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Pies are starting to run out of senior experienced footballers, didn't bode well for Melbourne lets hope the pies suffer the same fate.
 

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#17, the only thing that matters!!!!!
First got to mention in a year we missed finals.

17 is always top priority. Just get us away from the dopers and scum bags, please.
 
Yes but I mean it makes their decision easier to bid for Moore if they know they'll also have another early pick.

Yes, but they don't know they'll have another early pick. They still want Beams to stay and whilst they can guess, they more than likely won't have a clue what trades may eventuate prior to the F/S bidding process.

You're right. But in the knowledge they will get a top 10 pick (most likely) we should bid for Moore because surely they will match it?

I highly doubt that any club would bid if they didn't truly believe Moore was worth selecting at that pick. That's a big bluff to play and could easily lose someone their job.

My guess is at least one club will bid if they believe he's worth it, and Collingwood won't hesitate to match. However the motive for those clubs bidding won't be because it forces the Pies to match it.
 
Geez, after spending 9 kajillion to keep Cloke, everyone else has walked.

3 years ago they carried on like it was Camelot...............plenty of empty seats at the Round Table now.
This is a disgrace by Beams. This comes 18 months after re-signing and putting the pressure publicly on Cloke to re-sign.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-new...-resigns-with-collingwood-20120816-24ahp.html

I dont pretend to know Beams' situation, but geez anything short of like a family member having cancer or something (which happened to a mate of mine recently and flew home as a result) you gotta think he is just getting off a burning ship and thats disgraceful from a Pies perspective. The whole "we gotta take a pay cut to keep it together" like Geelong did to win those flags and then turns round less than 2 seasons later. That deserves a big spotlight on it. Perhaps Buckley should be looked at now?
 
Eddie will be playing hard ball, wouldn't surprise me if he chases an established GC player + a 2nd round pick, looking at th GC list the only players that are from Vic that might make them interested is Dion Prestia, Tom Lynch, Trent Mckenzie & Tom Nicholls.

I don't imagine that GC would give up Lynch even for Beams, Prestia would be a like for like swap so I reckon that could work..

As for Brisbane, it would either be Rockcliffe or Hanley and I don't imagine Brisbane would be in any hurry to lose them.
 

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This is a disgrace by Beams. This comes 18 months after re-signing and putting the pressure publicly on Cloke to re-sign.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-new...-resigns-with-collingwood-20120816-24ahp.html

I dont pretend to know Beams' situation, but geez anything short of like a family member having cancer or something (which happened to a mate of mine recently and flew home as a result) you gotta think he is just getting off a burning ship and thats disgraceful from a Pies perspective. The whole "we gotta take a pay cut to keep it together" like Geelong did to win those flags and then turns round less than 2 seasons later. That deserves a big spotlight on it. Perhaps Buckley should be looked at now?

His dad does have cancer i am pretty sure
 
Not worth anything near that.

26 for Jacksh should get it done

Pick 6 may jusy be a number now but it could be a Yarran or a Bontempelli or a Wines or a Carlisle

Would you throw away a shot at one of those players and 26 for a guy outisde GWS' s best 22, surplus to their needs, out of contrsct and wanting to come home, along with a couple of speculative 2nd rounders?

The thought I always have is "would you pick the guy if he was on offer at 6" in my mind not Jaksch ..... but could be part of a Shiels or Mitchell deal . I think a Sheils deal could be done - he is dynamite and grew up a carlton supporter (which I honestly believe adds a bit of emotional buy in) ... he comes off contract next year for GWS and unless they lock him up people will come looking and they will not do as well - of course if they don't play this time lets hope we are one of the clubs looking. Also is Mitchell was on offer at 6 you would probably take him.
 
I hope Gold Coast don't get Beams and Malceski. It'll make any Mitchell and Jaksch trade look amateur.

GC needs older players as does Bris needs a gun mid....maybe for Carlton's needs the hypotetical Mitchelll / Jaksch just as good?
 
GC needs older players as does Bris needs a gun mid....maybe for Carlton's needs the hypotetical Mitchelll / Jaksch just as good?

Possibly but we'd probably have to give up more than Gold Coast (Malceski FA/only have Bris to compete with for Beams). I'm more worried about not being able to beat them for the next 10 years.
 
Brisbane will give up pick 4 I reckon. Only thing that gets it done. Beams and Ryder for picks 4 and 23 is the exact opposite of the normal Brisbane trade in that they kill the pig. Big time.
 
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