F1 The Wash Up - Previous 2024 Race Weekends

[Father Jack]

Haven't watched yet but note Colapinto in the points and Albon nowhere to be found.
He was probably begging Williams to keep Sargeant all this time. Bloke is a hack.

Albon might have picked up some damage early in the race but I'm not 100% sure about that

 

[skam85]

110 %. F1 really needs to find a way to end the 'pay driver' concept if it wants credibility as a sport. Stroll is a classic example of this.

Niki Lauda was a pay driver.

 

[skam85]

Perez's career is done. If Lawson drives the rest of the season like he did in Austin, there's no doubt in my mind he'll be Max's teammate.

Perez won't go to VCARB so it will be Tsunoda and down to whether Red Bull take a punt on Hadjar (who is beating all the guys currently being promoted or already promoted to F1 from this year's F2 grid) or they will pay out Williams for Colapinto I reckon.

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

Lawson doing well first race in also confirms that Danny Ric is washed as an F1 driver. It wasnt the car holding him back.

 

[DamoESP]

Excellent detailed skypad analysis by Anthony Davidson of that last takeover move on lap 52 by Norris on Verstappen - very clear and fair assessment of why that overtake move was deemed unacceptable by the stewards, with Norris being marginally behind Max as he turn into the apex. (under FIA rules, the overtaker must have a 'significant' part of their car ahead by the time they get to the apx of the corner).

Norris continuing to hang on to the outside of that corner to complete the overtake is what forced him outside track limits - contrary to what Norris and Stela said - as Max, being the lead car as they entered that corner, was entitled to take the wide exit. Yes, both cars were outside track limits at the exit of that corner but Lando was overtaking a car that was outside the tracks limits - that's the difference here.

I'd glad we don't have old mate Chandhok at this race - his bias would have claimed that the stewards were wrong in handing out the penalty to Lando.

Like clockwork......

 

[skam85]

Like clockwork......

Brad Philpot would just about have to be the worst person on twitter with his F1 opinions. He's one of those salty brits that has a voodoo doll of Max and Michael Masi, AD2021 lives rent free with him almost three years on.

 

[Gunf]

Like clockwork......

He is by far my least favourite person involved with commentary

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

inb4 "you're an amateur hack who's never going to race anything more powerful than an excel" but if Lando braked earlier than Max and had more grip on better tyres it probably wasn't his best call to commit to going around him on the outside instead of doing the switchback. Max would have gone off anyway and wouldn't have been able to defend without falling afoul of leaving the track and gaining and advantage himself.

 

[Gunf]

inb4 "you're an amateur hack who's never going to race anything more powerful than an excel" but if Lando braked earlier than Max and had more grip on better tyres it probably wasn't his best call to commit to going around him on the outside instead of doing the switchback. Max would have gone off anyway and wouldn't have been able to defend without falling afoul of leaving the track and gaining and advantage himself.

This is exactly what he should have tried but for some unknown reason he didn't he just kept doing the same thing lap after lap expecting something different.

 

[Duck Farmer]

Was the most nondescript race by Oscar in recent memory. Basically, plod around in 5th for the whole race with nothing eventful happening.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

It won't happen because motorsport is ridiculously expensive. The vast majority of drivers in come from quite well-off families who gave them big financial backing, or their families had friends in high places that could give them that backing. Especially in Australia where all the drivers have to move halfway around the world to Europe to get noticed. A lot of talented drivers don't make it simply because they don't have the sponsorship.

Danny Ric himself said everyone in the paddock is a pay driver with "daddy's money" to some extent, it's just often less blatant than Stroll.

I get it but if F1 wants respect in the wider world they need to change that. I'm not sure exactly how but you need to have a central pool of funding that drivers can access so in effect it becomes a salary cap like other major sports. And you need to limit the number and $ value of sponsors that teams are allowed to get from drivers. That way you have young drivers getting there on merit not because of how rich or poor their parents are.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

To fix this though you'd need to remove a lot of money from both F1 and motorsport in general. All of the junior categories appear to be built around paying your way into a seat, even kids karting comps.

I agree but part of the solution is cost caps. Cap significantly what teams can spend (yes this may impact quality but ifs a fair trade off for better equity) and stop teams selling seats for money. It definitely needs to be done ar the junior level as much as the top level.

 

[Cromulant]

I get it but if F1 wants respect in the wider world they need to change that. I'm not sure exactly how but you need to have a central pool of funding that drivers can access so in effect it becomes a salary cap like other major sports. And you need to limit the number and $ value of sponsors that teams are allowed to get from drivers. That way you have young drivers getting there on merit not because of how rich or poor their parents are.

F1 is as popular as its ever been, I don't think they're too worried about respect in the wider world.

People have and will always pay their way, you won't change that in any level of motorsport ever. Even at club level people win because they've got more money.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

 

[Bradesmaen]

Bearman is an idiot driver

 

[happy_eagle]

Bearman is an idiot driver

Albon more to blame there than Ollie I think ?

 

[gaskin]

Albon more to blame there than Ollie I think ?

My thoughts as well unless Ollie was driving unnecessarily slow on the racing line but it looked like he was off the racing line to me.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Albon more to blame there than Ollie I think ?

Nah, Bearman was slow to get off the racing line. Not the first accident he'll cause

 

[Cromulant]

Piastri out in Q1 with Perez

 

[Duck Farmer]

Disaster for Piastri.

 

[Shifty1]

FFS Oscar! Needs to improve his qualifying performance. Completely ****ed this up.

 

[Gak Attack]

Shocker by Piastri. Blew all 3 laps.

 

[Shifty1]

A ****ing second slower than FP3.

 

[Cromulant]

Shocker by Piastri. Blew all 3 laps.

Don't think he blew the last one, he just had nothing left.

Poor effort all the same

 

[Duck Farmer]

Could've potentially pitted and refuelled instead of staying out for another lap?