The US Presidential Election Thread

[Bojan KantKick]

You're exactly the type of person who would have picketed against de-segregating schools during the Civil Rights period.

Disgusting comment. Your true colours are showing.

 

[Chadwiko]

Disgusting comment. Your true colours are showing.

What's "disgusting" is discrimination against trans people.

 

[DesertRoo]

Really?

Alright, let's do a quick check-in on the issues then? Five easy questions.

Simple yes or no answers will suffice;

1. Are trans women 'women', and are trans men 'men'?
2. Are vaccinations safe?
3. Was Russia justified to invade Ukraine?
4. Are Australia's gun control laws good?
5. Was Biden a better President than Trump?

Do you see yourself as anti-establishment or establishment?

 

[DesertRoo]

Disgusting comment. Your true colours are showing.

Yeah, the guy has gone off the deep end, he’s throwing around insults trying to suck people in.

 

[Chadwiko]

Do you see yourself as anti-establishment or establishment?

No, no.

You answer my questions first please.

They're very straight forward and uncomplicated.

 

[DesertRoo]

No, no.

You answer my questions first please.

They're very straight forward and uncomplicated.

Difference between my yourself and I, is I don’t try and push my views on anyone, especially from a position of power.

You on the other hand, don’t listen to people and call them names.

 

[Del191229]

Just going to go ahead and pre-emptively post this article here, which I find particularly relevant.

The Warlord might recognise the platform;

Why have authoritarianism and libertarianism merged? A political psychologist on ‘the vulnerability of the modern self’

It is now not uncommon to find people supporting leaders like Donald Trump while insisting the state refrains from intervening in their lives.

theconversation.com

Really good piece, thanks for posting.

(Even the lede and conclusion are awful and need to be completely reworked.)

 

[Chadwiko]

Difference between my yourself and I, is I don’t try and push my views on anyone, especially from a position of power.

You on the other hand, don’t listen to people and call them names.

I'm not trying to 'push' my views on anyone. You're allowed to believe what ever you want, and I'm allowed to hold my own opinions about your beliefs.

You're the one claiming you don't have authoritarian tendencies/views, and I've asked you to provide some simple responses about your positions on common issues to clarify.

If you don't want to answer, that's your perogative. But don't then turn around and have a sook when people like me have opinions that you consistently demonstrate authoritarian traits.

 

[Chadwiko]

Really good piece, thanks for posting.

(Even the lede and conclusion are awful and need to be completely reworked.)

Sorry, did you typo the addendum in the brackets, or was the first line sarcastic?

 

[Dan]

Really?

Alright, let's do a quick check-in on the issues then? Five easy questions.

Simple yes or no answers will suffice;

1. Are trans women 'women', and are trans men 'men'?
2. Are vaccinations safe?
3. Was Russia justified to invade Ukraine?
4. Are Australia's gun control laws good?
5. Was Biden a better President than Trump?

No
Yes
No
Yes
No

Did I pass?

 

[Del191229]

Sorry, did you typo the addendum in the brackets, or was the first line sarcastic?

Nah, it's a really good piece, the lede and tail just need a rewrite to be a bit more snappy is all.

Especially that first sentence.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Be interesting to hear from every other poster.
Have I ever given off the vibes of being an authoritarian?
I have I ever given off the vibes for segregation?
Have I ever given off the vibes to care about someones sex/sexuality?
Care about anyones race/religion?
Have I ever cared who people voted for?

Come back to reality Chad

You have a different opinion to chad. That is not allowed in his world.

 

[DesertRoo]

I'm not trying to 'push' my views on anyone. You're allowed to believe what ever you want, and I'm allowed to hold my own opinions about your beliefs.

You're the one claiming you don't have authoritarian tendencies/views, and I've asked you to provide some simple responses about your positions on common issues to clarify.

If you don't want to answer, that's your perogative. But don't then turn around and have a sook when people like me have opinions that you consistently demonstrate authoritarian traits.

Lol,
Nah, I didn’t answer because it’s stupid, not because of some righteous reasons in your head.
And yeah you try to push your views on people all the time and call them names when they think differently from you. Most bigoted person posting.
I mean wtf does aust gun control have to do with anything, ffs it’s a non issue, if they held a referendum tomorrow, I’d suspect it’s probably 80% of the population Would vote to keep the same or go stronger. The only people you’d have to watch is dodgy politicians watering down laws because of backroom deals.

FYI I worked in a highly lgbt field for my working life, I seen it all in regards to transitioning, from multi personality on weekends, or just drag as you so bluntly put it, right through to gender assignment and people who decided to transition back again. Bathrooms werent really an issue, people just choose what ever they were comfortable, from mens womens and disabled. Never bothered me, never bothered them.
But guess what, this debate isn’t for me, I can’t speak for either a vulnerable women nor the trans community. I can’t play judge, jury or executioner, all I can do is listen and stay out of it.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Yeah, the guy has gone off the deep end, he’s throwing around insults trying to suck people in.

He's race baiting and trying to find an equivalence between the civil rights movement and rights for trans people. It's disgraceful.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

What's "disgusting" is discrimination against trans people.

Nobody in this thread is discriminating against trans people. You cannot take away the rights of women to safe spaces and call people transphobic if they disagree with you. Well you can but you'll be laughed at. Find another solution.

 

[DesertRoo]

He's race baiting and trying to find an equivalence between the civil rights movement and rights for trans people. It's disgraceful.

Yeah anybody who’s spent time playing with Chad knows this..

Guilt by association is main go to..

 

[Chadwiko]

Tulsi Gabbard’s Ties to Russia Are Far More Dangerous Than You Realize, Experts Say

Experts are sounding alarms over Tulsi Gabbard's history of pro-Kremlin rhetoric and foreign policy decisions, with one prominent analyst warning that her potential appointment as Director of National Intelligence (DNI) would pose a direct threat to U.S. security.

dailyboulder.com

 

[Chadwiko]

He's race baiting and trying to find an equivalence between the civil rights movement and rights for trans people. It's disgraceful.

No, it's accurate.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

No, it's accurate.

It's your view and it is deranged.

 

[Dan]

It's your view and it is deranged.

He’s becoming teffy like.

 

[Dan]

I’m Batman

 

[Chadwiko]

It's your view and it is deranged.

It's not just my view. It's a view prevalent among the black community, and the LGBTIQA+ community.

Moreover, how stupid do you have to be to think that attempts at limiting or denying a demographic of people's freedoms is the right thing to do? There's never been an instance in human history where that's worked out in the long run.

 

[Chadwiko]

This is from nearly ten years ago, by the way. For anyone who wants to claim that this is a 'new' issue or whatever.

Good read, though.

The Anti-Trans Bathroom Nightmare Has Its Roots in Racial Segregation

An ad that aired frequently in Houston this past month depicted a man accosting a young girl in a bathroom stall. Its purpose was to convince voters...

slate.com

 

[Chadwiko]

It would be a lot easier if you folks trying to clutch your pearls with hysterical strawman arguments about "letting your daughter into a change room with a guy hanging dong!" just straight up admitted that you don't like trans people.

 

[Chadwiko]

He’s becoming teffy like.

Actually Teffy is lock step on the same page with you nuffies; he's vehemently anti-trans.

Nice try though!