 to 19
2002 - Brisbane vs Collingwood - 16 to 24
2003 - Brisbane vs Collingwood - 13 to 18
2007 - Port Adelaide vs Geelong - 25 to 28
2012 - Sydney vs Hawthorn - 12 to 21
2013 - Fremantle vs Hawthorn - 14 to 15

2014 - Sydney vs Hawthorn - 14 to 14
2015 - West Coast vs Hawthorn - 13 to 14
2016 - Sydney vs Bulldogs - 8 to 20
2017 - Adelaide vs Richmond - 19 to 24
2018 - West Coast to Collingwood - 13 to 20
2019 - GWS to Richmond - 13 to 20

2022 - Sydney vs Geelong - 18 to 17

So of the 13 Grand Finals between Victorian and Non-Victorian clubs at the MCG since the 21st century has begun the Victorian side has won the free kick count 11 times, with the non-Victorian clubs winning it once, and there being one draw as well.

So the Victorian clubs win the free kick count 84.6% of the Grand Finals and the non-Victorian clubs win it 7.7% of the time.
"Winning" the free kick count is a bit disingenuous though, isn't it?
I would say 7 of those counts are even enough that they shouldn't have made any difference to the result.
So 6 could be considered lopsided enough that they MAY have impacted the results, but that does nothing to prove whether or not those free kicks were genuinely there, or how many were missed both ways.
Out of the 6 lopsided counts, the team who lost the free kick count won 3 and lost 3.

The whole argument is pretty inconclusive really.
 
I know my Geography isn't great, but was I sure Geelong is in Victoria.

I guess you learn something every day ;)
I know you're just having a bit of a laugh, but I don't think anyone is claiming Geelong is not in Vic, but I think everyone except maybe Geelong supporters can accept that they are the one Vic team that has a genuine home ground advantage against other Vic teams.
For all intents and purposes, they may as well be counted as an interstate side.

If you asked all Vic team supporters if they'd prefer to play Geelong in Geelong, or any other interstate side at their home venue, I reckon Geelong would be one of the last ones chosen most times.
 

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