The US Presidential Election Thread

Who wins the election.

  • Trump

    Votes: 16 34.0%
  • Harris

    Votes: 15 31.9%
  • Who Knows

    Votes: 4 8.5%
  • Who Cares

    Votes: 12 25.5%

  • Total voters
    47
  • Poll closed .

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It got a bit like the Essendon doping threads where doxxing and personal threats etc started to be deployed.

As for Ukraine, they're cooked. Their lines have all but collapsed in the east and a few dozen missiles won't change that.

Fwiw I thought the justification was the North Koreans nobody has actually seen on the battlefield, not the most recent Russian missile/drone attack.

Those Russian barrages will be repeated all through winter, they've been stockpiling.

As I said before, Putin is using the same tactic he did in Syria over the 2015/16 transition period.

He's shaping the situation so that whatever "deal" Trump proposes is enormously in Russia's favour.

I also reckon he'll get Trump to Moscow to sign the agreement. With all the optics that entails.
I've thought for a while it's pretty much headed for an East/West Germany sort of thing with a demilitarised zone in-between. Kiev gets to join the EU and the Donbas down to Crimea ends up like Republic of Dagestan, where the highest form of government lies with the state and not Moscow.
I think the Kiev NATO membership will dangled as a carrot but ultimately kicked down the road for another couple of decades for someone else to sort out.
 
Why cant we do this on the devils chessboard anymore? Seems more appropriate with the long range missiles go ahead
What's wrong with discussing it on the SRP thread where there are actual moderators?
 
It's not derailing the thread and is entirely on topic. Trump wants to end the war and is proposing peace plans ahead of the inauguration and the current regime have just lit those on fire.
Is there a concept of a peace plan or is it that Don says to Vlad just roll the tanks in mate?
 

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The abusive pro/tolerant of Nazis insane pro Ukrainian trolls who ruin any discussion that isn't psychotically SLAVA UKRAINI

The people who told me they don't care about Ukranian troops wearing Dirlewanger Brigade insignia because he's just "some old Nazi dude".

If you wish to associate with those kinds, you go for it.

I don't break bread with Nazis, hence also deleting my Twitter account

We could easily have a Devils Chessboard thread on here again if we all approached it in the right way.

Twitter is full on now. Instead of deleting your account you should have just changed your settings so you only see stuff from people you follow.

It’s still the first place that all news drops.
 
This feels the same as when Russia were building up troops on the Ukrainian border and everyone was like, nah it’s just a flex…


For sure a tactical nuke will come out now. Putin will look soft if there is no retaliation and russia in general are dying to test them out
 
This feels the same as when Russia were building up troops on the Ukrainian border and everyone was like, nah it’s just a flex…


go back to the 3rd post of the old chessboard thread..
this was trumps solution to the Putins and Kims first time around.


 
For sure a tactical nuke will come out now. Putin will look soft if there is no retaliation and russia in general are dying to test them out

Madness. It won’t be just one strike, there will be strikes against Russia in retaliation and that will trigger the end.

Annie Jacobsens book nuclear war goes into this. While the book is fiction, it’s based on many interviews with high ranking military officers who have been involved in these decisions.
 
Madness. It won’t be just one strike, there will be strikes against Russia in retaliation and that will trigger the end.

Annie Jacobsens book nuclear war goes into this. While the book is fiction, it’s based on many interviews with high ranking military officers who have been involved in these decisions.
Daniel Ellsberg wrote a book called the doomsday machine.
he was the original pentagon leaker, he goes through how the decision making process and how in the event of nuclear war the firing of weapons was/is given to the Admirals and Generals on the ground, that way even if they strike the WH there's a bunch of people who can respond.

He has had many conversations with his Russian counterparts since the cold war and basically came to the conclusion they have the same process in place. all the old timers believe these current lot are nuts/tv generals, they're desperate for the name in history books.
 
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